Tuesday, March 17, 2026

CHURCH GOVERNMENT-- WOMEN??? #3

 

Women in the Church? #3

Answers to various arguments

 WOMEN'S ROLE IN THE CHURCH SERVICE......CONTINUED, PART THREE

The Way:

     Have you ever been in an audience somewhere before a program
begins, and on all sides of you is the sound of talking from the
people around you, but you can't really tell what anyone is
saying? All you hear is the hum of people talking. That's a good
way of describing laleo. It's not necessarily intelligible speech
- it's just the sound of the human voice.
     That's what Paul is talking about in 1 Corinthians 14. If
you have received the gift of speaking in another language, but
it's a language no one else in the room understands, trying to
address the group in that language is pointless -- no one will
understand what you are saying!  All they will hear is the sound
of your voice! That's the "speaking" (laleo) in tongues (glossa,
languages) Paul is referring to in this chapter.

     What many people have missed is that Paul is not speaking
about tongues, and then about women. The Greek shows us the
unifying factor: Paul is discussing the subject of laleo, of
useless or non-edifying application of the human voice during
services!  What Paul said was that women are not allowed to
laleo, and it is disgraceful for a woman to laleo in the church.
In this passage, Paul is not addressing women preachers at all!

COMMENT:
Wooww!  Just wait a minute! Yes, Paul is speaking about tongues
that do not profit anyone if there is no interpreter. BUT he is
also speaking about a whole lot MORE than that.  He is speaking
about "prophets" and "prophesying" - about speaking to edify and
instruct.  His whole theme in this chapter was that of clear
instructional edification for everyone.  In verse 26, he
acknowledges that everyone there had something they could
contribute, so was the magnitude of the gifts of the Spirit in
their congregation. He then sets about giving them instructions
on how order should be within their assembly during the service.
He even lays out for them that only SO MANY (with the gift of
tongues and those who could prophesy - speak the words of the
Lord) could speak and that IN TURN.  He tells them there is no
such thing as "well I just could not help but speak, for the
Spirit made me do it" as the spirit of the prophet is subject to
the prophet. The Spirit does not force anyone to speak, it does
not just "take over" a person like a demon sometimes does that
enters an individual, and where that person then has no control
of what and when and how they do things.  Paul instructs them God
and His Spirit do not function that way, where confusion is the
end result. 
You will notice the LAST thing, before introducing his
instructions concerning women, that he talks about is NOT tongues
but it is the PROPHETS and prophesy.  Those who can speak the
words of the Lord either by direct revelation on the spot, or
instruct and teach the revelation of God from the Scriptures.  So
if we want to argue any "nearest" context in the Greek, for our
"women keep silence" issue, then it is not tongues but prophesy
that they are to be silent on.
The full truth of the matter is the WHOLE chapter context, that I
have already given above in earlier comments.  But a repeat is
worthwhile.  
Paul knew most of the congregation at Corinth had some gift of
the Spirit, including the women.  They did not control those
gifts, they did not have order in the service, they were
all just letting it hang out as they say, anytime they felt like
it. Paul corrected them on their misuse of the gift of tongues
and how such a gift in the assembly should be used. He instructs
them on some order they should have in their service and even
limits certain gifts to two or three.  He understands even the
women had some of these gifts, and knows the question will arise
(especially among the Jews there) about whether they are allowed
to use that vocal gifts in edifying and instructing the
congregation during the time when the church comers together into
one place.  It is at the END of all his correcting and
instructions he gave to them that he answers that question, as it
would then cover ALL that he has given instructions on.  Paul
answers the question of all women with any gift of being able to
teach, instruct, preach, the words of the Lord, by saying, THEY
are to be SILENT in that regard, even to the point of asking
questions. If they have any questions they are to ask their
husbands at home (a general statement, without going into the
exceptions of those who are not married, divorced or widows).  

The Way:

     In fact, Paul's instructions in 1 Corinthians 11:4-5,
regarding men and women praying and prophesying with their heads
covered or uncovered, strongly implies that the women were able
to take part in worship, in praying, and perhaps even in teaching
(one of the definitions of prophesying) in the assembly.

COMMENT:
We have already show and proved that this section of Scripture in
1 Cor. 11 has nothing to do with "when the church comes together
into one place" but it does concern every man and woman in the
body of Christ on an every day basis outside of the church coming
together.

