For entries of the Meltdown series before December 2010, visit www.keithhunt.com/meltdown.html.
Tuesday, September 2, 2014
TARA ANSWER TO ME...MY RESPONSE
Now to Keith: You said you weren't intending to attack my personal character and that you do not believe I'm different in my moral character and as a wife, mother, etc. But is that not what you immediately insinuated when you first discovered my apostasy? Did you not immediately email me with a message that you were SHOCKED (understandable) and then say that you hoped I would not do anything to your site, blog, etc. since I know your passwords? That was offensive to me. I'm not trustworthy because the bible tells me so. I'm trustworthy, because that's just who I am and who I want to be. I've got the ability to form long-lasting and deep friendships and other social bonds because of my honesty and trustworthiness. I can live guilt-free, so therefore I can be happy with myself, too, in addition to living happily in my relationships with others. Furthermore, concerning access to your various accounts, I offered, in reply, to walk you through step-by-step how to change your passwords so that you could rest easy, even though I have no intention of logging into your accounts. Perhaps I took it too harshly, but I will honestly say I found it quite appalling. I then immediately wondered if that is the kind of thing you would have done, if it was turned the other way. It seemed you were using your own mindset to judge mine. I'm not sure what you would do in that situation, or not, but I will say that the other person who hardcore rejected me as a friend along with you really did a similar thing years ago. We ran a website community together with equal administration duties. Her short temper fused toward me, and she deleted everyone's content, including things that were dearly important to me (namely an entire pregnancy journal that I hadn't saved elsewhere). Although that hurt, I forgave her. I easily forgive others. We've all done stupid or ugly things. There are plenty of non-trustworthy Christians. My being a Christian or not shouldn't determine my trustworthiness. ANSWER: YES I WAS CONCERNED YOU WOULD MESS WITH MY ACCOUNTS. THOUGH I KNEW YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO BE MORAL IN LIFE, AS A WIFE, MOTHER, CHILD RAISER AND ALL THAT, I DID NOT KNOW WHAT DEPTH SATAN HAD GOT YOU IN REGARDS RELIGION, AND WHAT HE MIGHT LEAD YOU TO DO. NOW YOU'LL PROBABLY DISMISS THIS WITH THE WAVE OF YOUR HAND, AND POOHOO IT. BUT WITH YOUR DEDUCTING MIND, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO REASON THAT RELIGIOUS PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WOULD THINK THIS WAY, HENCE YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SHOCKED OR SURPRISED AT ALL, AT MY THOUGHTS. WE ARE NO LONGER ON THE SAME WAVE LENGTH. YOU SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO DUDUCE THAT OUR FRIENDSHIP WAS PURELY IN THE CONTEXT OF "RELIGIOUS FAITH" FROM THE START WHEN YOU CONTACTED ME IN A CONTEXT OF "CHRISTIAN RELIGION" - YOU CONTACTED ME, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. OUR FRIENDSHIP WAS THUS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE "TRUE CHURCH OF GOD." NOW THAT CONTEXT IS NOT THERE. YOU SHOULD BE WISE ENOUGH TO HAVE READ THE NEW TESTAMENT ENOUGH [THEN AGAIN MAYBE YOU DID NOT] TO KNOW THE APOSTLE PAUL COULD NOT CONTINUE FRIENDSHIPS WITH THOSE WHO TURNED FROM "THE FAITH" - OF COURSE NOW YOU MAY LAUGH AND SCOFF AT THAT, BUT IF YOU READ ALL THAT PAUL WROTE YOU WILL FIND THOSE PASSAGES, EVEN THOUGH YOU WILL DISMISS THEM AND MAY THINK PAUL WAS NUTS OR VERY HARD AND UNKIND, WHICH TO YOU WILL ADD FURTHER PROOF THE BIBLE IS TO BE IGNORED AND PUT ON THE TRASH PILE. BUT THE FACT IS PAUL WAS LIKE THAT WITHIN A RELIGIOUS TRUE CHURCH OF GOD CONTEXT. I ALSO MUST FOLLOW PAUL. NOW WITH YOUR