Monday, August 17, 2026

CHRIST'S COMING AND THE "SECXRET" RAPTURE?

 

THE SECRET RAPTURE AND CHRIST'S COMING! 

                                
Thee topic of Christ's return has been for the past 150 years one
of the major subjects of interest and debate by theologians and
"fundamental" Christianity. There are many verses in the New
Testament that speak of Christ to come, His coming again, His
presence, His return. Do these verses show that He will bodily,
literally - at one specific event - come, return to this earth?

                                    
                                                                  by
                                    
                                                    Keith Hunt
                                    
  
  
                                   
     There are basically two teachings regarding the coming of
Christ.
                                     
     1.Christ will not bodily return but has returned already
through the coming of the Holy Spirit into individual lives.
                                      
     2.Christ will return literally, bodily, at one specific time
in the future.
                                     
     Those that teach that Christ will bodily return are not in
complete agreement as to whether He will stand on the earth at
that time or return to heaven. Or will it be a secret return to
catch away the saints for 3-1/2 or 7 years (while the great
tribulation takes place) and then return visibly?
                                     
     By searching the scriptures line upon line, here a little,
there a little (Isaiah 2:10) and putting them together and with
the help of God's Spirit (John 16:13), we can come to know the
truth.
                                      
     INSTRUCTIONS:
  
     Following you will find a scripture reference, a set of
questions and a set of notes on the verses sighted. We recommend
you read the scripture carefully and the context in which it is
found, thinking through each of the questions listed. We
recommend you mark your Bible freely and make notes in the
margin. Further study helps could be Strong's Exhaustive
Concordance and Nave's Topical Bible. We suggest you read over
notes on the questions only after you have given some thought to
them yourself. We want you to think for yourself and believe us
only when you can see it supported by the Bible.
     
     CHRIST SAID "I WILL COME AGAIN"
  
     John 13:33, 14:1-2
     Did Christ tell His disciples that He must leave them? 
     
     Acts 3:21
     Where did Christ go to? Is not verse 20 showing it is 
     Jesus that Peter is talking about?
     
     Hebrews 4:14
     Where did Paul say Christ went to? 
     
     Acts 2:29-36
     Did Peter say specifically where Christ is now - note verse 
     33.
     
Note:
     Jesus said He must leave this earth, and He ascended to
heaven to sit on the right hand of the Father.
  
     John 14:1-3
     Did Christ promise He would "come again'? See also Mat.     

     24:42-414, 25:13; Luke 18:8; Acts 1:11.
     Were the disciples told again (at the ascension of Christ   

     into heaven) that Jesus would return?
  
     Acts 3:12-21
     Did Peter in his second recorded sermon bodily proclaim 
     that the heavens had only received Christ until a certain 
     time and then He would be sent back?      
  
     1Pet. 1:7, 13; 4:13, 5:4; 2Pet. 1:16
     Did Peter continue to preach the "coming of Christ"?
  
Note: 
     The books of first and second Peter were written some 30
years after Peter gave his second sermon of Acts 3.
  
     Jam. 5:7,8
     Did the apostle James write about the coming of the Lord"?
  
     1John 2:28; 3:2
     Did not John also talk about "His coming"? Who is John 
     speaking about here? Read Chapter 2: 21-28.
  
     Jude 14
     Is Jude proclaiming the coming of the Lord?
  
     Rev. 22:12,20
     In the last chapter of the Bible is Christ still telling us 
     He will come?
  
Note: 
     The book of Revelation was the last book of the Bible to be
written (around 90-100 A.D.). If you have a red letter edition
you will notice that verse 12 and "surely I come quickly" in
verse 20 are in red - signifying these are the words of Christ.
     The Apostle Paul also preached and wrote much about the
promise Jesus gave us that he would "come again," some of the
passages are 1Cor. 1: '7, 4:5; 15:23; Col. 3:4; 1Thes. 1:10;
2:19; Tit. 2:12; Heb. 9:28.
     It does not make sense that the apostles of the New
Testament would, years after the coming of the Holy Spirit on the
day of Pentecost, continue to preach and write about the coming
of Christ as an event that had not yet happened and that they
looked forward to, if in fact Christ had returned via the Holy
Spirit.
  
     FALSE TEACHING
  
     Mat. 24:26; Mark 13:21
     Did Jesus warn that some would claim He had already 
     come before His true return would take place?
  
     2 Thes. 2:1-2. 
     Did false teachers proclaim that very idea in the life time 
     of the apostle Paul?
  
Note: 
     The King James rendering "is at hand" in verse 2 is
misleading. The Greek word is in the perfect tense, which
signifies an action done in the past and its effect existing in
the present. The interlinear Greek-English New Testament by
G.R.Berry renders this word, "is present." See also some other
translations, such as the Amplified Bible or the New
International Version.
                       
     2 Peter 3:1-4
     Did Peter prophecy that in the last days people would 
     scoff at the teachings of Christ's return?
  
Note:
     Not only do the Bible agnostics ridicule the idea that
Christ will return, that He will "come again" but a large portion
of Christendom dose not preach or believe it either.
  
     THE SIGNS CHRIST GAVE
  
     Mat. 24:30; 26:64; Luke 21:27; Rev. 1:7 
     When Christ "comes again" will it be with clouds?
  
     Mat. 16:27; 24:30-31; 25:31; 2 Thes. 1:7
     Will angels accompany Christ at His coming?
  
     Mat. 24:27.
     Will the coming of the Lord be like lighting?
  
Note: 
     Lighting comes quickly, but it comes visibly. It shines for
all to see. In such a manner Jesus said His coming would be.
  
     1 Thes. 3:13; Jude:14
     Will the saints be with Christ at His return?
  
     Mat. 24:30-31; 1 Thes. 4:l-17; 1 Cor. 15:20-23.
     Do the saints come with Christ at His return because 
     the resurrection takes place at that time?
  
     Mat. 24:31; 1 Thes. 4:16.
     Will Christ descend from heaven quietly?
  
     1 Cor. 15:51-52
     Will the raising of the dead (the resurrection) and the     
     changing from mortal to immortality, for those living, take 
     place at the Last Trump?
  
     Rev. 11:15-19
     What happens when the 7th angel sounds? Is this a trumpet 
     blast (see Chapter 8:1-26)? Is Christ to have great power? 
     Are the dead to be judged and rewarded at this time? Is the 
     heaven of God to become visible?
  
Note: 
     The 7th angel is the 7th trumpet. There are only seven
trumpet blasts in the book of Revelation. We have seen that Paul
said it was at the last trump that the resurrection would take
place and Christ would return.
     Some would place great emphasis on the Greek words used for
"come" - "presence" - "appear" as used in connection with
Christ's return. The truth is these Greek words by themselves do
not prove or disprove that Jesus will return bodily at some
specific time, but the context in which these words are used does
show us what the coming of Christ will be like.
     We have seen from the foregoing scriptures that the coming
of Christ will be accompanied by clouds, angels, saints,
lighting, fire and a trumpet sound.
  
     Can it be said that the ever presence of the Holy Spirit or
the presence of Christ today via the Holy Spirit in the minds of
Christians is accompanied with clouds, lightning, fire or a
trumpet sound from heaven?'
     When a sinner repents and accepts Christ into his life, when
the Holy Spirit is given to such an individual upon baptism and
the laying on of' hands, do the heavens open to show God's
throne? Do the nations of the earth mourn? Do they see Christ in
the clouds? Are people caught up into the air to be with Christ?
NO!
     There is only one way to understand those scriptures we have
studied - they mean what they say and they say what they mean.
Those scriptures will literally come to pass when Christ comes
again.
  
     CHRIST WILL COME VISIBLY
   
     Acts 1:6-12
     1.Were the disciples or saints with Christ at this time?
     2.Was Jesus there with them bodily, in person?
     3.Did the disciples see Jesus ascend into heaven?
     4.Did a cloud receive Him out of their sight?
     5.Were angels present also at this time?
     6.Were the disciples told that Christ would return 
       in like manner - in similar fashion, as He went?
     7.Did Jesus ascend bodily from the mount called Olivet?
  
Note:
     The disciples were told that Jesus would return in like
manner - similar but not exactly as He left. We have already seen
that on His return He will come with much more glory and power -
many more angels and saints - much more noise and heavenly signs
than on His ascension to heaven, but He will return with the same
basic phenomena as He went - clouds, angels, disciples, bodily,
visibly seen.
  
     Rev. 1:7; Mat. 24:27
     Are we told again the Christ will come visibly? 
     Will every living person see Him?
  
Note: 
     The Greek word "astrape" used in Mat. 24:27 may mean the
lightning of thunderstorms or any brilliant illumination. Now
what light comes out of the east and shines unto the west? The
sun does!  Can we see the sun?
     Yes. Christ's presence now is like the sun in full strength
(Rev. 1:16). Jesus went on to say in Mat. 24:30 that all tribes
or nations of the earth would see Him on His return.
     The expression "and they also which pierced him" in Rev. 1:7
does not necessarily mean that one Roman soldier who literally
pierced Jesus' side will see Him at this time, or that the Jews
who were living then will be alive at His coming. It probably
refers to the whole human family, you and me. Our sins took his
life. It could be possible that this refers to the last
generation of Jews, the house of David, who will, upon seeing
Him, acknowledge that He is their saviour (Zech. 12: 9-14). The
main point of Rev. 1:7 is to show that all who are alive when He
returns will be able to see Him.
  
     THE MOUNT OF OLIVES
  
     Act 1:12
     Did the ascension of Christ to heaven take place on the     
     mount called Olivet?
   
     Zech. 14:1-14; Rev. 14:1-14
     1.Do both these passages show that the "Lord" - "a Lamb" 
       will stand with  His  feet on the Mount of Olives?
     2.Is it at this time when Christ will fight against all     
       nations?
     3.Those that are with Christ at this time, are they called  
       Firstfruits?
          
Note: 
     Christians of all ages are called Firstfruits (Jam. 1:18) of
God's creation. Paul has already instructed us (1 Cor. 15:20-23;
1 Thes. 14:13-17) that true Christians will be with Christ (via a
resurrection or instantaneous change) at His coming. Job was a
servant of God. He is one of the Firstfruits. He knew he would be
in the resurrection and that his Redeemer (Christ) would at that
time stand on the earth.
     Yes, Christ will descend to and stand on the very mount that
He ascended from over 1900 years ago - the Mount of Olivet near
Jerusalem.
  
     CAN WE KNOW THE EXACT TIME OF CHRIST'S COMING?
  
     Luke 21:24-35
     1.Will God intervene in the affairs of this world with      
       supernatural power before Christ's return?
     2.Are we Christians told to take heed, be watchful so the   
       day of His return does not come on us unexpectedly?
     3.Will the world as a whole be expecting Christ's return?
     
     Mat. 24:37-39
     1.To what period in history did Jesus compare His return?
     2.Did the people of Noah's day really expect God's          
       supernatural intervention?
     3.Will people today expect God's intervention and Christ's  
       coming?
     
     Luke 21:36; Mat. 25:13
     1.What did Christ tell His disciples to do?
     2.Why?
     
