Monday, October 26, 2026

VEGETARIANISM -- GOD'S IDEAL DIET ???

 

Vegetarianism - God's ideal diet?

What did the Lord teach to Adam and Eve?

                                                    by

                                             Keith Hunt



     There  are  those  who  are  vegetarians  because  they see
that our animals  are  polluted  from  man  made  "shots"  of 
this  or  that substance.  They  are  well aware that most
commercial meats are not anywhere  as  wholesome  as  they  used
to be 50 years ago and more.
     These  people  decide  to  become vegetarians from a modern
"health" viewpoint,  and if they can not obtain natural "organic"
meats they will eat no meat. I admit I am one of them, and eat
very very little meat unless I can obtain "organic" meat.
     But  there  are  thousands of "religious" vegetarians who
are non meat  eaters  BECAUSE they think the word of God teaches
that it was the Lord's original plan for mankind to eat only
fruits,seeds,grains,and nuts.
     No better illustration of this teaching and belief can be
found than in the adult Sabbath school lessons of Jan/Feb/March
l993, published by the Seventh Day Adventist Church:

DIVINE DIET(GEN.1:29;3:18).

     "What  did God originally intend for us to eat? Gen.1:29.
What did He add after the fall? Gen.3:18. Before  they  sinned,
Adam and  Eve ate fruits, seeds, grains, and nuts.......When  did
God finally give His consent for people to eat meat, and why?
Gen.9:1-3. What restrictions did God place on eating meat?
Gen.7:2. Think  about it: Why does it make sense now more than
ever to return to God's original diet......"

     The  scripture  that  religious  vegetarians  use  to 
support their argument that God's original plan was to have
humans eat only no meat foods, is Genesis 1:29.
     We shall see that when you take the WHOLE written word of
God, when  you  do as Jesus said we should do, and that is "Man
shall not live  by  bread  alone, but by every word that
proceedeth out of the mouth  of  God"(Mat.4:4)  - when that is
followed we shall see that Gen.1:29 is NOT teaching that God
originally intended mankind to be vegetarians.
     Is  ALL  vegetation  good  for  food?  Of  course it is not!
Some vegetation if eaten  will KILL YOU! Even some of the seed
bearing vegetation is harmful to you. So Gen.1:29 is NOT an all
encompassing simple formula as to what God intended our first
parents to eat. God would have had to spend some in-depth time
with them concerning diet and  what  they  should  and  should 
not eat to remain healthy and strong.  We need to remember that
the first chapters of Genesis only hit  the  high  spots  - much
more than what is recorded for us must have transpired.  Are  we 
to assume that after God blessed and sanctified the 7th day
Sabbath, He never instructed Adam and Eve on how to keep that day
holy? Are we to believe that after God created sex He never gave
our first parents any instructions on sexuality?
     What about husband and wife relations, are we to understand
that God gave no lessons of instruction on this topic to Adam and
Eve before they fell into sin?

     The  Bible gives us no time frame from the 7th day of
creation to the serpent leading Eve into sin - it could have been
a number of weeks, months or even years. In any event, knowing
God to be the loving, kind and merciful person that He is, it
would be very improbable that He did not give much more detailed
instructions on many important subjects that Adam and Eve would
need as they began the beginning of their lives.

     I have written very extensively on the law of Gen.1:29
concerning eating foods bearing seeds. In a nut shell (pun
intended) the main teaching that God is giving us in Gen.1:29 is
NOT that we should, or that He originally wanted us to be
vegetarians, but that the vegetation we should eat should be seed
bearing and green. In other words or as an example, what this
verse in Genesis is teaching is that things like mushrooms or
moss were not created to be food for the health and wellbeing of
mankind. There is a teaching of "limitations" of what vegetation
is to be eaten in this verse. This limitation teaching is the
theme and main point of what God said to Adam and Eve in 
Gen.1:29,30 and NOT that they were only to eat vegetation.

     Now  ask  yourself  this  question, if it was the Lord's
original "state of the art" plan for mankind to be vegetarians,
then would you not suppose those Christians who were following
God's original design to be the stronger - the more spiritually
stronger - the less spiritually  weaker? Of course you would I
think,for they would be the ones going back to the way it
supposedly was before sin entered the world.  You  would think
the Bible would hold up such people as the "strong in the faith."
Well hold on to that for a while, and if you believe the
vegetarian only eater is the more stronger in the faith, then 
you  are  in for a big surprise, right out of the very
Word of God.
     Before I give you that eye opening verse that will "blow
your mind" (if you've never read it before), first, I want you to
understand a very important point of Bible STUDY. God has caused
His word to be written down as a jig-saw-puzzle. He has 
deliberately and methodically done this so people will be led
astray and deceived - blinded from His truths. Until God removes 
that blindness through the power of the Holy Spirit, not only
can no one come to Christ to be saved from sin, but they can not
understand God's word. Oh, they may understand little portions of
it, but their errors will outnumber by far the truths they have.
You need to look up and read carefully these scriptures that
prove what I have just said is true: Rev.12:9; Acts 4:8-12; John
6:44,65; Mark 13:11,12; Mat.13:10-16.

     Even  those  who have been called and chosen by the Father
are to "Study to show thyself approved unto God,a workman that
needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" (2
Tim.2:15). 
     It was Jesus who said "Thy (the Father's) word is
truth"(John 17:17). He was referring to God's inspired word as
found in the Holy Bible. This only is truth, not some writings of
a man or woman.
     I want you to turn to Isaiah the 28th chapter. Notice what
Isaiah says in verse 9, "Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom
shall he make to understand DOCTRINE?" A very good question
indeed, then he gives the answer,  "them that are weaned with
milk, and drawn from the breast."                                
                      
     But in what way does being "weaned from the milk" mean? 
Isaiah was inspired to tell us in the next verse, "For precept
must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line; line
upon line; here a little and there a little."
     God  has  put His word down like a jig-saw-puzzle - you must
hunt and search for all the pieces of any particular area or
topic before you can know and understand the truth of any
doctrine.
     Just as Jesus spoke in parables to the vast population NOT
so they would better understand but so they would NOT UNDERSTAND,
so they would not "get it" but be left in darkness and sin. So,
God has written His word a little here and a little there, a line
here and a line there, in order that those who will not study to
show themselves approved, rightly dividing(putting together) the
word of truth, searching it out and fitting it together like a
jig-saw-puzzle, will, "....go and fall backward, and be broken,
and snared, and taken"(Isaiah 28:13).

     So let's put what we have just discovered into practice.
Sometimes God has given us a line of truth in Genesis within the
context of a certain topic and another line of truth on the same
subject in another book of the Bible far away from Genesis. And
this is the case here on this question as to the original diet
God intended Adam and Eve to follow. We find more to this puzzle
way over in the book of......TIMOTHY! Yes, way over in the New
Testament.
     Turn to the first book of Timothy and chapter 4. Paul was
inspired to foretell about the latter days and a time when some
would "depart  from the faith" in verse one. They would become so
hardened in their false beliefs that were doctrines of demons,
that their minds would be branded and just about impossible to
change to acknowledge the truth. I hope dear reader your mind is
not seared to the point where you can not admit your errors and
rejoice in the truth.
     We  see  in  verses 3-5 that Paul mentions TWO wrong
doctrines in particular. One is "forbidding to marry" and we
certainly have that doctrine around us today. One large Christian
church still teaches its priests to remain single, and there are
others who teach people not to marry when they are within God's
law to do so.
     But  now on to the second false doctrine that Paul talks
about in some detail.  Paul is telling us that some would depart
from the faith in the latter days and teach that we should
abstain from "meats" or food, of what kind? - creatures is the
answer(verse 4).
     The word used here for "creature" is the same as James 1:18.
We humans of flesh and blood are "creatures" in that sense of the
word. So are cows, sheep, goats, and pigs and horses for that
matter, as well as all birds and fish.                           
            