DEDUCTING MIND, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEDUCT I WOULD DO AS PAUL DID. There are times in the past where I've become extremely irritated with you, but every time I've overlooked it. I still loved you, and I went to special measures to prevent frustration. One of those things I already mentioned, namely unsubbing from your blog at a time in the past, because there were too many health-based commentaries you made that drove me up the wall, because it was in error or something else. ANSWER: MOST OF MY HEALTH BLOGS ARE FROM DR. MERCOLA OR HEALTH BOOKS I HAVE BOUGHT AND FOUND VERY GOOD KNOWLEDGE IN THEM. THE PROOF OF THE PIE IS IN THE EATING. TELL YOU WHAT, IF THIS AGE GOES ON UNTIL YOU ARE 72, SEE IF YOU LOOK AS HEALTHY AND FIT AS I AM, OR EVEN BE AS HEALTHY AS I AM BY THAT AGE. NOW YOU'LL BE OF COURSE SAYING I'M VAIN, AND ONCE MORE JUST WAVE IT OFF AS JUST SO MUCH TALK. BUT THE FACT IS YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN AND NATHAN HAVE MANY HEALTH PROBLEMS IN YOUR RELATIVELY YOUNG YEARS. SO SOMETHING IS AMISS EVEN YOU WAVE YOUR HAND AND DISMISS WHAT I JUST STATED. THE FACT IS I HAVE SINCE A YOUNG TEEN BEEN FOLLOWING THE CHARLES ATLAS HEALTH AND STRENGTH COURSE, AND HAVE RETAINED MY HEALTH AND VITALITY. SO IF YOU HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED BY MY BLOGS ON HEALTH, MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK DEEPER INTO YOUR MIND-SET AND DEDUCT WHY. In time I decided to subscribe again, because I felt that I could manage to delete the ones I wanted from the get-go and only open the ones I thought were worth reading. And it was working quite well. I also had my reasons to stop reading so much on your website. Of course it wasn't just your website. I have avoided all COG ministers' articles and sermons. Some of the things I listened to when attending UCG drove me up the wall, especially knowing that most listeners just soak it up unquestionably. I've never seen anything good come from that. Quite the contrary. It's easy, when you see one person teach a lot of things that seem to make good sense, to start idolizing and putting to much trust in that person. Then the person becomes proud and thinks too highly of himself. I have concluded that some men do not even realize it. They do not even see it in themselves. ANSWER: HUMMMM..... GUESS THAT IS WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF ME ALL ALONG AND I HAD NO IDEA. I HAD NO IDEA I WAS LUMPED IN WITH THE RUN-OF-THE-MILL COG MINISTERS IN YOUR EYES AND MIND. BUT NOW YOU MAKE IT PLAIN WHERE I STOOD FOR YOU. IT WAS YOU WHO CONTACTED ME YEARS AGO, AND YOU MADE IT APPEAR TO ME YOU THOUGHT WE WERE PRETTY WELL ON THE SAME GROUND THEOLOGICALLY. YOU APPEARED TO ME IN WORD AND DEED [WHEN WITH YOU FOR TWO FEAST OF TABERNACLES] THAT WE WERE ON THE SAME GROUND THEOLOGICALLY; EVEN TO THE POINT I WAS SO CONVINCED I NAMED YOU AS A CO-WORKER WITH ME IN GOD'S WORK. AH WELL AS THEY SAY WE LIVE AND LEARN, NOT ALL IS AT IT APPEARS. And just about all of us who have been a part of a COG mindset have thought of ourselves as too special. Oh, that God actually chose us out of everyone, that he called and chose us. And look at all those blind ones around us. We've got the truth, and they don't. Breaking away from that has only made me a better person. I no longer think I'm doing better theologically than my family and friends who do not believe that way. And poisonous relations cut me off. I didn't have to sit down and analyze who was not a good friend. They made the decisions. It opened my eyes all the more to how cultish and toxic and unforgiving and hateful the fruit of the bible is. ANSWER: ONCE MORE THIS MAKES IT VERY PLAIN AS TO WHAT YOU THINK OF THE BIBLE NOW, AND HOW IN YOUR MIND AT PRESENT YOU THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY TRYING TO