Note: 
     These utterances of Jesus have often been taken to say only
the disciples of Christ's day would not know the day or the hour
of His return, but we today can know. This is not true.
     Notice: Luke 12:40-48. Jesus had said we must be ready -
watchful, for He would come when we least expect it. Peter
specifically asked Jesus if what He said only applied to them, of
that generation, or to all. Christ plainly went on to show it
applied especially to those alive when He comes.
     It is plain then that those of the generation at His coming
would not know the day or hour.
     Though we cannot know the day of His return, Jesus did give
us signs to watch for, that would tell us His coming is near.
     These signs are mainly contained in Mat. 24; Mark 13; Luke
21 and the book of Revelation.
  
     WHEN CHRIST WILL NOT RETURN
  
     A concept on Christ's return is that He will come after a
thousand years of peace and harmony on this earth has expired.
That man will bring about peace among all nations, that man will
by his own power, bring UTOPIA to this earth and then Christ will
return.
  
     Act 3:21
     What does Peter tell us about the restoration of all things?
     Must Christ be sent back to restore order and peace?
  
     Isa. 33:5-9
     When the Lord dwells in Zion what condition will the earth  
     be in?
  
     Rev. 19:11-21
     Is Christ coming to a world that is at peace - that will    
     welcome Him with open loving arms, or is He not coming to   
     fight and destroy those that destroy the earth,  and to rule
     all nations?
  
     Rev. 5:6-10; 20:1-6
     1.Will the saints of God reign with Christ a thousand years?
     2.Where will they reign?
     3.When is Satan chained up before or after the 1,000 years?
     4.Those that reign with Christ, are they in the first       
       resurrection?
     
Note: 
     The first resurrection takes place at the coming of Christ,
then these immortal saints reign with Christ for a 1,000 year
period. It is one, two, three - Christ's coming, the
resurrection, the 1,000 year reign. Christ does not come after a
millennium (1,000 years) of perfect human rule. He comes before
it. He comes to restore peace and harmony.
  
  
     THE SECRET RAPTURE???
  
     There is a popular doctrine amongst so-called "fundamental
religionists" called the "Rapture". The word "rapture" is nowhere
to be found in the Bible.
     Rapture comes from the word "rapere," meaning to seize (the
same word, incidentally, from which the word "rape" is taken).
The term rapture has come into common usage however, and is
applied to the statement of Paul that believers will be "caught
up....in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air......" 
(I Thes. 4:17). This catching up or rapture is said to be a
separate event from the second coming of Christ at the end of the
age.
  
     According to this teaching, Christ will return in two
separate events:
  
     (a)  First, He will come in the air before the tribulation
period and gather His own (the rapture) secretly (b)  At the
close of the tribulation period (which some say will be 3-1/2
years; others 7 years), He will come again, this time openly and
in glory (the revelation). Thus, the rapture is set in contrast
to the revelation and two second comings (or two phases of the
second coming) are taught.
     
     THE THIEF PASSAGES
  
     The "Thief" passages of the New Testament are the most used
and most heavily relied on texts to support the rapture. The
first phase of Christ's coming is taught to be quietly, as "a
thief in the night,"  whereas the second phase is taught to be
with power and glory.
  
     1 Thes. 4:16,17
     1.Is there any word here that Christ will come invisibly?
     2.Does He come quietly or with a great deal of noise?
     3.Where are the saints transported to - heaven, or just     
       above the earth?
     4.Would tens of thousands of saints still be visible to     
       others on the earth if they only go as high as the clouds?
     
     2 Pet. 3:10-12
     1.Does this "Day of the Lord" come as a thief?
     2.Is there quietness at this time or great noise?
     3.Shall we then understand "thief in the night" to mean -   
       secretly, quietly, invisibly, or as meaning unexpectedly?
     
     Mat. 24:37-44
     1.What specific day is Christ talking about?
     2.Did Christ say anything about coming invisibly or quietly?
     3.Are the words "secretly" - "quietly" - or "invisibly" used
       here?
     
Note: 
     Now, notice the "thief" section of Matthew 24:43. Let's read
the whole context. Begin with verse 26. If some say to you,
Christ has secretly come - that He is over here or He is over
there - Do NOT BELIEVE IT, for (v.27) the coming of Christ will
be like LIGHTNING - swift, bright and suddenly. Verse 29 - the
Tribulation and then (v.30) after that the Son of man comes in
clouds with great glory. He at this time (when He comes in glory,
after the tribulation not before, as the rapturists teach) sends
His angels with a trumpet sound (1 Thes. 4:16,17) to gather the
elect (Christians) unto Him. Yes, for where the carcass is, there
will the eagles be gathered together (v. 28). Christ has come and
received His disciples unto Himself; that where He is there they
may be also (John 14:3).
  
     Continue with verse 32. Christ says - be observant, just as
you can observe the times of the year by physical phenomena - be
observant, be ready for my return because you will not know the
exact day (v.36). As people in Noah's day did not know the exact
day of the flood, were not prepared for it.... even Noah did not
know the precise day....but he was prepared. So watch and be
ready for on that day my disciples will be resurrected to meet
with me (v. 36-44). The day of Christ's return will come on the
world like a thief breaks into a house, unexpectedly. Only to
those watching will it not be a surprise.
  
     The whole context of this passage shows that Christ is
talking about the literal day of His return. That day will be
AFTER the tribulation, and THEN the saints are gathered to Him by
the angels with a trumpet sound.
  
     Paul taught Christ's glorious visible return and the
gathering of the Saints to Him at that time (1 Cor. 15: 17-19,
22, 23, 50-53 and 1 Thes. 4:13-17).
  
     The '"Day of the Lord" (1 Thes. 5:2-3) - Christ's return
will come upon the world as a "thief in the night" but it will
NOT catch the true Christian unawares (verses 4-6).
  
     Christ is pictured as coming as a "thief" (Rev. 16:15).
Again we ask, does this mean He will return secretly, invisibly,
in clandestine fashion? That's a fair question, but here's
another question we must ponder concerning "thieves."
     When thieves rob a home, do they come invisibly?  No, not at
all.
     A thief usually comes at night when the household is away or
sleeping. He comes unaware to them, he catches them off guard,
surprises them. You never know when a thief is coming. If you did
then you would be prepared for him.
     Christ will not come invisibly, any more than a thief comes
invisibly. He will come unexpectedly though. No one will know the
day or hour that He will come.
     Jesus said: "Watch therefore, for you know not what hour
your Lord doth come, but know this, that if the goodman of the
house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have
watched and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Therefore be you also ready, for in such an hour as you think not
the Son of man cometh" (Mat.24:42-44).
  
     Jesus likened His coming to a "thief" in respect to the time
of His coming - a surprise!
  
     THE GREEK LANGUAGE
  
     Another argument used to teach the "two second comings" is
that the Greek language teaches it. One writer once wrote: "The
two phases of Christ's second coming are clearly distinguished in
the Greek. The 'parousia'.... is His coming FOR His
saints.....the 'apokalupsis' (the revealing, unveiling, making
manifest) is His coming WITH His saints".
  
     But is this true?
  
Note: 
     Such statements are either a deliberate falsehood, intended
to deceive, or come from a lack of study and research. All of the
various Greek words such as "Parousia" and "Apokalupsis" are used
interchangeably in regard to Christ's coming. A distinction of
two separate events was never intended by the writers of the New
Testament.
  
     This can be easily proven by taking a Greek concordance such
as Strong's and looking up all the places where the Greek words
"Parousia" and "Apokalupsis" are used.
  
     In Mat.24:37 we read of the "coming (Parousia) of the son of
man," while Luke's account of the same passage uses "Apokalupsis"
(when the son of man is revealed - Luke 17:26,30).
  
     In 2 Thess. 1:7-10 we read: "The Lord Jesus shall be
revealed (apokalupsis) from heaven with His mighty angels in
flaming fire, taking vengeance on them that know not God.... when
He shall come to be glorified in His saint." If the rapture had
taken place 7 or 3-1/2 years before this, the saints would have
already been glorified.
  
     Christians are pictured as "waiting" for the coming
(apokalupsis) of our Lord Jesus (1 Cor. 1:7)  If the Apokalupsis
is a separate coming - after the Parousia - how could Christians
be waiting for the Apokalupsis? According to this, they should
not be waiting on the Apokalupsis, for they would have already
been raptured a number of years earlier at the Parousia!
  
     Notice another scripture.
  
     2 Thes. 2:3-8. The Greek word used in v.8 for "coming" is
"Parousia". What will Christ do to "that wicked (one individual)
who has seated himself in the Temple of God, showing himself that
he is God" (verse 4)? Christ's coming to execute judgement on
this individual is His Parousia - His powerful coming.
     Notice this verse not only says that that wicked one will be
destroyed at the parousia of Christ, but it says His parousia
will be with brightness. Plainly, Christ's parousia will not be
an invisible, secret event at all.
  
     GREAT TRIBULATION AND PROTECTION
  
     There is one last element of the "rapture" teaching that
needs studying. The rapturists say that a great tribulation will
come on the earth in the last days, but Christians will be spared
this trouble because Christ will protect them by bringing them
all up to heaven. A mere recent theory - an adaptation from the
rapture doctrine is that God will grant protection for His people
by sending them all into a central location on this earth where
they will all be housed and fed until Christ returns.
  
     Dan. 12:1-3; Jer. 30:7
     Did both Daniel and Jeremiah foretell of one supreme time of
     trouble that would be like no other?
     Does Daniel show that a resurrection takes place around this
     same time?      
     Will the wise shine as the sun and stars?
  
     Mat.24:21
     Did Christ also mention this Great Tribulation, 
     unequalled in all earth history?
  
Note:
     The Bible does speak of a coming tribulation - let's see if
we can find out approximately when this tribulation is to come.
  
     Mat. 24:29-31
     Can you find three main events shown to us in these verses?
  
Note: 
     Christ gives us a sequence of 3 events to occur before the
resurrection of the saints (v.31). These three events are:
     1. tribulation
     2. heavenly signs
     3. Christ's return
     
     Mat.24:15-26; Luke 21:20-24
     What does Christ tell His followers in Judea to do when they
     see a particular "abomination" standing in the holy place   
     (Jerusalem)  and the city of Jerusalem encompassed about by 
     armies? 
     Will some try to persuade true Christians at that time 
     into believing Jesus has returned?
  
Note: 
     If there were to be a "secret rapture" to heaven, Christ's
followers would not have to be physically fleeing from Jerusalem
or concerned about either winter, the Sabbath day or armies.
     If all true Christians have been "raptured away" they would
not have to be concerned about being led astray (as Jesus warned
them) into believing Christ was over in some desert spot
somewhere. If they had been raptured they would already be with
Christ.
  
     Luke 21:11-17
     Before the great signs in heaven did Jesus forecast 
     a time of great persecution on His true followers?
     Will some of His followers be put to death?
  
Note: 
     We have seen (Mat.24) that the heavenly signs occur after
the tribulation and Christ makes it very plain here in Luke that
before the signs of heaven take place a persecution (even into
death for some) of His servants will occur. The tribulation that
comes before the heavenly signs includes persecution of true
Christians. But if all Christians have been raptured away to
heaven no persecution could come on them.
  