     Is Paul in these verses telling us that we are now allowed
to eat anything that moves, creeps, wiggles or crawls?  Some say
he is and that God's laws concerning clean and unclean meats is
no longer in effect today.
     As we carefully  examine the words Paul uses we can see that
is NOT what Paul was teaching.  The meats that Paul was saying
some would tell you to abstain from, were to be received with
thanksgiving OF  THEM  which believe and know the truth.  Again,
let me ask, what is truth?  I gave you the answer earlier - God's
word is truth said Jesus. And we are to live by every word of it
He told us (Mat.4:4). God's word in Lev.11 and Duet.14 gives us
the laws of the clean and unclean creatures. Nothing in the New
Testament teaches that New Covenant Christians are set free from
the physical laws of health that were set down by the Lord under
the Old Covenant, and even before that covenant came. But all of
that proof must be given in another study on CLEAN AND UNCLEAN
MEATS.
     Notice verse 4 and 5. Every creature is good and nothing to
be refused  FOR, verse five says, "For it is SANCTIFIED by the
WORD OF GOD and prayer."  Those creatures that are to be received
with thankfulness by those who know the truth, are FIRST of all,
sanctified by God's word - set apart by God's word. God's word
sets them apart for you  -  tells you which kind of creatures are
given to you for food to eat. It is not prayer that is first, you
can not just pray over any slimy unclean creature and ask God to
bless it to your bodies health when He has never sanctified it by
His word for you to eat.
     Those who know the truth, those who know what meats are set
apart as fit to eat in God's word, can receive it with a thankful
heart.
     These  sanctified creatures are to be received and not
refused as some in the latter days would teach.
     Remember when Paul was writing this there was no large scale
meat pollution of clean animals like there is today. Yet even
with our polluted planet it is possible to obtain organic natural
meats that only acid rain has contaminated, then acid rain has
contaminated many organic vegetables also.
     This prophecy of Paul's should make would be "vegetarianism
is God's original design"  preachers SHAKE in their boots!  Paul
said that in the last days a departing from the faith would
include a doctrine from demons that would teach people to abstain
from meats/creatures which God created to be received - as given
in Lev.11 and Duet.14.
     And that brings me to that word in verse three - CREATED!
The Greek phrase reads "which God created for reception." 
     When were these clean, sanctified by God's word, creatures 
made  clean? Sometime after the fall of man, or after Noah's
flood?  No,they were CREATED clean, from the very beginning when
God made them during those 7 creative days.
     Genesis 7 tells you that Noah took seven pairs of CLEAN
animals into the ark and only two of a kind from the unclean. The
animals were clean and unclean before the flood. Paul was
inspired to tell us they were made this way WHEN they were
created.
     Paul tells us they were created to be received by those who
would know the truth. Did Adam and Eve know the truth? Sure they
did! God walked and talked with them - instructed them in the way
they ought to go. He had Adam give names to the animals, surely
at that time God instructed him about which were created clean
and which were created unclean - which were fit for him to eat
and which were not.

PAUL AND THE ROME CHURCH CONTROVERSY 

     Even  during the apostolic church age this argument of
eating or NOT eating meat arose in a least one of the churches of
God. And who did the Lord inspire to judge the matter, why the
man who undoubtedly was the Churches most scholastic minister -
the man who was highly educated and a past expert in Pharisaical
teachings - the man Paul.  
     This  man was a student of the Old Testament and Jewish
teachings and traditions. More important, he claimed he was
personally taught by  Christ  -  see  Galatians  1:11,12.
Certainly he had many of the gifts of the Spirit and was not
afraid to use the scriptures to prove his point.                 
                          
     He  was  not slow to use the first few chapter of Genesis to
bear evidence to his stand. I would like you to note how he
backed up instruction to Timothy about women teaching in the 
church (l Tim.2:11-14).  He  used  the  book  of  Genesis  to 
prove his point concerning  physical  circumcision and faith to
the Romans and Jews, in his book of Galatians.
     Paul was very well versed in the scriptures.                
      
     There  arose among the members of the church at Rome the
issue of eating all things (within the laws of God) and eating
herbs only.
     In other  words the issue of vegetarianism as opposed to
those who were not vegetarians. Here was the grand opportunity
for Paul to wax eloquent and put the record straight not only for
those at Rome but for the whole New Testament church from that
time on.               
     Surely if any man knew the truth of Gen.1:29 it would have
been Paul. If he had been fully taught by Christ and the Holy
Spirit that Gen.1:29 taught God's original ideal for mankind was
vegetarianism, he now had the opportunity to proclaim that truth
to the Church in straight forward language. He could have easily
said as Jesus often did, "from the beginning" it was not so or it
was so. He could have easily quoted Gen.1:29 as he did with other
Genesis verses, to prove the faith of the herb only eaters was
the correct one from an "original" point of view. He could easily
have upheld as "stronger in the faith" those who taught
vegetarianism as God's original ideal as found in Gen.1:29.      
                                        
     But he did NO SUCH THING! It would seem from what he did say
the verse in question in Genesis DID NOT ENTER HIS MIND for one 
second. He did not allude to it, quote from it, give it as an
example, or even come close to it in any way.                    
 
     Now look at what he DID say. You will find it in Romans
14:1-2.   
     "Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to
doubtful disputations.  For one believes that he may eat all
things: another who is weak, eateth herbs."                      
                  
     Notice carefully, Paul is not talking about someone who is 
PHYSICALLY weak in body or health, but one who is weak "in THE
FAITH." 
     Now who would you say could be "weak in the faith"?  A
person who understands God's basic 10 commandments, who knows the
7th day Sabbath should be kept holy, who has repented and
accepted Jesus as their savior, who has been baptized in water -
could he/she be still looked upon as weak in the faith, not
knowing too much else about the  Bible, still having lots to read
and learn about God's way of life?
     Yes  I  think they could be described as "a babe in Christ"
- "weak in the faith". Many coming into the Church of God at Rome
were from a pagan society, they knew very little about what God's
word said on many aspects of living. They were still looking into
the word to see how they would change their thinking, acting, and
customs. Few would have come from the background that Paul was
raised in, even many of the converted Jews had much to learn
about the REAL truths of God's word, most of them had followed
the traditions of the Pharisees or some other Jewish sect. There
would be many in the church who would be as Paul said, "weak in
the faith."

     Some understood that God's word sanctioned the eating of
MEAT - "may eat all things." In passing, there are those
who say this is "doing away with" the clean and unclean food laws
of the Old Testament, but does Paul mean by the use of the phrase
"may eat all things" that a person can now eat the plant DEADLY
NIGHT SHADE, or POISON mushrooms? Of course not! The "all things"
that Paul is referring to is ALL THINGS WITHIN the LAWS of God.
     Paul said, "another who is weak" and we have seen he was
referring to weak in KNOWLEDGE, weak in the UNDERSTANDING of the
faith, those, some at least, believed you should ONLY eat herbs
and vegetables.

     These are the two verses that should "blow you away" as I
told you earlier that I would give you. There is just no way
around it, the truth of the matter is pretty plain to see if you
are willing to see it. In Paul's mind (and he was as spiritually
strong in knowledge as any one, being directly taught of Jesus -
Galatians 1) those who believed that it was God's original
intention, or that it was spiritually more faithful, to be a
vegetarian, were WEAK IN THE FAITH! They just did not understand,
they had, at least on this point of the faith, some growing in
strength yet to attain.

     Paul did make it very clear in the following verses that the
meat eater and the vegetarian were to accept each other as full
members of the body of Christ. They were not to condemn each
other. They were both at liberty under God, to either eat meat or
not eat meat. Both were fully received by God as His child.
     There is no law of God that says you MUST eat meat. God has
given the clean and unclean food laws to show which creatures He
created to be good food for humans, but He never said a person
MUST eat meat as a way of life. It is interesting in passing that
the PASSOVER and those participating in it were to eat LAMB! So
all circumcised men and all women were to eat lamb at least once
a year under the Old Covenant. Under the New Covenant this was
replaced by BREAD and the fruit of the VINE. So, from the death
of Christ forward no person has to eat ANY meat, at any time, if
they do not want to.