FOLLOW THE BIBLE, ARE IN THEIR FRUITS.....CULTISH, TOXIC, UNFORGIVING, HATEFUL. THIS ALL JUST REALLY MAKES JESUS' WORD COME TO LIFE, THAT HIS TRUE FOLLOWERS WOULD BE ACCUSED OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS, EVEN AS THE ENEMY, AND SOME IN KILLING THEM WOULD THINK THEY DID GOD SERVICE. IN YOUR CASE AS NOT IN A GOD CONTEXT, YOU CLASSIFY US AS CULTISH, TOXIC, UNFORGIVING AND HATEFUL, COMPARED TO ONES WHO LIVE WITHOUT THE BIBLE AND CHRIST IN THEIR LIFE. BECAUSE WE CANNOT ACCEPT YOUR REJECTION OF THE BIBLE AND JESUS AS SAVIOR, WE ARE NOW THE BAD GUYS AND GALS, WHILE THE BIBLE REJECTORS ARE YOUR FRIENDS AND THE LOVING PEOPLE. BECAUSE WE BIBLE BELIEVERS REJECT YOUR REJECTION OF THE BIBLE AND CHRIST, AND CANNOT WALK WITH YOU [THE BIBLE SAYS, CAN TWO WALK TOGETHER UNLESS THEY AGREE, WHICH YOU WILL LAUGHT AT NOW] WE ARE THE NOW TOXIC ONES, THE HATEFUL ONES, THE CULTISH ONES. AND SO INDEED IT WILL BE IN THE LAST DAYS. WE TRUE CHRISTIANS WILL BE THE HATED ONES, EVEN THE ONES TO BE PUT TO DEATH, AS IT HAS BEEN IN TIMES GONE BY. YES HISTORY DOES REPEAT ITSELF. The ones unharmed and uninfluenced, or mildly so, are the ones who are good people, no matter what. One person told me I was the truest friend she'd ever had, but in the same breath told me she couldn't dare associate with me, anymore, that she needed "Godly women" as friends. Well, she needs "godly" something, because she sure didn't treat me so, unless the "godly" she meant was the likeness of an evil god. I would have stood by her side the remaining years of her life, just as I have been doing, just the same. I would have lovingly encouraged her and been there for her. I would have been true to the end. But that wasn't good enough, apparently. Without the "Christian" label, without the "belief," I'm as good as the shit in her commode. I wonder whether the Christian-label friends she will try to find will ever be as true as I still would have been to her. I wonder whether they will be as good an influence to her. I've got enough experience and observation to know that the Christian label won't be a determining factor. I was hurt by the cruelty I incurred. And STILL (maybe I'm stupid) I would forgive her if she came to me. And STILL I would be her true friend. Because that's who I am. In the meantime, I do still have friends who love me. They don't all agree with me, but they love me all the same. And that is truly more worthy than anyone who judges based on religious beliefs. ANSWER: I HAVE A FRIEND CALLED ALLEN, HE IS "RELIGIOUS" BUT OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PROTESTANT FAITH. I HAVE A FRIEND DIANE, IN THE HORSE WORLD, AND WORK FOR HER IN THE SUMMER HORSE CAMP, SHE IS IF ANYTHING ROMAN CATHOLIC, SHE DOES BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD, TAUGHT IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR 35 YEARS. THESE TWO PERSONS ENTERED BY LIFE NOT THROUGH RELIGION; THE BIBLE AND CHRISTIAN RELIGION WAS NOT FROM THE START IN THE PICTURE OF OUR FRIENDSHIP. WITH NEITHER DO I GET INTO ANY DEEP THEOLOGICAL TALK; OUR FRIENDSHIP IS NOT BASED ON CHRISTIANITY PER SE. SO OUIR FRIENDSHIP CONTINUES VERY NICELY INDEED. YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ENTERED MY LIFE BY YOU CONTACTING ME AND IT WAS TO DO FROM THE START WITH "CHRISTIAN RELIGION." OUR FRIENDSHIP WAS BASED UPON SEEKING AND BEING IN THE END TIME TRUE CHURCH OF GOD. OUR FRIENDSHIP INCREASED UNDER THAT GROUND SO DEEPLY I THOUGHT IN THE CORRECT FOUNDATION OF CHRISTIANITY, THAT I OPENLY TOLD EVERYONE I CONSIDERED YOU TO BE A CO-WORKER WITH ME IN THE CHRISTIAN GOSPEL, AND IN THE TRUE CHURCH OF GOD. ONCE MORE WE ARE BACK TO PAUL AND THE CONTEXT OF THE TRUE CHURCH OF GOD. WHEN PAUL SAW SOMEONE LEAVE "THE FAITH" - ESPECIALLY IF A TEACHER IN THE BODY OF CHRIST, HE DID WHAT IS WRITTEN IN HIS LETTERS [IF YOU HAVE EVER