     Rev. 6:9-7
     What does the fifth seal tell us must happen to some 
     of God's servants (note v. 11)?
     What makes up the next seal, the sixth?
     Are these the same events that we have seen recorded 
     in Mat. 24 and Luke 21?
  
     John 17:15
     Did Jesus ever pray that His followers would be "raptured"  
     out of this world?
     What did Jesus ask the Father to do?
  
     Luke 21:36
     Will some be granted protection from this time of trouble?  

     Rev. 3:7-11
     Are the Christians represented here promised protection? Is 
     the place of protection stated?
  
Note:
     Some say this passage of scripture typifies those Christians
who will be given protection during the great tribulation - who
will "escape all these things that shall come to pass..." (Luke
21:36). That may be true, but there is nothing in this passage to
say those Christians will be "raptured" to heaven or transported
to some central hide-out location on this earth. Daniel was
protected by God while in the lions den while in the empire of
Babylon (Dan. 6:16-24). Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego were
protected while in the fiery furnace while being subjected to
bondage in Babylon (Dan. 3:8-29).
     God is able to protect any of His servants whatever
situation and place they are in. He is able to protect them right
where they are, in their area of the world.
  
     Rev. 12:10-17
     What is the prophetic time setting for this prophecy? Note  
     verse 10.
     Did some overcomers have to die?
     Is the woman persecuted by the dragon?
     Does this passage say the woman was raptured to heaven or   
     that she went to only one specific location on this earth?
     What does God use to help the woman?
     Does the dragon manage to make war with the woman's 
     remnant seed?
  
Note:
     A "woman" in prophecy symbolizes a church (see 2 Cor.
11:1-2; Eph. 5:23-29). The "dragon" is Satan (Rev. 12:9). "'The
wings of a great eagle" represent protection from God (see Ex.
19:1-4). Water as a flood can symbolize people, multitudes,
nations (Rev. 17:15). Whatever safety or protection is given here
to those accounted worthy to receive it (Luke 21:36) It is NOT
protection in heaven via a secret rapture, nor does it state the
woman will go to some specific location in only one particular
country on earth. Notice! The woman represents the church - world
wide, in every nation - true followers of Christ wherever they
be. So likewise the wilderness, the earth, that helps the woman
represents the whole world, the earth in Australia, the earth in
Argentina, the wilderness in Palestine, Switzerland, Russia. The
earth in Europe, Canada, the wilderness in the United States,
etc. If you are one of those accounted worthy to escape these
terrible times ahead, God is able to protect you right where you
are, in your particular part of the earth, in your wilderness.
     Some must suffer martyrdom, be put to death for following
Christ, but remember, nowhere does your Bible say martyrdom is a
sin. The apostles Peter, Paul, James, Stephen, and many others
suffered martyrdom. John and others died a natural death. They
will all be in the first resurrection.

     The greatest martyr of them all was the one who said "I will
come again" - Jesus Christ.

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WILL THE EARTH BE DESOLATE DURING THE AGE TO COME?

 

Will the Earth be Desolate?

Passages answered

           SCRIPTURES USED TO PROPOUND THE "DESOLATE EARTH"
                                  DURING THE 1,000 YEARS

                                              AN ANSWER

                                                       by

                                               Keith Hunt


JEREMIAH 25:30-31 
God will PLEAD with all nations - many WILL REPENT
(Jer.23:3-6; 16:14-21; Isa 25:7-9; 29:18-24) - the wicked who
will fight God, He will destroy.

EZEKIEL 9:1-6    
Is applied to the whole earth. If you read chap. 4:1,3 and chap.
9:8,9 you will see it applies ONLY to Israel and Judah, and   
dozens of other scriptures show us that not ALL of them will die.
           
ISAIAH 26:21     
This verse NOWHERE says every last single soul will be slain -
the whole context before and after disprove any such idea.

ZECHARIAH 14:12-14 
This only applies to the armies of the nations that come up
against Jerusalem to fight Christ. This chapter is one of the
greatest proofs against the "desolate earth" idea.

JEREMIAH 25:33     
This verse nowhere says every last single soul will be
slain - only there will be slain people all over the earth.
Isaiah was given the same prophecy, Isa.66:15-18. He was told the
slain of the Lord shall be many.

JEREMIAH 4:23-26   
This is not a prophecy against the earth AT LARGE but against
Judah and Jerusalem. See v. 5, 6, 10, 14, 16, 22. v. 20 says "the
whole land" yes, land of Judah. v. 23 the Hebrew word translated
"earth" can also be translated "land." The Amplified Bible
renders it "land" as in v. 20. v. 27 there will not be a
full destruction.

MISAPPLIED SCRIPTURES OF THE OLD TESTAMENT

ISAIAH 24:1-6   
This is used by Ellen G. White in her book "The Great
Controversy." Is this a prophecy for the future? Yes indeed. And
so are chapters 25; 26 and 27. Verse 6 a curse devours the earth
- the inhabitants are burned, but look there are more words, "AND
FEW MEN LEFT." Mrs. White didn't see it. She forgot to put it in
her book - she ended with a full stop after "burned."  See the
chapter "Desolate Earth" in the book "The Great Controversy."

ZECHARIAH 14:5    
Used to refer to the new heavens and earth.
But v.1 tells you it is referring to "the day of the Lord" -
Christ's second return. And v.10-21 could not be in the new
earth.

ISAIAH 60:18    
Applied to the new earth - but it is a prophecy for Jacob
(Israel) see chap.59:20. v. 12 could not be in the new
earth.

ISAIAH 65:21,22 
Applied to new earth - but v.20,23 could not be in the new earth
- for there will be no death, pain or curses in the new earth
(Rev. 21:4).
This section of scripture takes place JUST BEFORE the new heavens
and earth - it is the same time as Rev.20:11-15.

ISAIAH 35:1 
Is again applied to the new earth - but v.5,6 will not take place
on the new earth. There will be only glorified saints on it.

ISAIAH 11:6,9   
In the book "The Great Controversy" this scripture is applied to
the new earth - but notice there are LITTLE CHILDREN and v.8
SUCKING CHILDREN AND WEANED CHILDREN. Bearing and rearing
children will not be in the new earth. Verses 10-16 and chap.12
also go on to describe what will happen "in that day."
This will not happen on the new earth but when Christ returns the
second time.

MISUNDERSTOOD NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES

MATTHEW 13:37-41   
Christ will START the harvest at His return with the battle of
Armageddon and will continue it through the 1,000
years (Isa. 66:15-24).

24:36-44   
This is used to prove "the desolate earth." Christ is using
Noah's example only to show that His coming will be
UNEXPECTED. They will still be having meals and public meetings,
marrying, working, etc. right up to the day of Christ's return.
They won't be expecting it. In verses 40-42 Christ explains to
His followers to watch - watch how you live (v.45-51). Be ready
in your way of living (v.44) for He will come unexpectedly. And
when He does come THE RESURRECTION takes place - those living
will be CHANGED TO IMMORTALITY, in the blink of an eye (I Cor.
15:51, 52) and CAUGHT UP to meet the Lord in the air (1 Thes.
4:16). Yes a Christian will be grinding at the flour mill
(working alongside a non-Christian) he will disappear suddenly -
gone to meet the Lord in the clouds - the carcase (Christ) has
arrived and the eagles (Christians) are gathered to it (Mt.
24:28) but the others are LEFT - not destroyed.

2 THESSALONIANS 1:7-9
Used to say every last person on earth is destroyed after the
resurrection. Is this a contradiction of Old Testament
prophecies? No! The scriptures cannot be broken.
Amplified Bible v.8, "To deal out retribution - chastisement and
vengeance - upon those who do not know or perceive or BECOME
ACQUAINTED WITH GOD, and (upon those) who ignore and REFUSE to
obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ."  Yes - vengeance on
those who "WILL NOT BECOME acquainted with God and who REFUSE to
obey God." Paul knew his Old Testament; he knew what the prophets
said about Christ's second coming. He knew that God said he would
PLEAD with all flesh (Jer.25:31, Isa.66:16) and he had read the
prophecies that said many would repent and acknowledge God in
that day (Jer.16:14-21; 23:5,6; Isa.25:7; 2:1-4).
LOOK! Notice v.10. The first half talks about the saints -
Christians - and Christ being admired because of the saints being
glorified - made immortal. (I Cor. 15; 1 Thes 4:16). AND Christ
will be ADMIRED by all them that BELIEVE IN THAT DAY.        
Yes. Paul understood his Old Testament, he knew the wicked who
refuse to obey God would fight Christ at His return (Zech.14) but
he also knew many at that day would repent - admire - and
acknowledge Christ.
Read Zech. 12:1-14; 13:1-6. God fights the nations at Jerusalem -
Judah is strong (v.6-9 and v.10-14; 13:1-6). God pours out grace
- salvation on the Jews - they will see the one they crucified -
they will cry - they will no loner reject their Savior.

2 THESSALONIANS  2:8
Used for ALL wicked destroyed. Read v.3 and 4. Paul is telling us
a prophecy - that before Christ returns there will come ONE man -
a great false prophet - able to do great things, with satanic
power - signs and lying wonders (v.9).
Margin reference takes use to Dan.7:25; Rev.13:11. Other verses
are Rev.13:13-14; 19:20. These all tell us, about ONE great false
prophet that Christ will destroy at His coming.
John also tells us about ONE supreme anti-Christ to come. I John
2:18 Christ will not return until he - the anti-Christ, false
prophet, man of sin is revealed(v. 6) and then shall THAT WICKED
be consumed and destroyed by Christ (Rev. 19:20).

1 THESSALONIANS 4:16-17 
Used to say we go to heaven at Christ's return.
In verse 14, Paul is telling us - look Christ is going to bring
the saints WITH HIM - to this earth (Paul knew Christ was going
to again put His feet on this earth - he had read Zech.14; Job
19:25-26). For - v.15, Paul now explains how Christ will do it.
Through the resurrection and instantaneous change of those
living. Together we are caught up ONLY TO THE CLOUDS - in the air
- and yes we will then be with the Lord - but the question
is - where will the Lord go from there - this scripture does not
say. We must look to other scriptures to tell us.

JOHN 14:1-3     
Used to say we go to the mansions in heaven, when Christ returns.
v.2, father's house is the kingdom of Go d -the family of God.
And there are many abodes - rooms - mansions for us to have one
(the physical temple at Jerusalem had an inner court and around
it were many small rooms for the priests to abide in).
Christ said "I go" (he ascended to heaven) to prepare a place for
you (He is now our high priest in the heavenly temple interceding
for us).

Notice v.3 "...I will come again and receive you unto myself..."
Where will He receive us - Christ inspired Paul to tell us - 1
Thes. 4:16-17 - in the clouds. "...That where I am..." When he
receives us and comes again. "...you may be also". Yes, we will
be with Christ as Paul said from that time forth. We meet Him -
unite with Him - He receives us to Himself IN THE CLOUDS - we
shall stay with Him forever, BUT where will He be - that is the
question.
Looks Christ knew His Old Testament He inspired it! He KNEW that
God's house (God's kingdom) was at His second return going to be
established on the earth. He had read - He inspired - Isa 2:1-4;
Mic.4:1-13.
He is interceding in heaven for us - so we can be counted worthy
to be in that kingdom of God's house when Christ returns to bring
it to this earth and to rule all nations.