     Eating meat or not eating meat is a PHYSICAL thing.
Spiritually it has NO influence on God at all. It is NOTHING to
Him. He allowes His children to eat or not eat meat. God shows no
more favor to the one or the other.
     This eating meat or not eating meat is strictly PHYSICAL
unless the vegetarian WANTS TO MAKE IT A MATTER OF FAITH, wants
to make it into a spiritual issue, then if they do, Paul was
inspired to write that from THE FAITH point of view, the
vegetarian was "weak in the faith" - there was no scriptural
ground for their belief that it was God's original design for
mankind to be herb eaters only. To take it one step further, by
saying such a stand was equivalent to being "weak in the faith"
would indicate that the opposite, understanding God gave clean
animals to be eaten by Adam and Eve from the beginning, was to be
"strong in the faith."

WHAT ABOUT THE EXAMPLE OF DANIEL?

     Many religious vegetarians who want to take their stand on
the platform of "the faith," will try to use the example of
Daniel as found in the book of daniel, chapter 1 and verses 1-20.
     
     The Seventh Day Adventist study lessons before cited were
true to the context when they wrote:

     "Daniel's test case was not so much over the benefits of
vegetarianism as it was over his loyalty to God."

     Notice verse 8 of Daniel chapter one. He was determined in
his heart "not to DEFILE himself with the portion of the king's
meat, nor with the wine which he drank...." 

     This section of Scripture does not tell us what the king was
eating or drinking but whatever it was it would have DEFILED
Daniel. As this young man knew the health and food laws of God he
was not going to defile himself by breaking those laws.
Obviously, if he had eaten the king's food he would have
compromised his faith.  
     Nothing in this section of God's word shows vegetarianism to
be spiritually superior or to be God's original ideal diet for
mankind.

THE EXAMPLE OF JESUS

     It is recorded that Jesus was sinless, that He came to this
earth and set us the PERFECT example of how to live - mentally,
spiritually, and physically. His life in word and deed is the
ultimate in perfection. He said that He did only what His Father
in heaven wanted Him to do and to speak.
     Jesus often had confrontations with the religious leaders of
His time. Many of those encounters involved PHYSICAL things,
customs and rites, such as eating with unwashed hands. Sometimes
Jesus would answer by taking them back to BEFORE Moses and to
God's original law and ideal.
     The laws of clean and unclean meats had been a part of daily
life among the Jews. Here was Jesus magnifying the laws of God,
restoring them to their correct understanding and application,
talking about the way things should be in the lives of His
followers, setting the example in word and deed. If He knew that
it was Scripturally correct from Gen. 1:29 that God's original
ideal for mankind and especially His children, was to stop eating
meat and become vegetarians, you would think that somewhere, at
some time, during those three and a half years of public
ministry, He would have corrected the situation, at least for His
followers of that time and those to come afterwards. BUT HE NEVER
UTTERED A WORD ON THE SUBJECT!!

     Even after His resurrection, and His return to the Father in
heaven and the coming of the Holy Spirit to reveal all the truth
and to bring all things to remembrance that He spoke, was anyone
(that was used to write the New Testament) inspired to affirm
that God's original ideal was to have all people as vegetarians.
Not one word about this in the New Testament - complete SILENCE!
And when something is said about the issue of eating or not
eating meat, the person who believes as a matter of FAITH, is
regarded by the inspired Paul as "weak in the faith."

     Jesus set us an example. Did Jesus eat meat? He observed the
Passover all of His life - so He ate LAMB at least once every
year. The Bible is full of examples of the men and women of God
eating meat, eggs, fish, butter, and milk!

     Yes, in today's polluted societies, we need to be careful
about the eating of meats, fish, milk, and the like, but then we
need also to be careful about our choices of flour, rice, and
sweets, for they can be terribly polluted also and/or robbed of
all their natural goodness through refining processes.
     I have seen far too many none meat eaters, who think they
are returning to God's original ideal in diet, eating, as a way
of life, white flour products, white rice, white sugar, too many
refined sweet products, and drinking soda pops by the carton.

     God's design for us was to follow His food laws as laid out
in His word. 

     I will publish other articles under this food law heading as
time permits.

                             ..................................................

Written January 1993

FOOT NOTE:

     Some would say that in God giving man dominion over all the
earth He was given the power over all creatures to rule and
subdue them, so the horse would serve man, the donkey and the
mule, the ox, even the elephant etc. He could train them and
build circuses BUT they would not be for food, not even the
"clean" animals, the argument would go.
     This falls in the light of God giving man dominion over the
FISH of the seas! If a man was to be a vegetarian why would God
hive him rulership and dominion over that which was in the sea?
The sea and that in it would be of no concern for mankind if God
had told him to be a vegetarian and he was only to eat nuts,
grains, seeds, and plants.
     Man has never used the large sea creatures as cargo carriers
of merchandise, so why at the beginning of man's creation was he
told by the creator that he could have dominion over the fish of
the sea, if he was not to eat of those fish? Surely nobody thinks
this means that God was telling mankind he could catch fish to
put in a glass tank and watch them swim around during the evening
time while relaxing in his tent or hut because they would have no
TV to view.
     Surely no one believes this was the Lord's instruction for
man to catch fish, for Adam and Eve to catch fish, and put them
in a big pond so Cain and Abel could watch them swim around.
     I suggest that by God telling Adam and Eve RIGHT FROM THE
BEGINNING that they had dominion over the fish in the seas, He
was telling them that the fish of the sea were for FOOD. As I
have said in the body of this article, God would have spent a
number of hours and lessons of instruction to inform Adam and Eve
about His food laws - the clean and unclean animals, birds, fish
and creeping things, that He had created to be good food for
mankind to eat. He would have spent some time with them
instructing them about what green see-bearing plants were good
for food, as some of them if eaten can make you sick, or even
kill you within a very short time.
     
     Verse 28 and 29 of Genesis chapter one, are GENERAL
statements only. They tell us God gave to the first man and woman
creatures of the sea, land and air, the plants and vegetation of
the earth that was green and seed bearing, for food. These verses
are GENERAL STATEMENTS and not all encompassing instructions as
to what God told Adam and Eve about His food laws. In the same
way Genesis 2:24,25 are not all encompassing verses about
marriage and sex. The lord would have given them any number of
lessons and instruction on both marriage and sex, as well as
childbirth and delivery.
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MUSHROOMS AND FUNGI----NOT CREATED TO BE EATEN #1, #2

 MUSHROOMS and FUNGI....NOT created for Human FOOD #1



MUSHROOMS AND FUNGI.....not Created for Human Food #1


I  have  known  the  truth  about  mushrooms and fungi not being created by God for human food  for  decades,  but  I've  had  to  wait  for  decades  to  finally  have  someone  write  the  technicalities  of  it,  in  simple  to  understand  language  -  Michael  Pollan  has  done  just  that.  When  you  finish  reading  this  two-part  study,  some  simple  logic  common  sense  should  tell  you  that  mushrooms  and  fungi,  were  never  given  by  the  Creator  for  us  to  eat  -  Keith Hunt


GATHERING:  THE   FUNGI 


by  Michael Pollan from his book "Omnivore's Dilemma"( 2006)


.......I hadn't actually thought about the gardener's worldview in this light till I'd spent some time mushroom hunting, which proposes a whole other way of being in nature. Hunting for mushrooms is an operation that superficially resembles harvesting—you're looking around in nature for the ready-to-eat—yet you quickly discover that the two activities could hardly be more different. For starters, mushrooms are usually hunted in an unfamiliar place where you stand a very good chance of getting lost, particularly since you are looking down at the ground so determinedly the whole time. Getting lost just isn't much of a problem in the garden. (Which is why gardeners looking to create that experience plant mazes.) And whereas in your garden the ready-to-eat tomato beckons to you, flashing red from out of the undifferentiated green, mushrooms definitely hide. Picking and eating the wrong ones could get you killed, too, something not easily done in the garden. No, gratifying human needs and desires is just not what mushrooms are about. Mushrooms, you soon discover, are wild things in every way, beings pursuing their own agenda quite apart from ours. Which is why "hunting," rather than harvesting, is the mycophile's preferred term of art.