READ THOSE PARTS] TOWARDS THOSE PERSONS, WHICH I HAVE EXPOUNDED ALREADY A NUMBER OF TIMES. PAUL COULD NOT CONTINUE HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH THEM. HE HAD TO HAND THEM OVER TO SATAN [WHICH YES YOU'LL LAUGH AT NOW] AND PRAY THEY WOULD COME TO REPENTANCE. I HAVE TO FOLLOW PAUL IN THIS MATTER WITH YOURSELF. Also, I thought I'd explained how it worked to you in the past, but perhaps I'm mistaken: You cannot judge by "hits" or "page views" or "visits" how many people are reading your articles daily. Every file that downloads on a page counts as a hit. One unique visitor can count as several hits on just one page, depending on how many images and other files, in addition to the html file itself, is on the page. I can't remember for certain whether I said something to you in the past or not, but I do know that you publicly stated numbers before, and I saw your stats myself in your file manager, and you were not going by unique visitors. According to the following site (Stat Brain, if I remember correctly), it's estimated that your site gets around 984 unique visitors amonth(average of 33/day). Not 1,400+ daily. Then you've got to take into account there are many who land on a page, and it's not what they're looking for, or it may be one of the many books of others you've scanned to your site, rather than any theological article. The majority of the 900+ average visitors each month are not there because they're wanting to stay there and read something. ANSWER: I GO TO "UNIQUE VISITORS" ON MY SERVER AND THEY SHOW AND HAVE SHOWN FOR A FEW YEARS NOW THAT MY UNIQUE VISITORS DAILY ARE ANYWHERE FROM 1,000 TO 4,000. NOW HOW ALL THIS BREAKS DOWN I DO NOT KNOW. HOW THEY FIGURE IT ALL I DO NOT KNOW. I HAVE JUST REPORTED AT TIMES WHAT THE UNIQUE VISITOR STATS ON MY SERVER GIVE. IT DOES NOT MATTER IN THE END. I DO HAVE PEOPLE READING AND USING MY WEBSITE. I DO HAVE PEOPLE SERVED BY MY WEBSITE. I DO WORK WITH PASTORS IN INDIA. I DO KNOW EVANGELIST MANASSEH ENCOURAGES HIS MAINLY SUNDAY OBSERVES TO USE MY WEBSITE. HE TELLS ME MANY OF THEM ARE SO DOING. I CERTAINLY KNOW MY WEBSITE IS NOT GOING TO SHAKE THE EARTH, OR TURN THE WOLRD UPSIDE DOWN, AS THE FIRST APOSTLES DID, AS ONE SECULAR LEADER SAID THEY DID. BUT IT IS REACHING SOME, THOSE THAT GOD WANTS IT TO REACH, AS JESUS THE HEAD OF HIS CHURCH WANTS IT TO REACH. THE FLOCK OF GOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE "LITTLE FLOCK" THE "SALT OF THE EARTH" JUST SPRINKLED HERE AND THERE. MY WEBSITE IS APPRECIATED BY THOSE WHOM GOD LEADS TO IT. BE IT 10 PEOPLE A YEAR THAT COME TO CHRIST AND TRUE SALVATION THROUGH IT OR 10,000 - THAT IS MY GOD'S DOING. OBVIOUSLY ACCORDING TO YOU "STATS BRAIN" AND MY SERVER UNDER THEIR "UNIQUE VISITORS" STATS HAVE DIFFERENT WHATEVERS, FOR MY SERVER UNDER "UNIQUE VISITORS" FOR YESTERDAY AND TODAY HAVE OVER 2,000 FOR EACH DAY. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS: GOD USES MY WEBSITE ACCORDING TO HIS DESIRE, AND ACCORDING TO HIS WILL. YES I DO REGULARLY PRAY TO HIM TO SO USE IT, TO LEAD OTHERS TO IT WHO HE IS CALLING, AND TO USE IT ACCORDING TO HIS WILL. WELL YOU HAVE REVEALED YOURSELF TO ME, IN WAYS I HAD NO IDEA WERE GOING ON IN YOUR MIND TOWARDS ME, I GUESS IN THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS ESPECIALLY. I WILL CONTINUE TO TRY AND SHOW ON MY WEBSITE THE BIBLE IS INSPIRED, AND DOES NOT CONTRADICT ITSELF. I WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW FROM PhD SCIENTISTS IN VARIOUS SCIENCES, THAT GOD DOES EXIST, THAT THERE IS A MASTER MIND, A GREAT DESIGNER BEHIND EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE. NOW ONCE MORE I SADLY HAVE TO SAY ALL THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT YOU AS ONE OF MY CO-WORKERS, AS SADLY YOU HAVE REJECTED THE BIBLE, JESUS AS SAVIOR, AND THE SUPREME GOD IN THE UNIVERSE. ..........