REVELATION 22:11     
Used to say there are only two classes of people on earth when
Christ returns and wicked are destroyed. Read carefully - does it
say ANYTHING about what will HAPPEN to them.
No! There are no words of ANY KIND to indicate their fate.
In verse 12, Christ says He will give every man according to his
work - so if we DO DEDUCT that unrighteous are destroyed and the
righteous given eternal life - we still have TWO other classes of
people left - those who DO ACKNOWLEDGE Christ on that day 
(2 Thes. 1:10; Jer.16:14-21; 23:5,6, Isa.25:7; Zech.12:1-14;
13:1-6) and those who have not heard of Christ's glory (Isa.
66:19; 2:1-4).
This verse cannot contradict the dozens of Old Testament
scriptures that show Christ will come to set up His government on
this earth at Jerusalem. And as a mustard seed it will grow until
all peoples, tongues, and nations will come under its rule,
guidance and protection.

CHRIST'S FIRST AND SECOND ADVENT IN ONE CHAPTER

ISAIAH 61  
First read Lk.4:16-20,21. Christ reads from the 61st chapter of
Isaiah, verse 1 and PART OF verse 2. He stopped reading in the
middle of verse 2 and closed the book. Why? Because only that
part of the chapter is about his first advent--the rest of the
chapter is a prophecy on His second advent. Read it carefully -
it can only be DURING the 1,000 years.

CHRIST'S RETURN - CONCLUSION

After READING and STUDYING all the foregoing Biblical passages -
after reading EVERY WORD written by the Prophets from Isaiah to
Malachi - God's teaching on this doctrine is plain:

1. Christ will literally return.

2. He will come to the Mount of Olives - His feet WILL touch this

earth.

3. The nations who oppose Him on his return He will destroy.

4. He will sit on the literal throne of David 

5. Jerusalem will become the capital of the world. 

6. Israel and Judah will be reunited and David will be
resurrected to be their king under Christ.

7. Israel and Judah will blossom as a beautiful garden.

8. Christ's kingdom will cover the whole earth.

9. God's law and word will go forth from Jerusalem - all nations
will come and worship God.

10. Those people and nations who have not heard of God's fame
will hear.

11. Many will acknowledge God when Christ returns - they shall
live on into the 1,000 year reign of Christ.

12. People will marry during  Christ's reign - children will be
born.

13. There will be no more wars - all animals will be tame - no
more destroying - only peace.

14. Sickness, crippling diseases, blindness, etc. All be no more.

15. Spiritual blindness and paganism will be removed - salvation
will be offered to every single soul.

The NEW TESTAMENT teaching on the return of Christ and the
Kingdom can only be understood when we understand and BELIEVE
what God tells us about it in the Old Testament. Lk. 24:25-27.

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WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON? WILL ONE MAN RULE THE WORLD?

 

What in the World is Going On?

When One man Rules the World!

              
From the book by David Jeremiah


FIVE

WHEN ONE MAN RULES THE WORLD

COMMENT:

David Jeremiah devotes his next sign to the man that he claims
will rule the world. 
He goes off again about the chaotic world it will be at the end
times and "the Rapture of the church will depopulate much of the
planet. As many as 70 million people could suddenly disappear
from our nation alone." (the USA he means - page 142).
Of course this is NOT going to happen for the "secret rapture" is
as false a doctrine as you could have.

Jeremiah is correct to point out that the word "antichrist" is
used FOUR times in the NT - 1 John 2:18,22; 4:3; and 2 John 7.
He is also correct that the antichrist is obvious against Christ,
or as the prefix "anti" means "instead of" or "inplace of." He
will be Satan's superman, "who persecutes, tortures, and kills
the people of God and leads the armies of the world into the
climatic Battle of Armageddon. He will be the most powerful
dictator the world has ever seen, making Caesar, Hitler, Mao,
Saddam seem weak and tame by comparison" (pages 142-143).

Jeremiah is also correct to point to 2 Thessalonians 2. He says
that if you Google "Who is Antichrist?" you get about 1.5 million
hits. "Some Websites post incredible long and detailed articles -
a sign of the extreme fascination generated by this sensational
subject" (page 143).

He shows that some had pamphlets out in the late 1930s and early
1940s trying to prove HITLER was the antichrist (page 143-146).

As Jeremiah goes on he begins to get the "Beast power" as an
Empire and what it did down through the ages (Rome and its
revivals) MIXED UP with the "man of sin" - the "antichrist" - who
is the FALSE PROPHET of Revelation. He gets mixed up with the
"political" ruler of the Beast power and the "false prophet"
RELIGIOUS man who will rule the "woman" church that RIDES the
Beast. As I've shown you in other studies on this Website, at the
end time, for the last 42 months of this age, there will be a
BEAST power in EUROPE - a HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, the 7th and last
resurrection of the Holy Roman Empire. It will have the most
popular church in the world, the one with over a BILLION members
worldwide, as its supreme religious power. The HEAD of that
church will be the "false prophet" of Revelation. But there will
be a CIVIC/POLITICAL/MILITARY side to this Empire. Yes of course,
for no Empire can rule unless it has political power and a strong
arm of military or police types to enforce its laws and dictates.
There will be a "beast man" - the political/military guy whom 10
of the Europe Holy Roman Empire nations will give their hand to,
to fight Christ on His return (Revelation 17:12-15).

The Protestant prophets often get all these factors of Daniel and
Revelation MIXED UP! They seem to have a very hard time
distinguishing the one from the other. I have given you a study
on this Website called "The Beasts of Daniel and Revelation" - it
will add up correctly for you, who and what is who and what. I
refer the reader to this study for the in-depth details of the
Beast Empire, the "beast man" and the "false prophet."

Certainly it is correct to say as Jeremiah does that this
antichrist or false prophet is the mouth of the Beast power that
"..was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies"
(Revelation 13:5) (page 147).

As Jeremiah goes on he continually gets the "religious" leader
and the "political" leader crossed over. The Protestant prophets
fail to see that the false prophet and the political beast man,
are NOT the same person. Hence many of the attributes Jeremiah
gives for the anti-christ actually belong to the political beast-
man. 
The political leader of the coming Holy Roman Empire is NOT the
religious leader, and the reverse is true - the religious false
prophet leader is not the political beast man of the Holy Roman
Empire to rise in Europe.
By mixing these two men up the Protestant prophets get a FALSE
picture of what the world scene in the Western world will be like
at the very end time or the last 42 months or 1260 days which
Revelation speaks about.

Of course the political leader - the beast man - will be DYNAMIC
and a strong political leader, one of the very best in the world
at this end time chapter of human history. Will he be somewhat
like Hitler in dynamics? Maybe so, maybe not so, for we must
remember he will not be acting alone. He will have a GREAT false
prophet - the anti-christ, with him, a religious man who can
perform miracles, like making fire come down from heaven, as
Revelation tells us. So the beast-man does not have to be as
dynamic as Hitler was in speeches and moving the people to unite
behind him. It is the false prophet who will be "front and
center" of the stage in the Western world. 

Now Jeremiah does have this correct about the antichrist:

"Daniel said of this world leader, 'He shall speak POMPOUS words
against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most
High, and shall intend to change times and law' (Daniel 7:25,
emphasis added). In his second letter to the Thessalonians, Paul
describes him as one 'who opposes and exalts himself above all
that is called God or that is worshipped, so that he sits as God
in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God'" (2
Thessalonians 2:4) (page 154).


David Jeremiah does correctly point you to Revelation 13 verses 5
and 7. This antichrist will make war with the saints, to overcome
some, and to continue for 42 months.

Then under the heading "The Program of the Coming World Ruler"
(starting on page 157) Jeremiah goes off into worn-out
fundamental Protestant prophets scenario of what will happen in
the last months of this age through the antichrist and Beast
power of Europe.

They (the fundamental prophets) tell you this Beast power and
antichrist will sign a peace treaty with the Jews in the Holy
Land, a 7 year treaty, which the beast man (which they think is
also the antichrist man) will break in the middle of this 7
years. Here is a new one for me, Jeremiah gives Revelation 13:3-4
as trying to teach this antichrist will be KILLED and "he will be
raised back to life by the power of Satan in a grotesque
counterfeit of the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (page 157).
And here's another one that has a little modern twist to it:
"After his death and satanic resurrection, the antichrist will
assassinate the leaders of three countries in the European Union,
and all other nations will immediately relinquish their power to
him. It is then that he will set himself up to be worshipped by
all the people of the world. Through his associate, the false
prophet (see how they get mixed up between these two guys - Keith
Hunt), the mark of the beast will be placed upon all those who
will follow him. Anyone who does not bear this mark will be
unable to buy or sell in the world's economy" (page 158).

Going along with the standard old fundamental prophets of the
last 100 years, Jeremiah gives the "temple" desecration idea: "In
a final act of rebellion against God, this vile person will set
himself up in Jerusalem and desecrate the rebuilt temple in what
is called the 'abomination of desolation.' He will then attempt
to annihilate every Jew on earth, thus sounding the first ominous
note in the prelude to the battle of Armageddon" (page 158).

I have spent much time in expounding to you in many studies that
this teaching is utterly a false teaching, as false as the
"secret rapture." Put the two together and you have this end time
scenario from another galaxy, so far out it is light years away
from the truths of Bible prophecy.

Now add another twist, Jeremiah quotes from a fellow called Gary
Frazier as a possible scenario:

"Somewhere at this moment there may be a young man growing to
maturity. He is in all likelihood a brooding, thoughtful young
man. Inside his heart, however, there is a hellish rage. It boils
like a caldron of molten lead. He hates God. He despises Jesus
Christ. He detests the Church. In his mind there is taking shape
the form of a dream of conquest. He will disingenuously present
himself as a friend of Christ and the Church. Yet ... He will,
once empowered, pour out hell itself onto this world. Can the
world produce such a prodigy? Hitler was once a little boy.
Stalin was a lad. Nero was a child. The tenderness of childhood
will be shaped by the devil into the terror of the antichrist."

This idea just given is the complete opposite as to how it will
play out in the reality of the end times. The truth of the matter
on end-time prophecy is FAR from what the Protestant prophets
want you to believe. They are deceived and they and the millions
of their followers will be caught up in their own deception, and
will be part of those killed, or come to full and deep REPENTANCE
before God, when they see the reality of the times and the fact
of them being so WRONG in so many ways concerning the true
theology of God and the truths of the Bible that will be shouted
to them NOW, and in the FUTURE, leading up to the last 42 months
of this age. 