1. FIVE CHANTERELLES


It was a Sunday morning in late January when I got the call from Angelo.

"The chanterelles are up," he announced.

"How do you know? Have you been out looking?"

"No, not yet. But it's been three weeks since the big rains." We'd had a torrential week between the holidays. "They're up now, I'm sure of that. We should go tomorrow."

At the time I barely knew Angelo (we had yet to go pig hunting), which made his invitation to come mushrooming with him all the more generous. Mushroom hunters are famously protective of their "spots," and a good chanterelle spot is a precious personal possession (though not quite as precious as a good porcini spot). Before Angelo agreed to take me I'd asked a slew of acquaintances I knew to be my-cophiles if I might accompany them. (The Bay Area is home to many such people, probably because mushroom hunting marries the region's two guiding obsessions: eating and the outdoors.) I was always careful to solemnly swear to protect the location of their spots. For some people you could see at once that this was an entirely outrageous request, tantamount to asking if I might borrow their credit card for the afternoon. Others reacted more calmly, yet always cagily Angelo's friend Jean-Pierre is reputed to have good chanterelle spots right within the Berkeley city limits, but he repeatedly found polite ways to deflect my entreaties into the distant future. Several mushroom hunters responded to my request with the same joke: "Sure, you can come mushroom hunting with me, but I must tell you that immediately afterward I will have to kill you." What you fully expect to follow such a jokey warning (a warning I always parried with an offer to wear a blindfold coming and going) is some sort of conditional invitation, but it never arrives. Without ever exactly saying no, the mushroom hunter will defdy beg off or change the subject. I thought maybe the problem was that I was a writer, somebody who might do something as crazy as publish the location of a favorite spot, so I emphasized that a journalist would sooner go to jail than reveal a secret from a confidential source. This swayed precisely no one. I was beginning to think it was hopeless, that I was going to have to learn to hunt mushrooms from books—a dubious, not to mention dangerous, proposition. And then Angelo called.


Though I probably shouldn't overstate Angelo's generosity. The place he took me mushrooming was on private and gated land owned by an old friend of his, so it wasn't as though he was giving away the family jewels. The property was a vineyard outside of Glen Ellen, with several hundred untended acres of oak chaparral stretching to the northeast toward St. Helena. As soon as you stepped out of the manicured vineyard the land relaxed into gently rolling savanna, with broad sloping passages of grass, verdant after the winter rains, punctuated by shady groves of live oak and bay laurel.


The chanterelle is a mycorrhizal species, which means it lives in association with the roots of plants—oak trees, in the chanterelle's case, and usually oak trees of a venerable age. Though there must have been hundreds of promisingly ancient oaks here, Angelo, who had been hunting chanterelles on the property for years, seemed to be on a first name basis with every one of them. "That one there is a producer," he'd tell me, pointing across the meadow with his forked walking stick to an unremarkable tree. "But the one next to it, I never once found a mushroom there."


I cut my own walking stick from an oak branch and set off across the meadow to hunt beneath the tree Angelo had declared a good producer. He had instructed me to use the stick to turn over the leaf litter wherever it seemed uplifted. The stick also would carry spores from one tree to another, Angelo explained; evidently he regarded himself as something of a bumblebee to the chanterelles, transporting their genes from tree to tree. (In general mushroom hunters view their role in nature as benign.) I looked around my tree for a few minutes, walking a stooped circle under its drip line, flicking the leaf litter here and there with my stick, but I saw nothing. Eventually Angelo came over and pointed to a spot no more than a yard from where I stood. I looked, I stared, but still saw nothing but a chaotic field of tan leaves and tangled branches. Angelo got down on his knees and brushed the leaves and soil away to reveal a bright squash-colored trumpet the size of his fist. He cut it at the base with a knife and handed it to me; the mushroom was unexpectedly heavy, and cool to the touch.


How in the world had he spotted it? The mushroom hadn't even peeked up from the leaf litter yet. Apparently you had to study the leaves for subtle signs of hydraulic lift from below, and then look at the ground sideways, because the fat gold shafts of the chanterelles often reveal themselves before their tops break through the leaves. Yet when Angelo pointed to another spot under the same tree, a spot where he had obviously seen another mushroom, I was still blind. Not until he had shuffled the leaves with the tip of his stick did the golden nugget of fungus flash at me. I became convinced that Angelo had some other sense working for him besides sight, that he must be smelling the chanterelles before looking down to see them.


But that's apparendy how it goes with hunting mushrooms: You have to get your eyes on, as hunters will sometimes put it. And after following Angelo around for a while, I did begin to get my eyes on, a little, though at first, oddly enough, this would only happen when I was in Angelo's presence, working the same oak tree. Other novices talk about this phenomenon, and I suspect it's a little like the trick of the counting horse, who is not really doing arithmetic, as it appears, but is merely picking up subtle clues in the body language of its trainer. Wherever Angelo lingered, wherever the beams of his gaze raked the ground with particular intensity, I would look and occasionally would see. I was the horse who could count, the man who could find a chanterelle using someone else's eyes.


But before the morning was out I'd begun to find a few chanterelles on my own. I began to understand what it meant to have my eyes on, and the chanterelles started to pop out of the landscape, one and then another, almost as though they were beckoning to me. So had I stumbled on a particularly good spot or had I learned at last how to see them? Nature or nurture? There was no way of telling, though I did have the eerie experience of resurveying the very same patch of ground and finding a Siamese pair of chanterelles, bright as double egg yolks, in a spot where a moment before I could swear there had been nothing but the tan carpet of leaves. Either they had just popped up or visual perception is a lot more variable, and psychological, than we think. It is certainly ruled by expectation, because whenever I was convinced I was in a good spot the mushrooms were more likely to appear. "Seeing is believing" has it backward when it comes to hunting mushrooms; in this case, believing is seeing. My ability to see mushrooms seemed to function less like a window than a tool, a constructed and wielded thing.


After spotting a couple of nice ones I developed a measure of confidence that ultimately proved to be unfounded. Based on my still modest scores I worked out a snap theory of the Good Spot, which involved the optimal springiness of the soil and the distance from the trunk, but the theory didn't hold up. After a brief run of luck I prompdy went blind again—and failed to find another mushroom all day. I would say there were no more mushrooms left to find, except that Angelo was still finding them under canopies I had supposedly exhausted; not a lot— we were a few days early, he decided—but enough to fill a grocery bag.

I had managed to find a total of five, which doesn't sound like much except that several of them weighed close to a pound each. My five chanterelles were tremendous, beautiful things I couldn't wait to taste.

And that night I did. I washed off the dirt, patted them dry, and then sliced the chanterelles into creamy white slabs. They smelled faintly of apricots, and I knew at once that this was the same mushroom I had found near my house, the one I had been afraid to taste. The squashy hue matched, and these had the same shallow gills, ridges really, running up the stalk, which flared out to meet the gently in-folded cap like a stout golden vase. I sauteed the chanterelles as Angelo had recommended, first in a dry frying pan to sweat out their water, which was copious, and then with butter and shallots. The mushrooms were delicious in a subde way that could easily be overwhelmed or overlooked. They had a delicate flavor, fruity with a hint of pepper, and a firm but silky texture.

You might reasonably ask if, eating my wild mushrooms, I felt the least bit concerned about waking up dead. Did I harbor any lingering doubts that these mushrooms were really chanterelles—edible delicacies and not some deadly poison Angelo had mistaken for chanterelles? An understandable question, yet oddly enough, in view of my myco-phobic predilections, it was no longer an issue. Oh, maybe I felt the vaguest shadow of a doubt as I lifted the first forkful, but it was easily brushed aside. I trusted Angelo implicitly, and besides, these mushrooms smelled and tasted right.