The first main truth to remember is that Jesus said MANY would
come in His name and DECEIVE MANY!! It is there in Matthew 24. It
is the MANY, not the few, who are to be deceived by false
prophets and false teachers coming in the name of Christ, saying
that Jesus is indeed the Christ. The GREATEST church Satan the
Devil has used for 2,000 years is with us still today, it is
doing very well thank you. It boasts of having OVER a BILLION
members worldwide. It has most of its members believing its head
man is "God on earth" - "God in the flesh." It claims to be the
very true church of God, and everyone else is just its wayward
daughters who need to be brought back into the fold of the one
true church and the one head, descended from the apostle Peter.
This church and its head leader LOOK to be on Jesus' side. The
world at large respects this church and its leader. What people
forget, what many Christian leaders forget, is that the false
prophet of the Revelation, the very antichrist, will be so ONLY
AS people are led to understand by the Holy Spirit, that
deception comes in the "name of Christ." The greatest deception
is not Halloween (right up front and on its face of paganism) but
feasts like Easter and Christmas, that come in the name of
Christ. 

The political and religious scene at the end times, will be such
that the masses of the population of the Beast/Babylon Empire of
Europe, with a woman church riding her, will seem to be doing the
very WILL of God. It will say it is fighting all the evil and sin
in the Western world, and needs to rule the Western world (and
will have plans to try and rule the whole world). All in the West
that will not politically and religiously "get in line" with this
Beast power and its brand of "Christianity" will become its enemy
to destroy, hunt down, persecute and even kill.

This Europe Beast power will NOT be accepted by the Eastern
nations. They will have their own mighty military power, and
stand by watching Europe and the Western nations moving into its
power base smash-up, with Europe the Babylon Beast being
victorious. There will be only ONE power in the final days in the
West - the Holy Roman Empire of the Europe Beast. And it will
have a Christianity that claims its the one true church from the
apostle Peter. The middle ages - the dark ages - will be back in
style, but millions will never see the deception, they will
believe they are part of the WILL of God, and their false prophet
will teach them that it is so. On its face will be " right and
proper and peaceful Christianity" - it will NOT AT ALL be like
the Protestant prophets are telling you, like we have just been
reading. This last days, this last 42 months of this age, will be
SO DECEPTIVE as being "Christian" that Jesus said IF it was
possible (which it is not) even the VERY ELECT would be deceived.
That is also found in Matthew 24. 

The Protestant prophets and their followers will never see what
is going to hit them. They will be sitting back, taking no note
of this deception, which will lead them down the garden path, for
they will be in their comfort lazy-boy chair, waiting for the
"secret rapture" to take place, so they do not even have to think
about being deceived. When you are taught over and over again for
years and decades, that Jesus will come in secret and have you
disappear to heaven with Him, and that you will escape the last 7
years of this age, then you ain't going to be looking as to what
is DECEPTION! Why bother with studying your Bible in earnest to
find its truths, or to check up on what you hear as Christian
religion, by all the denomination of Christendom, when you will
be raptured away, and so you must be a true Christian anyway, for
only raptured Christians will be taken away to heaven. So you
must be okay for you will be raptured as you acknowledge Jesus as
the Christ and believe in the rapture. Do you see the circle of
the mind-set people are in. And because of that mind-set it will
be as Jesus said, deception so great that if it was possible even
the elect would be deceived.

There is MUCH to yet happen on this earth, and especially in the
Western world, to bring us to the time of the greatest deception
ever under the name of Christ. Europe must yet attain greater
heights, greater political and military powers, greater economic
power, and greater "Christian" religious power. Britain and the
USA must attain greater DECLINE! That has started but more
decline is yet needed, more sin and evil and corruption, is yet
needed on our nations. All of this is yet needed before the last
years of this age will come. There must come a HUGE shift,
politically, economically, religiously, and militarily, in the
West before the false prophet antichrist and the beast man, will
come on the world scene.

I do not know the time line God has set. I can only tell you it
will come to pass as I've disclosed to you. The teaching of last
days prophecy by the fundamental Protestant prophets is all false
doctrine. It is the BLIND leading the BLIND, and both shall fall
into the ditch.

You need to get your eyes in the Bible, search the Scriptures,
and find who is telling you the truths of the Lord.

Keith Hunt

ALL ABOUT-- BIBLICAL FASTING - Part Two

 

Biblical Fasting

Part Two

                          IS IT REALLY WITHOUT FOOD AND
                                       WITHOUT WATER ?

                                                         by
                                                  Keith Hunt

  Some are saying that fasting in the Bible may not have always
been without having any water or drink, maybe no food they say,
but not always without water.  So, I suppose the argument is, or
I suppose these people are trying to teach that when Christians
"fast" as Christians should do according to Jesus (for Jesus
said: "WHEN you fast" not "IF you fast"), they need not stop
drinking water.
  There are some today who doubt that anyone has fasted without
food and water for very long, before being at death's door.  Now,
if you believe the Bible is INSPIRED, then you will believe
Exodus 34 where it is written that Moses was up in a mountain
with the Lord for 40 days and forty nights and that "he did
neither eat bread nor drink water...." verse 28.
  It would seem that Elijah was able to do the same as Moses. See
1 Kings 19:7,8.
  Are we to imagine that Jesus Christ could not, and did not, do
the same as Moses and Elijah, in His fasting for 40 days and
nights?  See Matthew 4:2.  I say Christ was able and that He did
exactly what Moses and Elijah did, fasted for forty days and
forty nights WITHOUT food and water!
  I am certainly not implying or trying to teach that anyone on
earth day should try to do what these three men are recorded in
being able to do, go for forty days without food and water.  They
were in many ways special men, who no doubt were given special
strength from the Eternal to do something that no other men/women
have ever been recorded doing, fasting for forty days and forty
nights without food and water.  Most today could hardly make it
through four days without food or water. True, we do hear now and
again of some adult or even a child surviving in an earthquake,
trapped without food or water for 6,7,8,9 days......but most of
us going on a voluntary fast of no food or water could last that
long without serious side effects.

  Some want to call "heath fasting" a fast. That is, going on a
strict liquid diet for a week or two or more is to them a "fast."

And if looking at it only from what some doctor or health
practitioner or clinic want to interpret as a "fast," a liquid
fast, then so be it for them.  But as Christians who want to let
the Bible interpret itself as to what the Bible calls a "fast"
then we can ONLY have the Bible as our interpreter as to what is
fasting as taught in the Bible.
  Hence, we look up all the verses where the words "fast" or
"fasting" are used. We search the Scriptures and let the Word of
the Lord teach us about the meaning of "fast" as used in the
whole Word of God, the Bible.

  The word "fast" is used 41 times.  The word "fasted" is found
and used 15 times.  The word "fastest" is used one time.  We find
the word "fasting" used 17 times. And the word "fastings" is used
4 times.  All this from the KJV and Strong's Concordance of the
Bible.

  The VAST majority of times these words are used as words in a
verse relating that someone or some group or nation of people
simply fasted, period.  No other information is added. No other
definition is given as to what is fasting as used in these
majority of verses. We have only a FEW verses in the entire Bible
that nails down for us a Bible interpretation as to what is
"fasting" as used in the Word of God, the Bible.
  I will give you those verses very shortly.

  We can find that fasting in the Bible is often connected with
mourning, affliction, sorrow, anguish, and of course with
sackcloth and ashes.  Apart from sackcloth and ashes some would
argue that all the rest of the words connected with fasting could
be taken as MENTAL, within the mind, and of course that is true.
Hence Psalm 35:13 and the word "humble" or "afflicted" connected
with the soul or life in fasting could be mental more than
anything physical.
  But, there is really no way of "getting around" Psalm 109:24
which reads: "My knees are weak through fasting; and my flesh
faileth of fatness."  Now, I personally have done a "health" fast
(liquids only) a few times (once for 7 days) in my life time, and
I can tell you that after or in the third day of such a health
fast, the body is swept clean and the energy and engine of the
body just runs like a race horse. I never felt my knees weak at
any time. A health fast of various kinds of natural liquids and
juices does not make the knees go weak.  If you are basically in
good health, going on a water only fast for a few days will not
make your knees go weak.
  I submit that David's knees were weak through fasting BECAUSE
he was doing a Bible definition fast, a "spiritual" fast, a fast
WITHOUT food or water.  Actually the Bible is silent on any
so-called "health fast."  Just does not talk about it.  So, all
the passages that use the word "fast" or the others I gave above,

are only relating to us the only "fast" the Bible is concerned
with, the spiritual fast, or fasting for spiritual intent and
reasons. Hence, we are then back to having the Bible define for
us "fast" or "fasting."
  And here are the only TWO sections of Scripture using the word
"fast" that DEFINE for us the word "fast" as used in the Bible.

  "Go, gather together all the Jews.....and FAST you for me, and
neither EAT nor DRINK three days, night or day: and I also and my
maidens will FAST likewise......" (Esther 4:16).

  "So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast,
and put on sackcloth.....For word came unto the king of
Nineveh.....And he caused it to be proclaimed and published
through Nineveh....saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor
flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water....."
(Jonah 3:5-7).

  There it is.  The only two passages of the Holy Scriptures that
define for us "fast" as used in the Bible.  But, define the word
it does, very clearly fasting as used in the Bible was and is
always having no food and no water, no liquids.
                                       
  Oh, there is the argument that it is said of Jesus that "He was
hungry" after His forty days of fasting, for it is written, "He
was afterwards an hungred" (Mat.4:2 KJV).  They say,  "He was
hungry, hence had not ate any food for 40 days, but it does not
say, He was thirsty, so He probably did drink water during those
forty fasting days."

  Why does it leave out anything about "thirsting" after those
forty days?  Very simple.  When Jesus had determined to break the
fasting, after doing what Moses and Elijah had done for 40 days
and nights, He could have easily reached a water supply out in
those hills.  A nearby spring, a running brook, or a small
stream.  He no doubt had wandered by a few of them during those
40 days.  And coming off a fast of that length of time, water
would have been the first desire for the human body, and from a
stream it would have been obtained.  But good wholesome, full of
vitamins and minerals fresh baked brown bread.....well that just
was not behind the bush or desert tree, unless He commanded the
stones to turn into that great smelling wholesome stuff.  And
that is just what the Devil tempted Him to do, turn the stones
into loaves of bread.  But Jesus would control His power, and
wait till He was in the town with friends to eat food.  The water
would have already been there in the form of a stream or brook
for Him to enjoy, the bread not yet. And He would not misuse His
power to satisfy His hunger.
  
               TWO PASSAGES LEFT TO UNDERSTAND

  Some have seen two passages in the Gospels (one really as it is
one account of the same event recorded by both Matthew and Mark)
that they seem to think and believe teaches that fasting in the
Bible may not always mean you cannot drink water. So, I guess to
them, you can fast a spiritual fast by deleting only food but not
liquids.

  This passage we are here concerned with is found in Matthew
15:29-39 and Mark 8:1-10.
  We note some important points. (1) Jesus, His disciples, and
the multitude, were up in a mountain, Mat.15:29.  (2) It was also
a wilderness, Mat.15:33; Mark 8:4. (3) They all had been together
3 days, Mat.15:32; Mark 8:2.  (4) Some had come from far away,
Mark 8:3. (5) The disciples did have some food with them, for
Jesus asked them "how many loaves have YOU?"  And it was THEY who
answered Him what they had, Mat.15:34; Mark 8:5.