At dinner that night we joked about mushroom poisoning, recalling the time Judith had stumbled upon a prodigious patch of morels while biking with her friend Christopher in Connecticut. She came home with a trash bag half full of them, an astounding haul. But I could not bring myself to serve the mushrooms until we could get some kind of confirmation that these were indeed morels and not, say, the "false morels" that the field guides warned against. But how to be sure? I couldn't quite trust the books, or at least my reading of them. The solution to the dilemma seemed obvious, if perhaps a little heartless. I proposed to Judith we put the morels in the refrigerator overnight, and then give Christopher a call in the morning. Assuming he was sufficiently alive to answer his phone, he would undoubtedly mention whether he'd eaten the morels the previous night, and we would then know ours were safe to eat. I saw no reason to mention his role as an experimental human subject.


Well, that's one way of dealing with the omnivore's dilemma. Wild mushrooms in general throw that dilemma into particularly sharp relief, since they confront us simultaneously with some of the edible world's greatest rewards and gravest risks. Arguably, mushroom eating poses the starkest case of the omnivore's dilemma, which could explain why people hold such strong feelings, pro or con, on the subject of wild mushrooms. As mycologists are fond of pointing out, you can divide most people, and even whole cultures, into mycophiles and mycophobes. Anglo-Americans are notoriously mycophobic, while Europeans and Russians tend to be passionate mycophiles, or so mush-roomers will tell you. But I suspect most of us harbor both impulses in varying proportions, approaching the wild mushroom with a heightened sense of the omnivore's basic tension as we struggle to balance our adventurousness in eating against a protective fear, our neophilia against our neophobia.


As the case of mushrooms suggests the omnivore's dilemma often comes down to a question of identification—to knowing exactly what it is you are preparing to eat. From the moment Angelo handed me that first mushroom, what is and is not a chanterelle suddenly seemed as plain to me as sunshine. I knew right then that the next time I found a chanterelle, anywhere, I would recognize it and not hesitate to eat it. Which is peculiar, when you consider that in the case of the chanterelle I found in my neighborhood, a half dozen authoritative field guides by credentialed mycologists had failed to convince me beyond a reasonable doubt of something I now was willing to bet my life on, based on the say-so of one Sicilian guy with no mycological training whatsoever. How could that be?


In deciding whether or not to ingest a new food, the omnivore will happily follow the lead of a fellow omnivore who has eaten the same food and lived to talk about it. This is one advantage we have over the rat, which has no way of sharing with other rats the results of his digestive experiments with novel foodstuffs. For the individual human, his community and culture successfully mediate the omnivore's dilemma, telling him what other people have safely eaten in the past as well as how they ate it. Just imagine if we had to decide every such edibility question on our own; only the bravest or most foolish of us would ever eat a mushroom. The social contract is a great boon to omnivores in general, and to mushroom eaters in particular.


The field guides contain our culture's accumulated wisdom on the subject of mushrooms. Curiously, though, the process of imparting and absorbing this life-and-death information works much better in person than it does on paper, whether through writing or even photography. Andrew Weil discusses this phenomenon in a wonderful series of essays on mushrooms he's collected in a volume called The Marriage of the Sun and Moon. "One learns most mushrooms in only one way: through people who know them. It is terribly difficult to do it from books, pictures, or written descriptions."

I wonder if books fail us here because the teaching transaction— This one is good to eat, that one not—is so fundamental, even primordial, that we're instinctively reluctant to trust it to any communication medium save the oldest: that is, direct personal testimony from, to put it blundy, survivors. After all, precisely what is meant by "this one," the myriad qualities embedded in that modest little pronoun, can be conveyed only imperfecdy in words and pictures. Our ability to identify plants and fungi with confidence, which after all is one of the most critical tools of our survival, involves far more sensory information than can ever be printed on a page; it is, truly, a form of "body knowledge" not easily reduced or conveyed over a distance........"


......................................................



MUSHROOM DILEMMA !!


MUSHROOM  FOLLY

by  Michael  Pollan



......So my fungiphobia was another thing I'd have to overcome if I hoped to ever serve a personally hunted and gathered meal, because wild mushrooms had to be on the menu. Mushroom hunting seems to 1 me the very soul of foraging, throwing both the risks and rewards of eating from the wild into the sharpest possible relief. If I hoped to host representatives of all three kingdoms on my plate, learning to distinguish the delicious from the deadly among the fungi was a necessity. (Actually I hoped to wangle a fourth kingdom in there—a mineral—if I could manage to locate a salt flat within driving distance of my house.)

 I began consulting field guides to help me identify the many unfamiliar species I'd been content to treat as leafy, fungal, and feathery background noise......

 I scanned the leaf litter around a couple of oaks but saw nothing. Just when I'd given up and turned to head back, however, I noticed a bright, yolky glimmer of something pushing up the carpet of leaves not two feet from where I'd just stepped. I brushed away the leaves and there it was, this big, fleshy, vase-shaped mushroom that I was dead certain had to be a chanterelle.
Or was it?

How certain was that?

I took the mushroom home, brushed off the soil, and put it on a plate, then pulled out my field guides to see if I could confirm the identification. Everything matched up: the color, the faint apricot smell, the asymmetrical trumpet shape on top, the underside etched in a shallow pattern of "false" gills. I felt fairly confident. But confident enough to eat it? Not quite. The field guide mentioned something called a "false chanterelle" that had slighdy "thinner" gills. Uh oh. Thinner, thicker: These were relative terms; how could I tell if the gills I was looking at were thin or thick ones? Compared to what? My mother's mycophobic warnings rang in my ears. I couldn't trust my eyes. I couldn't quite trust the field guide. So whom could I trust? Angelo! But that meant driving my lone mushroom across the bridge to San Francisco, which seemed excessive. My desire to saute and eat my first-found chanterelle squabbled with my doubts about it, slender as they were. But by now I had passed the point of being able to enjoy this putative chanterelle without anxiety, so I threw it out.
I didn't realize it at the time, but I had impaled myself that afternoon on the horns of the omnivore's dilemma.
....................

YES  I  GUESS  HE  HAD  IMPALED  HIMSELF  ON  A  DILEMMA!!

YOU  HAVE  TO  BE  AN  EXPERT  ON  MUSHROOMS  TO  PICK  THE  RIGHT  ONES;  IF  NOT  YOU  CAN  KILL  YOURSELF!!

NOW  GOD  TOLD  THE  FIRST  HUMANS  THE  'rule"  FOR  PLANT  EATING....FRUIT  EATING.....MUST  BEAR  SEEDS.

SIMPLE  AS  THAT..... OF  ALL  FRUITS  AND  VEGETATION  TO  EAT  IT  MUST  REPRODUCE  BY  SEEDS.

MUSHROOMS,  FUNGI,  MOSS,  SEA-WEED,  AND  SUCH  DO  NOT  BEAR  SEEDS!!

THEY  SHOULD  NOT  BE  EATEN!!

WHY  WOULD  GOD  CREATE  SOME  MUSHROOMS  THAT  LITERALLY  CAN  KILL  YOU,  AND  HAVE  IT  AS  FOOD;  NEEDING  A  PhD  TO  KNOW  WHICH  ONES  WILL  NOT  KILL  YOU.  SIMPLE  ANSWER......MUSHROOMS  WERE  NEVER  CREATED  TO  BE  EATEN  BY  HUMANS.

NOW  IT  DOES  NOT  MATTER  WHAT  SOME  "DIET-NUTRITIONIST"  HAVE  TO  SAY,  ABOUT  MUSHROOMS  HAVE  THIS  VITAMIN  OR  THAT,  OR  THIS  MINERAL  OR  THAT,  AND  HOW  GOOD  THAT  IS.  I  HAVE  A  "HEALTH  BOOK"  THAT  TELLS  YOU  ALL  THE  GOOD  VITAMINS  ETC.  IN  "PORK"  -  MAKES  NO  DIFFERENCE  -  GOD'S  LAWS  SAY  PORK  IS  AN  UNCLEAN  SUBSTANCE [I  WILL  NOT  CALL  IT  "FOOD"]  AND  IS  NOT  TO  BE  EATEN  TO  BE  HEALTHY.