  We need to first use some natural logic.  The disciples of
Jesus did have some food, they did bring some along with them.
They were used to their Master going off into some wilderness
place and staying for a time in such a location, so they would
have learnt from experience to take along food for a few days at
least.  Would it not be reasonable to assume that at least some
of the multitude, which included women and children (Mat.15:38),
would also have brought some food and water with them, at least
for a day or two?  I suggest it was more than likely by many that
they so did.  We need to note CAREFULLY that in verse 32 of
Matthew's account and verse 2 of Mark's, we do not find such a
sentence as, "they continue with me now three days and have had
nothing to eat" or "for the three days they have continued with
me they have had nothing to eat." 
  This is important, because we can often read into words a
meaning that is not there at all.  In both Matthew's and Mark's
accounts of this event, the words "have nothing" is in the
PRESENT INDICATIVE tense.   Jesus was actually saying, "and have
presently nothing to eat" or "at this present continuous time
they have nothing to eat."
  Jesus did not say that they had nothing to eat for three days. 
We are frankly not told HOW LONG they had gone without food, only
that at the present time when Jesus was talking to the disciples
and for WHATEVER length of that present time was, the multitude
had not eaten food.
  Had some not eaten for three days? Maybe!  For it is quite
something to behold how the human body can go on fired up
adrenalin and excitement of some great spectacular event such as
they were observing and part of, that is, Jesus healing many and
doing fantastic miracles.  Many under such a situation would not
even be thinking about food, and not even water, I dare to say,
especially if you were someone who had brought with you a lame,
bind, dumb, or maimed person  etc. to be healed. You would have
been too preoccupied in getting them before Jesus to be healed.
  Well, whatever the case was, by the time Jesus spoken to His
disciples on the third day about food for the multitude, they had
presently been without food for a time period, not specifically
given to us, but long enough that if sent away without food, some
would have fainted by the way, for some were from afar, so Mark
tells us.
  Had they been also without water?  The accounts do not tell us,
but I think we can say with some reasonability, that being in the
wilderness water may have also been a problem, once whatever
supply brought with anyone had been used up.
  To argue that they all had water, but no food, is to argue
without proof, for the accounts clearly do not mention water at
all. It is just not talked about or commented on period. Hence to
argue either way, they had water or they did not have water is
speculative at best, given we say fasting can be understood as
only no food eating with water being allowed.  Then if we say, we
shall go with the Bible's interpretation in the two passages we
have already considered above, as to what is fasting, we then
would say Jesus by using the word "fasting" was telling us the
multitude for some length of time had been without both food and
water.

  Why was Jesus concerned with food for the multitude and water
is not mentioned? Again we could speculate, but it would only be
speculation, as the reason for no water mentioning is not given. 
But, once more looking at it from the human fellowship and host
politeness of Jesus' day and I would add, our time today, it is
the custom of a caring host, looking after people for some length
of time, to provide them with food before they depart.
Under this situation, of having to walk back home, and for some
that was a far distance, and not having food for above the normal
amount of time that humans eat food, Jesus classified it as
"fasting" and knew some would be weak in the knees, and probably
faint by the wayside before reaching their homes, hence as a good
host wanted to make sure they ate food to strengthen them for
their journey homeward.  
  Water is wonderful to break a fast, but solid food gives you
the needed sugar energy and fuel for the muscles to hold up and
sustain the body, when a possible long walk back home is having
to be undertaken.
  So, we see here, the emphasis in the two accounts is on FOOD,
and not on water, after fasting for some length of time.

                    A POSSIBLE EXCEPTION 

  The Bible often contains many BASIC rules or NORMS, and then
gives now and again, some EXCEPTION to the norm or rule.  Could
this account in Matthew and Mark be a possible exception to the
norm?   
  Yes, it is indeed a possibility!
  I say it MAY be possible, for once more let me repeat, we
cannot know for sure if the multitude had water to drink, either
brought with them, or from a stream, they were remember in the
mountain wilderness.  But, for the sake of the argument, we shall
say they did have access to water, but had used up any food they
had brought with them. So, IF that was the case, then Jesus uses
here the word "fasting" in a loose sense, a "food" fast,
possibly, as some "health" practitioners, health and diet books,
and people who often go on "juice" fasts, call their no food
intake, a "fast" or "fasting."
  Be that as it may, and if it was so here with Jesus, there is
still one VERY IMPORTANT point to note in all this mountain
wilderness situation.  The three day event was NOT undertaken by
Jesus or His disciples, as a DELIBERATE and planned "fasting"
to "draw nigh to God"  experience. It was NOT for the purpose of
getting close to God in some "religious" vain, as was the fasting
for Esther and the Jews, and also for the people of Nineveh when
Jonah was sent to tell them they faced utter destruction if they
did not change their ways.
  Jesus was here in the mountain doing a "healing ministry."  He
was serving and helping and working miracles for people. It was a
hard three days work for Him, for He often had to go away by
Himself alone to re-store His batteries so to speak, after
undertaking such long healing services, so it is written
elsewhere in the Gospels.
  
  Whatever fasting this was by the people, and remember the
disciples did have some food left, when Jesus inquired of them,
they were fasting BECAUSE of a situation THAT WAS TO SOME EXTENT
out of their control. A circumstance they happened to find
themselves in at the time, in the excitement of the time. In
other words, they had not sat down and with planned forethought
said to themselves, "Well, we shall go to Jesus in the mountain
for a day or more, with our loved one to be healed, and we will
take along nothing to eat or drink, for we shall fast."
  It was not that situation at all, but one that came up on them,
and they and Jesus found they were fasting whether they liked it
or not.

  So, here is the IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE.  The only two examples we
have in the Bible where the word "fast" is used, and so gives us
a Bible interpretation as to a "fast" that is planned with
forethought, and that is DESIGNED with GOD in MIND, to DRAW
CLOSE to Him, to PETITION Him for some reason, to get into a
"spiritual mind set" and to see our human weakness and so the
Mighty and Holiness and Righteousness and Power of the Eternal
God to hear and help and serve us in that particular spiritual
need that we are fasting for,is CLEARLY shown for us to be a fast
that is WITHOUT FOOD AND WITHOUT WATER!
  Such a spiritual fast is to humble us, relate to us that we are
but human flesh and blood, it is to afflict our soul or life, to
give us a little or great "weak in the knees" experience. And
nothing does that better than to go without food and water for a
day or more.  Oh, how we soon know that everything we have to
sustain us in this physical life comes to us and is given to us
by our heavenly Father.
  Nearly every verse in the Bible (one exception is this account
in Mat.15) that uses the word "fast" or "fasting" is in the
context of "religious fasting" in a spiritual mode to mind
set oneself to draw close to God for a purpose that could be for
a specific reason or just to change the direction of life, in
yourself or in a community of persons.  This we saw in the first
study on this subject.

  So, for this "fasting" unto the Lord, a planned and "religious"
mind set towards the Eternal God, we should then cover our mouth,
delete from our body BOTH food AND water or liquids.  Many may to
be reasonings and arguments to try to allow the drinking of water
during a religious mind set fasting period to the Lord, but I
think they all fall short when we take into account the whole
Bible and the examples given to us for undertaking a "spiritual"
fast.
  Of course, we can be close to the Lord and grow in spirituality
each and every day, as we eat and drink.  Jesus knew that, just
as He said God always heard Him for He always did His will and
was yielded to the Father at all times, but that still does not
"do away" with the fact that Jesus often went by Himself into the
mountain or wilderness to pray and draw close to God in a special
way that really did have mental benefit.
  And, yes, although while Jesus was with His disciples, they did
not fast, as the Pharisees complained to Christ concerning this
fact, the answer Jesus gave clearly showed that when He was no
longer going to be with them, then they would fast.

  As Jesus said to His followers, it was not "IF you fast..." 
BUT  it was "WHEN you fast...."

  Jesus expected His brother and sisters to FAST from time to
time.  And what a wonderful experience for the spiritual mind it
can be, to humble ourselves and draw close to the Father with a
fast that  is BOTH without food and water.

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ALL ABOUT BIBLICAL FASTING-- Part One

 

ALL ABOUT-- Biblical Fasting

Part One

MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN ON "HEALTH" FASTING. MANY
HEALTH BOOKS CONTAIN CHAPTERS ON "FASTING."  BUT FOR THE
CHRISTIAN, WHAT DOES THE BIBLE HAVE TO SAY ON "SPIRITUAL"
FASTING? SHOULD WE FAST AT ALL? IF SO, WHEN, WHY, AND
WHAT FOR?  THESE QUESTIONS AND OTHERS WILL ALL BE
ANSWERED IN THIS ARTICLE ON BIBLICAL FASTING.

                                                       by

                                                Keith Hunt



SHOULD CHRISTIANS FAST?
                                    
Do God and Christ expect us to fast?  Should fasting be a part of
a Christian's life?

We are to live by every word of God. (Mt 4:4)  What does God say
to us on this topic?

Christ said, "Moreover, when you fast ......" (Mt 6:16).

Notice!  He did not say IF you fast, but WHEN.  Christ expected
His disciples to fast. 
The disciples of John the Baptist came to Jesus on one occasion
and asked Him why His (Christ's) followers did not fast.  His
answer to them was not that they should NEVER fast but that there
was no need to fast while He was with them.  
".....Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the
bridegroom is with them?  But the days will come when the
bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then 
shall they fast" (Mt 9:15).  After Christ was no longer on this
earth His followers were to fast  - "Then shall they fast."

Christ fasted (Mt 4:2).

He set us an example that we should follow in his steps (I Pet.
2:21).

Paul was inspired to write, "Defraud you not one the other (do
not withhold sexual relations from each other,  v.2-4)  except it
be with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves TO
FASTING and prayer ......" (I Cor 7:5).

Paul wrote that ministers should prove themselves  ".....in much
patience.....in labours.....in fastings....." (II Cor. 6:4-5).

Paul fasted (2 Cor 11:27).  He said we are to follow him as he
followed Christ (I Cor. 11:1).

Christians, then, are to FAST!

WHAT IS BIBLICAL FASTING?
                                  
The Hebrew word for 'fast' is 'tsoom' - which means  'to cover
over.'  The Greek word is 'nace tyoo-o' - which means 'to
abstain.'  See  Strong's Concordance of the Bible.

The Hebrew and Greek words alone would strongly indicate that to
fast in a biblical way is to COVER OVER the mouth and ABSTAIN
from anything entering the mouth into the stomach, or -  abstain
from FOOD and DRINK.

But God does not leave us in any doubt about what HE says is
biblical SPIRITUAL fasting. 
God interprets His own meaning as to the word 'fast'.

"Go, gather together all the Jews who are present in Shushan, AND
FAST you for me, and NEITHER EAT NOR DRINK three days, night or
day ....."  (Esth 4:16).

"In those days I Daniel was mourning (fasting - comp. with Ps
35:13; Isa 5::l-5; II Sam 1:12) three full weeks.  I ATE NO
PLEASANT BREAD, NEITHER CAME FLESH NOR WINE [alcohol, juice,
drink] in my mouth .. ..."  (Dan 10:2,3).

There we have the 'thus saith the Lord' as to the meaning of
'fast.'  It may not be what men or women want to say fasting is,
but that is what God says to His followers it is.  To fast in a
biblical way - to fast spiritual - is to ABSTAIN, to COVER OVER
the mouth from both FOOD and DRINK.

FASTING IS AFFLICTION!
                                                                     
Some will say, then, that to go without food and drink will
surely be hard - it will be painful and it will be affliction.
And God would not want me to be afflicted, would he?

David, a man after God's own heart, said - "But as for me I
afflicted (see mrg. ref.) my soul with fasting ....." (Ps 35:13).

In Psalm 69 David again said :  "When I wept, and chastened my
soul with fasting, that was to my reproach" (v.10).

David knew that to fast - take no food or drink - was not a bed
of roses; it hurt sometimes. 
The word of God does not say it will be a PHYSICAL joy.  It may
well not be.
 
God says through Isaiah the prophet - "Wherefore have we fasted,
say they, and thou seest not? Wherefore have we AFFLICTED our
soul, and thou takest no knowledge?"  God did not recognize their
fasting because, "Behold, in the day of your fast you find
PLEASURE and exact all YOUR LABOURS" (Isa 58:3).
                                    
Fasting is not for pleasure or labour.  Fasting spiritually -
biblical fasting - is to afflict our souls.
     
God gave Israel (the church in the wilderness - Act 7:37, 38) one
specific day they were to fast on - The Day of Atonement (Lev.
23:26-32).  This day not only reminds us of Christ's atoning
sacrifice for us, but also the coming time when this whole world
will be at one with God - when Satan will be chained, no longer
to deceive the world, when all sins will be placed on the one who
started it all - Satan.  Mankind will then be at-one - atoned to
God (Comp. Lev. 16:20-34 with Heb. 13:11; Rev. 20:1-3).

The DAY OF ATONEMENT (10th day of 7th month)  was to be
celebrated with AFFLICTION, see Lev.23.

"For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that
same day, he shall be cut off from among his people (Lev 23:29).

God interprets through David that to AFFLICT ourselves is to FAST 
(Ps. 35:13).

WHEN SHOULD WE FAST?  
                                    
Ecept for the one specific Day of Atonement given to us in Lev.
23, on what other days should Christians FAST?

The church at Rome in Paul's day were all mixed up over this
question.  Some were saying that you should 'fast' on this
specific day of the week, while others said no, it should be
'this' day or 'that' day.  Paul had to straighten them out on
this, as they were to the point of condemning each other over
when to fast; when to eat or when not to eat.

"Who art you that judgest (Gr. kree-no, to distinguish, decide,
condemn) another man's servant?  To his own master he standeth or
falleth ..... God is able to make him stand.  ONE MAN esteemeth
one day above another; ANOTHER esteemeth every day alike.  Let
every man be fully persuaded in his OWN mind.  He that regardeth
the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not
the day, to the Lord he does not regard it.  He that eateth,
eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth
not [fasting], to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks
..... But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you set
at nought your brother?  For we shall all stand before the
judgment seat of Christ" (Rom. 14:4-10).

Paul told the Christians at Rome, and he also tells us likewise,
that to eat on a certain day, or NOT TO EAT on that day - to
'fast' on one day or NOT TO FAST on that day, is an INDIVIDUAL
matter.
                                    
The word of God does not tell us on what day or days of the week
to fast.  Except for the Day of Atonement, God has not instructed
us as to WHEN to fast.  All God is concerned about is that His
servants DO fast.  The day or days, He has left up to us.  And
Paul says that God will accept our choice of day because we are
doing it to God - in honor of God, to serve God. We are not to
condemn each other for choosing this day as opposed to another
day. 
That is what the Christians at Rome were doing,condemning each
other over the matter.

The day we, as an individual, choose to 'fast' on is left to us
to decide upon.  God will  accept it.

HOW LONG SHOULD WE FAST?                     
                                    
DANIEL fasted for THREE full weeks at one point during his and
Judah's captivity  (Dan 10:2-3).

MOSES, when receiving the commandments of God on Sinai, fasted
FORTY days  (Ex 24:18).

ELIJAH also went without food and drink for FORTY days at a very
crucial point in his life (I Kings 19:8).

CHRIST fasted for forty days and nights, just prior to the start
of His ministry  (Mt 4:2).

The above examples are of long 'fasts' - under very special times
and events.  The prophets and men of God were very strong
physically back then.  We have degenerated a great deal
since that time.  Few people today could go without food and
drink for 21 days - let alone 40.

The AVERAGE Christian would not be able to 'fast' much longer
than TWO to FOUR days; and that only after being able to go for
24 hours with no food or drink with comparative ease on other
occasions during the year.

My advice to those who have never fasted in the biblical way (no
food or drink) is to go slow at first.  Start your fast from the
mid-afternoon and end it with a light breakfast the next day. 

After two or three times like this, you then miss out lunch and
go from say  12 noon to breakfast.  The next step is then a
complete 24 hour fast. 

How many times a year should one fast?

There is no command of the Lord.  So I give my judgment as one
guided by the Spirit of God.  One day per month would not be too
often.  There may be times when we will need to fast more than a
day a month.  The main point is that we fast more than on the Day
of Atonement.

WHY SHOULD WE FAST?

The basic reason why God wants us to fast is to draw close to Him
and to change our life (Ezra 8:22, 23).

"Therefore also now, saith the Lord, turn you even to me with all
your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with
mourning: and REND YOUR HEART, and not your garments, and TURN
unto the Lord your God (Joel 2:12,13).

"Is not this the fast that I have chosen?  To loose the bands of
wickedness, to undo the heavy burden, and to let the oppressed go
free ..... To deal thy bread to the hungry ..... when thou
seest the naked, that thou cover him ..... Then shall thy light
break forth as the morning ..... Thy righteousness shall go
before thee. Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer. 
Thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am ....."(Isa 58:6-9).

WHAT TO DO WHEN FASTING 

God tells us to PRAY while we fast, "And I set my face unto the
Lord God, to seek by PRAYER and supplications, with FASTING
....."  (Dan 9:3).

It is a good time to CONFESS our SINS,  "..... The children of
Israel were assembled with fasting .... and the seed of Israel
separated themselves from all strangers, and stood and confessed
their sins ....." (Neh 9:1-2).

We should READ the WORD OF GOD,  "Therefore go thou, and read in
the roll, which thou hast written from my mouth, the words of the
Lord in the ears of the people in the Lord's house upon the FAST
DAY ....." (Jer 36:6).

A  FAST DAY should not be spent doing 'our own thing' (Isa 58:3). 
It is not a day for housework, gardening, car repairing, sports,
etc.  It should be a day of prayer, bible study and meditation.

OTHER REASONS FOR FASTING!

Fasting was done on occasions of PUBLIC CALAMITIES  (2 Sam 1:12).

When approaching DANGER (Esth 4:16).

In times of BEREAVEMENT (I Sam 31:13; 2 Sam 1:12; 12:16,21-23).

God's minister fasted when ORDAINING MEN TO THE MINISTRY
(Act 13:3; 14:23).

HOW SHOULD CHRISTIANS FAST?
                                                          
Should we today 'rent our clothes,'  put on 'sackcloth and
ashes,'  and go about our fasting with painful-looking faces and
mournful noises?

Christ told us how His followers are to fast:

"Moreover, when you fast, be NOT as the hypocrites - of a SAD
COUNTENANCE: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear
unto men to fast ..... BUT YOU, when thou fastest, ANOINT THINE
HEAD, and WASH THY FACE; that thou APPEAR NOT unto men TO
FAST, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father,
which seeth in secret, shall reward you openly." (Mt 6:16-18).

EXAMPLES OF FASTING!

God's word is full of examples of fasting.  Here are some for you
to study.

When the Israelites went to Mizpeth for the Ark (I Sam 7:6).

David, at the death of Saul (2 Sam 1:12).

Ahab, when Elijah prophesied the destruction of himself (I Kings
21:27, 20-29).

Jehoshaphat, at the invasion of the Canaanites and Syrians (2 Chr
20:3).

Ezra, on account of the idolatrous marriages of the Jews (Ezra
10:6).

The Ninevites, when Jonah preached to them (Jonah 3:5-10).

Jesus, before He began His Gospel preaching and ministry (Mat.4).

By Paul, at the time of his conversion (Acts 9:9).
  
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         To be continued 

ALL ABOUT PRAYER-- APPENDIXES

 

All About Prayer

Part Three: Appendices

by
Keith Hunt
                                            APPENDIX ONE
                                    
What about Matthew 21:22.......ALL THINGS...BELIEVING...SHALL
RECEIVE.

Does this mean we can pray:

1. Please God, I'm late for work, I must speed at 65 in a 45
miles per hour zone. Give me freedom from the police and from
killing someone in a crash.
2. I'm out of work Lord, I have a good job offer but I must work
on the Sabbath for half a day. Please let that be okay with you.
3. Father, I need to embezzle some money to pay the hospital
bills for my sick mother. Please help me find a good way to
embezzle money.
4. My ex wife/husband is a rotten person (taking me to court,
abusing the children, making life hell on earth for me), so
please Lord, help me find the right "hit man" who will blow them
away.
5. I think the President of the USA is an evil man, help me oh
Lord to assassinate him, give me the right opportunity and a good
aim as I pull the trigger.
   
Can we really pray for "all things" and believing we shall
receive?
I think you will see from the examples I gave that as a
Christian, and knowing the laws and character of God, it is not
possible to just pray for "all things" and receive it from the
Lord.

Matthew 21:22 must be understood in the context of the WHOLE
Bible and many other verses on this subject of prayer. Some of
the other verses we must keep in mind are:

James 4:3
Eph.5:17
1 John 5:14,15

Again, go back over the above pages and meditate upon the section
"Prayers are unanswered when."

NOW, I want you to turn to Matthew 5 and read verses 25,26. Jesus
is talking to His DISCIPLES!! Jesus is talking to any Christian.
Jesus is saying that if a Christian has done wrong, make it right
with those wronged. If the Christian is in the wrong better try
and solve the problem and make it right if possible. If you do
not, don't expect God to erase the physical penalty you may have
to pay - don't expect God to get you off  "scot free"  from the
physical penalty that may be imposed on you by those you have
wronged.

Please read Romans 13:1-7.

Clearly the powers that be are there because the Lord allows them
to function, and in many cases they are His servants to execute
punishment on those who break laws. James tells us that it is
through law that we have liberty. If there were no laws then
everyone would be a law unto themselves, doing it "my way  as a
popular song was entitled. With no laws we would have anarchy,
people driving as they wanted, as fast as they wanted. Imagine
our towns and cities without any laws governing traffic - it
would be a horror show all the time.

Examples:

1. You are stopped and given a speeding ticket by the police -
you ARE guilty and you know it. Will God deliver you from paying
the fine? Even if you pray all night long, I doubt if the
Lord will set you free from the physical penalty - Romans 13
takes effect. If we are guilty the laws of the land usually deal
out some penalty and that is the way the Lord has decreed it
must be, if we are willing to let Romans 13 teach us the truth of
the matter.

2. You rob a bank by "white collar" work - you are guilty. Will
you pay a physical penalty?
Sure you will, the courts of the land will impose some punishment
on you and God will allow it, for they are His servants to
execute punishment upon those who do wrong.