THERE  IS  NO  DILEMMA  -  MUSHROOMS  ARE  NOT  TO  BE  EATEN  -  THEY  ARE  PART  OF  THE  UNCLEAN  VEGETATION  LAW  OF  GOD.


Keith Hunt




Sunday, October 25, 2026

NO SABBATH-- ARGUMENTS ANSWERED #1,

 

Sabbath Arguments Answered #1

The Worldwide Church of God has abolished the Sabbath commandment - I answer their arguments

                   THE WCG TEACHING UNDER
                  THE LATE JOSEPH TKACH SR.
                                     
                                 CONCERNING

                THE OLD AND NEW COVENANT AND 
                          SABBATH DOCTRINES.

                              AN ANSWER BY

                                  Keith Hunt


   
   Solomon wrote that there was nothing new under the sun. So it
is with what Joseph Tkach wrote a few years before his death
concerning the Old and New Covenants together with the Sabbath
commandment.  From his writings the Worldwide Church of God have
adopted the Roman Catholic and Protestant understanding and
teaching concerning the Sabbath day as it is defined by them in
connection with the Old and New Covenants.
   There was much to agree with in the writings of Tkach on these
subjects. I will not quote what I agreed with but where I
disagreed with his theology. This series of articles concerns my
answers and replies to his arguments on the Covenant/ Sabbath
issues.

WORLDWIDE NEWS - DECEMBER 27TH, 1994

   "In this letter, I want to spend some time 'taking stock' of
where we are as the Church of God. God has led us closer to Him
and given us a deeper and richer understanding of the
gospel......Some wish we could have a 'slower pace of
change' .......Please understand I'm not making change just for
the sake of change.
But as I feel Christ leads the Church, I cannot continue a
teaching I feel He has led us to understand is erroneous......."

MY ANSWER

   Many should and are finding that the new teaching of being
able to work on the Sabbath (if their boss demands it, or if not
working means they will loose their job or not acquire the job),
VERY EASY to accept, IF they are not reading the whole Bible and
are blindly believing J. Tkach was one of the end time inspired
apostles who had been given more light and more truth than others
that went before him.

WORLDWIDE NEWS - JANUARY 10TH, 1995

   ".......As I say, we have often overlooked the implications of
this new covenant, and that is what I want to focus on in this
letter.......Each person will want to obey God not because of
some list of rules written down somewhere, but because he or
she has an obedient attitude - a circumcised heart.......People
will keep the spirit of the law......."

MY ANSWER

   Here we see the human reasonings and emotions of many others
who say, "I do not want God  listing rules for me to have to
obey. I do not want Him telling me in black and white what I must
or must not do. I want to be able to serve Him because I love
Him. I want to keep the spirit of the law from my own good
intentions and not because He tells me what is right and what is
wrong."
   This argument reminds me of the Biblical Church of God in
California some years back (after Fred Coulter and I had resigned
from their organization). They came out with a thick study paper
on "Tithing," claiming it was "done away" under the New Covenant.
But at the end of it all, they claimed that a Christian (who has
an income and profit) would have to give at least 10% to God's
work if his heart was right with the "spirit of the law."
It blew my mind when I read all this, for they could not see what
they had done. They had cast aside God's law as if it was old
rags and established their OWN law and rules to serve God. They
had taught their readers and members that the law of the Lord was
NOT to be obeyed while establishing their own way of
righteousness, that in this case ended up the same - a Christian
making a profit should be giving at least 10% and more if his
heart was with God, for after all, "where your heart is there
will be your treasure also."
   The BCG just did not want God TELLING them WHAT to DO!  They
did not want written rules to follow. They wanted God to allow
them to make their OWN rules and serve Him from the wonderful
"goodness" of the circumcised heart, and because he or she had an
obedient mind set willing to follow the rules it created for
itself to worship the Eternal with.
   The BCG in their "tithing" teaching, and the WCG in their
"Covenant/Sabbath" teaching have FORGOTTEN the TWO basic pillars
of the foundation to serve God.

   1. GOD DOES NOT GIVE US THE RIGHT TO DECIDE HOW WE WILL
WORSHIP HIM !  It is HE who tells us the HOW, the WHEN, the WHAT,
and the WHY to serve Him in spirit and in truth. Jesus said, "Thy
(The Father's) Word is truth." And He also said, "Man shall not
live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the
mouth of God."  EVERY WORD my friend is the WHOLE BIBLE!  Sure,
some things the New Testament(NT from here on) shows are
DIFFERENT under the "age of grace" as some call it, but the basic
10 COMMANDMENTS as amplified by both Old and New Covenants
STAND FIRM AND SURE.  I submit to you that any child (not filled
with pre-conceived ideas taught them by the mouth of adults) can
come to the knowledge of the truth I have stated. I know for a
fact it is so. I PERSONALLY KNOW THIS TRUTH, for I have been
there !
   I did not come to this truth that the laws of the Eternal
stand fast forever because  Herbert Armstrong and the
Worldwide Church of God taught it to me through their
literature. I was a dedicated and enthusiastic Sunday School
attender from the age of 7 years old. I attended a Church of
England school all my life to grade 12. The Bible was the first
lesson (for one half hour) each school-day morning. I loved
reading the word of the Lord. I was taught the laws of God were
good and should be obeyed. I was taught to memorize them just as
found in Exodus chapter 20. I was never taught nor did I ever
hear from  my teachers that Sunday was the first day of the
week. I grew up believing Sunday was the 7th day of the week. It
was not until I was 19 years old that the truth of Sunday being
the first day came to me through my Baptist landlord, and my
study in the local public library, after coming to Western
Canada.
   I had read the Bible and understood enough about what God said
concerning His Holy Laws (both in the letter and in the spirit)
NOT TO BE TAKEN IT by the North American fundamental (I came to
call them funny-mental) preachers, who were teaching that the
Sabbath had been "done away" under the NT.  Oh, the other NINE
they said should be observed, but the 4th one....the
Sabbath.....well that one was not important any more.  Our
societies we live in just make it too hard to keep that 4th
commandment, they said.  
   The WCG have jumped into the same bed with the funny-mental
guys, and they both have forgotten DEUTERONOMY 12:29-32,
especially verse 32, "What thing soever I COMMAND you, OBSERVE to
do it: you shall not ADD thereto, nor DIMINISH from it."
   The Bible is full of direct teaching and examples that give
forth the plain truth that we cannot serve God in the way WE
choose. But we are to worship and serve Him THE WAY He tells us! 
And some of those ways are with lists of rules and regulations
written down for us. How silly to think otherwise. What confusion
would arise to believe everyone can serve the Father with what he
thinks is right or wrong in his own eyes. What utter foolishness
to think that the heart of man - even with God's Spirit - can
have an obedient attitude and keep the spirit of the law without
the law written down, so we can know what that law is.  God's
laws ARE written down and that is the truth of the matter, pure
and simple. He wants us to KNOW THEM. To read them. To study
them. To mediate on them. To teach them to our children. To love
them.  You need to read Deut. 4:1-14; Ps.1; 19:7-10; 111; 119;
just for starters, then you may want to do a deep study in the
word concerning God's commandments and laws.  Using STRONG'S
CONCORDANCE of the Bible, read every verse where the words law,
commandments, statutes, precepts, are found in both Old and New
Testaments.