3. Your son/daughter pulls a knife on another classmate and
threatens them with harm. They are guilty. Can you expect God to
give them complete freedom from some sort of punishment from
society for the evil they have done? According to Romans 13 you
must expect a penalty to be paid.

4. Teenagers - you deal in drugs - you get caught - you are
guilty. Don't ask our God to answer our prayers to get you off
"scot free" without some penalty having to be paid. Romans
13 says God's servants will render punishment upon those who do
wrong.

5.  If you "drink and drive" and kill someone - you are guilty -
better get ready to pay the price, Romans 13 will kick into gear.
It is very unlikely God will hear any prayers for a "no
punishment" sentence.

God can and will forgive ANY sin/evil upon genuine repentance  
the spiritual side of the sin is forgiven and no death penalty is
handed out, but God does not always remove the physical
punishment that He or His servants the judges say must be paid by
the offender - Romans 13.

Here is an outline of what I think our attitude should be in
prayer when a son/daughter/mother/father/brother/sister/close
friend etc. runs amok of the law of the land, when they are
guilty and Romans 13 faces them:

Our heavenly Father, help them to see their error and sin, help
them to turn to you in deep sorrow and repentance. Please help
them and us to FACE and ACCEPT the physical punishment from your
servants the judges(Rom.13). If it is your will, grant that the
judges will be able (if there is evidence) to show some mercy to
be applied in some cases. I have faith that whatever the penalty,
it is your will for your purpose for the ultimate good.



                                   APPENDIX TWO


                DOES THE ETERNAL HEAR PRAYERS
                        FROM PEOPLE NOT IN THE
                               CHURCH OF GOD? 
                                     
                                     
    The woman that went into history as the doctor who delivered
7, yes 7 babies all alive into the world, being interviewed about
it all, said: "To many people God is abstract, but let me tell
you God is not abstract" and then put her face in her hands and
cried.
    On the evening of December 24th 1997, the NBC program
DATELINE had a special one hour documentary on mother Bobby
(including her husband and others as well) and her
REMARKABLE pregnancy and delivery of 7 small (but not as small as
could have been expected for sure) babies. The world was WATCHING
and had been for some weeks before.
    Don't know about you but I praise the Lord when He now and
again lets the whole world KNOW He is still alive and well, still
ANSWERING prayers, and still able to perform ANYTHING He wills.
What a joy to know and to believe that it is still true, "Nothing
is impossible with God."

    Here were two parents, who found that they were possibly
going to have SEVEN babies. It just blows your mind to think
about it. As far as they knew it had never happened before in the
USA, and who knows where else, maybe no other country has
anything on record like it either. These parents did not ask the
Eternal to give them seven children, seven babies all AT ONCE!
They just found they were the parents of seven babies, growing
inside Bobby's womb! For most young couples without the Lord in
their lives there is probably no way they would have tried to
carry seven babies to birth - natural reduction would have been
chosen. The doctor's offered this to Bobby - a picking of what
would be considered as the healthiest of the babies, and ABORTING
the rest. But as Bobby said, because they believe LIFE begins at
CONCEPTION (which indeed it does as proved not only by physical
science but the Bible) such a choice was NO CHOICE. There would
be NO THOUGHT of such a thing, and as she said they did not want
ANY doctor serving them who would want to regularly badger them
with such an idea. For Bobby and her husband, it was full steam
ahead, and let the Lord work His work, as He wished it to be.
    This young couple were and are a SINCERELY religious couple,
faithful members of their church. They have a personal faith in
the Almighty and His Son. Soon the whole congregation knew about
this wonder taking place. For a number of months they were asked
to keep it a secret from the world. They did. But all who knew
were busy PRAYING for the hand of the Supreme One to be watching
over this young pregnant mother carrying seven babies. There were
times a prayer chain was called when things seemed very difficult
for one reason or another. Answers in the positive came. Finally,
Bobby could not go on any further without having to deliver the
children. Once more, in the hospital with members of the family
and church there, prayers were sent up to heaven that all would
go well, and that the Lord would grant all seven of the babies to
live through the birth and on from there into further life.
    Well, once more the Eternal answered in the affirmative, all
were delivered, and as the woman doctor that did the deliveries
said, "To many God is abstract, but let me tell you God is not
abstract." I guess she really knew it that day if she had any
doubts about it before.
    The last to be born had his problems not long after, pretty
serious it was, the doctor's did what they could, but...... they
just did not know if...... So the prayer chain in the church
was called into action once again. And sure enough in no time at
all it would seem, the answer came back on the plus side. The
problem was cleared up and just gone!

    All seven are doing well. Does all this mean they will grow
up with a silver spoon in their mouth as we say. No, it does not!
At this time we have no way to know what lies ahead for anyone of
these seven little children. That is not our concern here. We
just need to focus in on the reality of what the Lord has done in
granting this mother and father, and their community, these seven
babies as they are now, alive, healthy and to be raised.

    Not only brethren is this a wonderful strengthener of faith
in the fact that the true Eternal Father is in heaven above and
still working His miracles here below, but it carries another
very important lesson for us who tend to pride ourselves as being
the true children of God, with more "truth" and "enlightenment"
than any of the others who call themselves "Christian." Far too
often we think and even believe as a doctrine, that God only
hears and answers prayers from......well  the "elect" - only from
people like ourselves, ones who have been given all the special
truths of God, that others do not see, will not see, or who are
just too blinded to see. Ah, and in those last words is part of
the important answer to all this.
    Of all people on this earth, we in the Church of God who have
been granted to know the very plan of salvation for this whole
world, from Adam to the New Jerusalem and the new earth, should
realize that that is where it lies,  for it is written, the whole
are BLINDED, and only the few chosen to grace and light. Many may
be called to hear the word of the Lord, but relatively few go on
to really understand it and live by every word that God has
written for us. What is true about Israel is also true for all
nations. Read carefully again the message of Paul, the truth of
the Lord, as found in Romans chapters 9 to 11. This world
naturally lies in deception, for Satan the devil has been allowed
by God to deceive this whole earth(Rev.12:9). He is the god of
this world the one who has in the main blinded the minds of men
who believe not(2 Cor.4:4) lest the light of the glorious gospel
should shine unto them. And even among those who "do believe" -
who do have a zeal for God as many of Paul's country-men did,
they have a zeal "not according to knowledge" (Romans 10:2), not
according to the correct understanding of the truths of the Lord
as is given to those who are the "elect" that cannot be deceived
(Mat.24: 24).
    But, with all that said, with all that as it is, those who
are BLINDED but still "do believe" are so because God has not
then chosen to REMOVE that blindness. It was Jesus Himself who
said that UNLESS the Father called a person - removed the
covering of blindness from their eyes - NO ONE could come to Him
- John 6:44,65.
    And, some do come to Christ, some do believe there is a God
in heaven, but never go on to "grow in grace and knowledge of our
Lord and Savior Christ Jesus."  They may be sincere but often
they are still sincerely wrong in their religious beliefs and
practices.
    We in the Church of God, who have been given the light of
knowing the great and wonderful plan of salvation for all who
have ever lived on this earth as pictured through the Festivals
of the Eternal, need to remember it really is true that "there go
I but by the grace of God." We need to remember there are
millions out there among the Roman Catholics and Protestant
churches that are very sincere in their love, in their service,
for God and fellow man. They really do want to live as best they
know how and with what has been revealed to them about the
Almighty and His Son. And if their zeal towards God is in part
without knowledge, THAT IS SO BECAUSE GOD HAS NOT YET CHOSEN TO
REMOVE THE
BLINDNESS!
    Can the Father LOVE such persons? Can He HELP such persons?
Can He GIVE to them? Can He ANSWER THEIR PRAYERS? Oh, if it is
written "The Lord sends the rain on the just and on the unjust"
SURELY He can help, serve, love, give, answer the prayers of
those who have a zeal for Him but not according to full
knowledge, because He has not chosen to remove their blindness!

    The Father wants, desires that all should come to repentance
and be saved. He does not want ANY to perish - so it is written.
But He has a time plan for everyone. Many may be called to hear
the Gospel, but few are CHOSEN to be of the election of grace,
and the rest are left in BLINDNESS - see Romans 9. Yet in the
Eternal's good time the Redeemer, the Messiah will come, and so
as it is written "all Israel will be saved" (the huge vast
majority by the time the plan is finished) - see the wonderful
11th chapter of Romans.

    There were two sincere young people, a husband and wife, the
parents of one little girl, who found themselves through the
grace of God to be the parents of SEVEN babies growing inside the
womb of the wife Bobby. As they said, they may not have wanted it
to be that way, they may not have chosen it if left up to
themselves (I can understand that, for who in this modern world
would want to have seven babies all at once?) but they found God
had given them this miracle. In the sincerity of their hearts
they said "Lord, your will be done."
They went forward in FAITH! They went forward with PRAYER! They
went forward with others who saw the hand of the Almighty in this
and who said they would serve and help them care for these
precious little lives that have the potential to become part of
the very family of the Father in heaven.
    Oh, indeed it is so, God is not abstract, He really does
live, He really is an individual being that exists, and He does
hear and answer the prayers of even those who may not be
called to the first resurrection. God has a special love for
those whom He has called and chosen to be the BRIDE of Christ at
His coming in glory, but He still loves and serves, as He
wills, those who have a zeal for Him but are still in much
blindness. As it is His responsibility to remove spiritual
blindness and reveal the truths of His word to anyone, so it is
that He is able to see the sincerity within the heart of anyone
towards Him that are still left in blindness, and answer their
prayers, as He wills, just as He is able to do so for those
called to be the very elect and bride of Christ.

    It is very sobering to realize that Jesus taught in plain
words that many who had been called and chosen to be in the first
resurrection at His coming again, would not MAKE IT!
Yes, five of the ten virgins would run out of oil in their lamps
and find they missed the Bridegroom when He came. There were many
in Jesus' time who had the law, they had the prophets, they had
the covenants, they had the true God of Israel, but they lacked
the simple heart-felt humility and sincerity that would be needed
to enter the first resurrection. He looked on that scene,
sometimes crying over it as He did with Jerusalem, wanting to
gather them under His wings as a mother hen does her chicks. He
told them that in the day of judgment - the great white throne
day - the sincere humble attitude of those who repented at
the preaching of Jonah would put to shame many of those in His
day who were witness to one greater than Jonah (Mat. 12:41).

    As I have seen the interviews of this young mother and father
who were given seven babies on one particular day to have and to
raise, whatever befalls them, I have been amazed at their simple
sincere and humble faith in the Father and His Son. The Supreme
One loves them, has helped them, and He surely did answer their
prayers and those who prayed with and for them and their seven
babies.
    May the Lord continue to help and be with them through
whatever this physical life may present them with. Let us
remember that young mother and father and their children in
our prayers. As the delivery doctor said: "To many people God is
abstract, but let me tell you God is not abstract," then she put
her face in her hands and wept.

    Oh, that many more thousands and millions in Israel would
come to see the reality that God is alive and is a real personal
Being. Oh, that many more would then pray to that Eternal Father,
and even put their face in their hands and weep.

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