2. The leaders of the WCG have forgotten how DECEIVED and how
CARNAL the human heart can be, even with the Holy Spirit
dwelling in it.  Look at what Paul said about himself in Romans
chapter 7, verses 14-24.  Paul was a man mightily used by the
Lord, filled with the power of the Spirit, inspired to write much
of the NT, yet he knew very well how the heart of man, even after
conversion, still had within it the law of sin and death.
The converted heart still has within it the law that wars against
the spirit filled mind. It is only through Christ we can overcome
and subdue its wickedness.
   Look at how Paul had to write to the people of the Church of
God at Corinth. He told them he had to write to them as ones
"carnal" and as babes, who could not yet be fed on spiritual
meat.  They had so many sins and problems he had to correct them
on, yet they were true Christians, in the main,  who obviously
had been led astray into many false errors and wrong practices
and conduct.  
   Then besides all that, we also have the Devil to contend with.
He does not go away to trouble us no more after our baptism. He
still stays around to fire his darts at us, doing all to
penetrate our spiritual armor and inflict us with poison and the
knock-out blow that will destroy us from inheriting the Kingdom
of God.
   It is folly to think that the circumcised heart is so good and
so knowledgable that it can obey God without rules written down
somewhere. How would it know those rules?  Who would say my rules
could not be different from your rules in serving God?  Who
would set the "straight and narrow" way to life that Jesus talked
about? How could there be any straight and narrow way if there
was no fence?  How could there be a "broad way that leads to
destruction" as Christ said there was, if nothing is written down
to define what is the narrow and broad ways to life or death?
   The truth is that some of us are still so carnal after our
baptism, that if it was not for written laws of God that we can
look at and obey, we would be easy pickings for Satan to destroy.
   Some have been honest enough to admit to ministers of God that
they do not like to obey certain laws of the Lord, but they obey
because they are written laws that should be kept. Should these
people keep those laws they do not care for (their carnal nature
speaking up)? Sure they should! As they observe them over time,
it is hoped they come to attain the right attitude of loving
those laws like David did, when less human carnality is
supplanted by more of the Spirit of God, filling their mind and
heart with the love of God, which is the keeping of His
commandment (1 John 5:3; Rom.5:5).

WORLDWIDE NEWS - JANUARY 10TH, 1995

".......Of course, not every law in the Old Testament is done
away - many of those laws are repeated in the New
Testament.......Consider, for example, the Seventh
Commandment, which forbids adultery. Is that in force?
Absolutely! The commandment is repeated in the New
Testament.......Let's consider the First Commandment, in Exodus
20:3: 'You shall have no other gods.' That commandment is
repeated in the New Testament, so it's still in force......."

MY ANSWER

   How this reminds me of various religious men and groups I have
come to encounter over the past 30 years and more. It is the
classic
argument given to me by some from the Church of Christ: "We only
follow it if it is repeated in the NT."
   There was the man I met who only accepted the Old Testament(OT
from here on) and did not recognize the NT. The Bible that Jesus
used was good enough for Jesus, then it was good enough for him,
so the NT was cast off.  I met a man who accepted all the NT
except for the writings of Paul. The Roman Catholic Church
accepts the "apocrypha" books as part of inspired Scripture.
There are those who will only obey the laws of the Bible if
repeated more than once in the NT, for they say it is by two or
three witnesses a thing is established, and have an OT verse to
back it. They forgot that verse was in relation to human men and
courts of law in Israel, not to God, who does not lie or deceive,
and is true though every man be a liar. Once out of the mouth of
the Eternal is quite enough.
   So it goes, people having their own way around doing what the
Bible and Jesus said to do, and that is to LIVE BY EVERY WORD OF
GOD!  
   
   The word "sabbath" appears more often in the NT than any other
word connected with the other nine commandments, especially in
the four Gospel. The fourth commandment is talked about and
expounded upon just about more often in the Gospels than any
other law of God. With all of that, how easy it would have been
for one of the NT writers to have said somewhere the plain words,
"the Sabbath is not important under the NT" or "the Sabbath
command is not for the followers of Christ under the New
Covenant" or "the fourth commandment has been changed to the
first day of the week." 
No such words can be found in the entire NT.  Those who teach the
Sabbath commandment has been "done away" with in Col.2:16 also
teach that Paul did not do away with it when writing and
instructing the church at Rome, but the members could choose
whatever day they wanted to observe as the Sabbath (Romans 14). 
Rather unfair and contradictory of Paul do you not think?  To one
church he tells them it is done away but to another church they
can choose which day they like as the Sabbath.
   The truth is Paul is not abrogating the Sabbath in Col.2:16
and he is not letting people choose which day they like to keep
as the Sabbath in Romans 14.  Those sections of Scripture I have
covered fully in other studies.

   Jesus, it is recorded, had more discussions with the Pharisees
over the Sabbath issue than just about any other subject. Not
once did He come close to saying the Sabbath was "done away" or
not having to be obeyed under the age of grace or the New
Covenant.  Not once did He mention that the Sabbath could be
observed just as you please, in any way it might be fitting under
any situation that may arise, that everyone could work out
keeping the Sabbath according to their ideas and wishes from week
to week.  Oh, he swept aside many of the Pharisees' rules and
regulations of what constituted breaking the Sabbath, but never
once did He say the basic words and law of the Sabbath as written
in the fourth commandment of the ten, found in Exodus 20, was
no longer binding for the age of the Kingdom of God and grace.
   Jesus said that unless the righteousness of His followers
EXCEEDED the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees (Mat.5),
they would NOT enter the Kingdom of God!  Really pretty plain I
would say.  Now, the scribes and Pharisees were Sabbath
keepers, no question about that.  But, they were hypocrites, as
Jesus told them. They said but they did not do. Read again
Matthew 23.  Christ did not say His followers should have more
righteousness than the Pharisees to enter the Kingdom, except in
keeping the Sabbath for that law was no longer binding under the
New Covenant.  If that had have been true, it would have been so
easy for Christ or one of the Gospel writers to have added those
words of explanation.  But they are not to be found anywhere in
the NT.
   Jesus told His followers they were to do the Father's will,
they were to do His words that He spoke. If His followers loved
Him He said they would keep His commandments.
This is all written for us in the gospel of John.  Later, Peter
was inspired to say that the very EXAMPLE Jesus left us in the
way He lived, not sinning (and sin is the breaking of the law of
God - see I John 3:4; Rom.7:7), was FOR US TO FOLLOW (1 Peter
2:21,22). 
     Christ set us the perfect example during His life on earth
of Sabbath observance.  It is all there in the Gospels, plain and
simple to see and read, a small child can find it.  Jesus kept
all the Father's commandments, including the Sabbath commandment,
correctly, perfectly, without sin. And in so doing left us an
example that we should follow His steps! 

   And some have the gall to say the Sabbath commandment is NOT
REPEATED in the NT!  What on earth NT are they reading I ask?  It
must be a different one than what I have. 

   Circumcision was very "Jewish" was it not?  Yes, indeed!  It
was part of their national life for centuries.  So also was
Sabbath keeping!  There arose a great controversy in the early NT
Church of God.  It was over the subject of circumcision, was
it required for salvation?  Some said it was.  But Paul, Peter,
and others said it was not.  This was an important issue, so much
so that finally the Church had to call for a ministerial
conference over the matter.  That meeting was held in Jerusalem. 
It is recorded for us in Acts 15.
   Let me ask you: If the subject of circumcision was important
enough to hold a ministerial gathering to discuss the issue of it
being binding or not under the New Covenant,  do you not suppose
the subject of Sabbath observance, being still binding or
having the day changed to the first day,  would not also have
caused such debate that a ministerial conference equal to that of
Acts 15, would also have been called and recorded for us in the
NT?
   I think so!  Especially when we remember we are talking about
one of the BIG TEN commandments, that were written on tablets of
stone by the very finger of God Himself.  Doing away with any one
of these ten commandments under the New Covenant would
have generated a huge debate and would not have gone without
notice, at least equal to that found in Acts 15 concerning
circumcision.
   
   But the Sabbath law is not repeated in the NT so says the WCG
leadership. Let me ask another question: Does the NT have to
repeat everything contained in the OT before we are to obey it? 
Lots of things are repeated, many are the quotes from the OT we
can find in the NT. But is the Church of Christ minister that
once said to me, "We only obey what we find repeated in the NT"
correct?  They didn't have any kind of musical instrument 
playing during their service. I guess they could not find a NT
verse upholding the OT teaching and example of musical
instruments being played during worship services.
   To answer our question above, we can find Jesus REPEATING an
OT verse at the beginning of His start into His NT ministry. He
said, "Man shall not live by bread alone BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT
PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD."
   Now, if you believe as I do (and some readers may not) EVERY
WORD of God is from Genesis to Revelation today.  Pretty simple
to understand I maintain.  All this argument about Old and New
Covenants, things repeated or not in the NT, is all really
washed away, carry out to sea, drowned in the depths of the deep
blue ocean, by those few simple words that can now be found in
BOTH the Old and the New - mankind is to live by EVERY WORD of
God.  So things do not necessarily have to be repeated in the
New Testament before we are to obey them and live by them.  
   For the readers who are somewhat unsure about just HOW we are
to go about figuring what laws from Genesis to Revelation are for
us to live by today (for there were indeed many given to ancient
Israel), then I have a two part study to help solve many of
the issues. It can be sent e-mail upon request. Just ask for the
studies called, "Living by Every Word."

   The WCG leaders claim the Sabbath commandment is not
specifically repeated in the NT.  Oh, yes it is.  The NT says it
still remains for the people of God.
   The Sabbath command is repeated in the NT in the sense of
telling us it is still for the people of God to keep in the
present continuous age of grace.  It is found in the
Jewish book of the NT - the book of Hebrews. Turn to chapter 4
and see it for yourself in verse 9. Some of the modern version
may cover it over and hide it. Even the KJV translation tried to
do that, but at least some Bibles put a note in the margin as to
how the literal Greek reads. The Greek Interlinears will render
it: "Then REMAINS a SABBATISMOS to the people of God."  The word
"sabbatismos" is only used once in the NT - here in this verse.
As on Bible Commentator once said, "it seems that Paul invented
this word."  The main point is this word literally means: keeping
Sabbath, or Sabbath keeping.  The Greek word for "remains" is in
the PRESENT continuous tense - there remains presently and
continuously, a Sabbath keeping for the people of God.
   Yes, as the context shows, Paul is using the 7th day rest as a
TYPE of the Eternal rest in Christ and Kingdom rest to come, but
he argues because of those analogies which the 7th day
represents, it is proof that present day Sabbath keeping by the
children of God continues.  He goes on to say that those who have
entered the rest of God will refrain from his work (carnality as
to spiritual rest, physical secular work as to literal 7th
day rest) as God did from His.
   This passage is covered in-depth by Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi in
his world famous book called "From Sabbath to Sunday."
   
WORLDWIDE NEWS - JANUARY 10TH 1995

   ".......Under the old covenant, tithing was required for the
support of the old covenant ministers.......The Israelites were
commanded to give 10 percent under the old covenant.......How
much more joyfully should we give to God under the new
covenant?.......Should we give less than a tithe, when the
blessing we have are so much more glorious than those of the
Israelites?.......Under the new covenant the tithe is voluntary,
done out of love and allegiance to Jesus Christ.......Are you
putting your money where your heart is?......."

MY ANSWER

   Aaahhh, just the same reasoning as used by the BCG I mentioned
earlier. The inference is that under the OT tithing was a harsh,
strict, heartless, cold written law. We are not to be governed by
cold laws written down on some parchment, but a tingle of love
up and down the spine, then we will give to God at least 10% if
not more, so they argue.
   The attitude is: I do not want God telling me in written laws
how much I should give back to Him. I want to give to Him because
I want to do it, not because He tells me to do it.
   Tkach also wrote in this section: "The new covenant doesn't
set a new percentage, but it requires greater sacrifice."  
   The WCG do not want to loose the tithes from their members -
it is their bread and butter for most of them, especially those
on the top. If the members could give money as they saw fit and
when they thought they were able, then I guarantee you would see
many WCG ministers out looking for work or with much smaller
pay-checks. So old covenant tithing of at least 10% is carefully
guarded to teach it should be continued but under the roof of a
kind of love and not written law.  It should be done voluntary
they say. This implies that it was forced on them under the OT
and done without love.
   NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH!!

   You cannot find in the OT any DEATH penalty for NOT tithing! 
You cannot find under the OT that people would be hired by the
state to "check up" on you to see that you were tithing
correctly.  There was no secret IRS men coming around in the
night to peek at your books, to see if you were faithfully
tithing.
   
   OT TITHING WAS DONE VOLUNTARY!

   A theme runs through Tkach's expose on this subject. It is
hidden very surreptitiously, discreetly, camouflaged, and that is
this:  The OT was harsh, cold, feelingless, heartless, and no
emotional love. Physical spiritless people doing physical
works forced on them by a harsh God who liked to write down His
laws with fire, smoke and brimstone.  A God that showed little
grace or mercy. He sure did not require the people to serve Him
out of love and allegiance. The NT gives us the motivation to
serve God out of love and our own motivation to obey Him as we
are led by the Spirit, apart from any written list of laws.

   This is also the ANTITHESIS of the truth!  Grace and love is
emphasized under the OT, but law and commandment keeping is
stressed powerfully also.  Law and commandments were emphasized
under the OT, but GRACE was abundant also!  A classic example is
that of David, a man after God's own heart.  David was a man of a
number of HUGE sins, yet he obtained grace and mercy because he
loved and obeyed the commandments of God. You need to read
carefully and slowly Ps.119.  He said that rivers of water ran
down his face because people did not keep the laws of the Lord.
This was a man after God's own heart remember. Do you suppose
David had a heart very much like that of God's ?

   Now, let me show you a few of the OT verses that may just
"blow you away" as they say. Turn to them, read them in your own
Bible, mark them. They have been there for centuries. I did not
secretly come and put them in your Bible last night while you
were sleeping.

   "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord: And you shall
LOVE THE LORD THY GOD WITH ALL THINE HEART, AND WITH ALL THY
SOUL, AND WITH ALL THY MIGHT. And these words, which I command
you this day, shall BE IN YOUR HEART" (Deut.6:4-6).

   "CIRCUMCISE THEREFORE THE FORESKIN OF YOUR HEART, and be no
more stiffnecked" (Deut.10:6).

   "And the Lord thy God will CIRCUMCISE THINE HEART, and the
heart of thy seed, to LOVE the Lord thy God with ALL THINE HEART,
AND WITH ALL THY SOUL, that you may live" (Deut.30:6).

   If you thought circumcision of the heart was only for the NT,
if you thought loving God with all your heart and life was only
for the NT, then WELCOME TO THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER!  The PLAIN
TRUTH if you will!  As Solomon was inspired to say, "There is
nothing new under the sun."  And when this most wise man had
fully contemplated and experimented with physical life, his last
but one sentence in Ecclesiastes was: "Let us hear the conclusion
of the whole matter: FEAR GOD, AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: for
this is the WHOLE of man."

   Tkach says concerning tithing, "The new covenant doesn't set a
new percentage, but it requires greater sacrifice."
   Greater sacrifice in what way I ask? Is it greater to give
money to God's work today than sheep, goats, pigeons, grain etc.
as most did under the OT?  We today mainly live in a paper money
society, the ancient Israelites lived mainly in an agricultural
society. Which is more sacrificial when tithing?  I think the
farmer who lives off the land could present a case just as strong
as the city dweller who lives by paper money.
   Were those under the OT bound by the law to give only so much
and no more? I've never found a Scripture to confirm that idea.
They had to tithe of their increase under the OT and give
OFFERINGS also!  They could give as much as they wanted, as much
as they were blessed, as much as their circumstances allowed
after meeting all their other duties for family and the poor.
They could give above 10% as much as their heart led them to give
and as much as their heart was in the work of the Lord. There was
NO LIMITATIONS! 
   So what's all this about the NT requiring GREATER sacrifice in
the context of tithing?
   Another clever psychological mind play by Joseph Tkach Sr. Now
that he is loosing the requirements of the Sabbath command in the
letter of the law, I guess many in the WCG should now be able to
obtain MORE MONEY to put in the treasury of the WCG to pay the
ministers for their full time jobs which in part is being used to
discover where God's laws do not apply under the NT.
   Very clever, if it was not so Satanic.

TO BE CONTINUED 

First written in April 1995. Edited and revised, August 1998