The Way:

     Notice this footnote to 1 Corinthians 14:33-40 in the Key
Study Bible: "... it was not an instruction to all the men in
general not to permit any woman to speak in church, but to
husbands to guide and teach their own wives lest they produce
confusion and disturbance in a meeting. ..."


COMMENT:
Now let's use some logic and some common sense as to how Paul
wrote and the before context he wrote in.  He had just gone
through expounding and explaining and correcting the errors of
speech the members of the congregation were practicing in the
church coming together at Corinth.  He had made it clear there
was not only confusion in their services, but people speaking who
could not be understood by anyone. He then instructs them what
church services should be for - edification for all, and he
further lays down certain rules of how many can speak who have
certain gifts of the Spirit. This he tells them is in order
NOT to have confusion, for, under inspiration of the Spirit he
says, God is not the author of confusion. Plainly, he is telling
them that their confusion in services is from somewhere
else other than God, I think they would have understood where he
was telling them it was from, without naming any names of those
in opposition to the Lord, and who are part of the unseen world
of the created spirits.
If Paul, after saying all this, was now wanting the husbands to
make sure their wives were not part of this confusion, he could
have easily said after verse 33, something like this:
"Husbands, make sure you teach and train your wives at home, so
they will not bring any confusion in speech as they participate
in the teaching and preaching when the church comes together."
That's all he would have needed to say, for IF, and for the sake
of argument we shall say it was so, women were already fully
participating in the teaching, preaching, expounding of the word,
in the Church of God services everywhere, then a simple short
paragraph such as I have given above would have been all that
Paul would have needed to say after verse 33 of chapter 14, to
the husbands and the wives.
There would have been no need to have said anything about "the
law" or about "learning" or about "asking their husbands at home"
for everyone would have known women were on par with men in the
teaching and preaching during services.  If there was any problem
with wives bringing in confusion during the teaching service then
a short sentence like above would have been all that Paul needed
to say.
Then such an idea that it was the women who were mainly
responsible for the confusion is a real slap in the face for
them.  To think that bringing in talk confusion in the teaching
part of the church service is only a problem that women have, and
need some extra instruction at home under their husbands, to
control and overcome it, is not only a slap in the face towards
women but is a close-minded and blinded view to the fact that MEN
can have just as much a problem with confusion in talk when they
start going at each other and disagreeing over what the word says
or means.  Men are just as likely to interrupt each other in
speaking, disagree over the meaning of a verse or verses,  get
all emotional, and cause confusion in an open forum (as the
Corinthians obviously were practicing before Paul instructed them
about "order") as women are!
So who were going to teach the men lest they produce confusion
and disturbance in a meeting?  
Then why would anyone want to teach another in the homes not to
cause confusion and a disturbance in the church meetings when
Paul had JUST NOW instructed them in the ORDER of things, so
there would be no confusion?  He had just given them what he said
were the COMMANDS of the Lord. He had just instructed them in no
uncertain way about those who would give edification talks to the
congregation. He had instructed them HOW NOT TO BE IN CONFUSION! 
To think that the women still needed further instruction
on the matter, makes out the women and wives to be either not
listening, not able to read, or just plain slow and dumb. Again,
it would be another insult and slap in the face for women.
Paul had a number of women that were workers with him in the
gospel. He wrote and spoke highly of them in not a few of his
epistles.  To understand Paul as teaching and saying what
Zodhiates, the Key Study Bible, and the authors of this article
want you to accept and believe, is not only not understanding
Paul and his theology, but is also filled with much il-logic.

The Way:

 "The word 'speak' should be taken to mean 'uttering sounds that
are incoherent and not understood by others.' Paul says that
instead it is better to have silence. Paul uses the same word
'keep silent' to admonish a man [any person, actually] who speaks
in an unknown tongue without an interpreter (vv. 28, 30). "

COMMENT:
So "keep silent" then does mean to "keep silent."  Those who
could speak in a tongue were not to speak - keep silent - not
utter sounds of speech, IF they had no interpreter, or could
not interpret for themselves.  So Paul said what he meant and
meant what he said.  If the tongues speaker was to be silent, not
to speak (which is admitted to mean just that - not say
any words in edification, teaching, preaching, expounding, and
prophesy from the Lord) unless there was an interpreter, then
Paul also meant what he said and said what he meant, when he said
women were to keep silent and that it was not permitted unto them
to speak. 
The context as we have seen is edification, teaching, expounding,
revelations, instruction from the Lord, not the mere fact of
saying "hello" to someone, or telling the children to stop making
a noise. Paul then clearly tells us that women are to "keep
silent" in teaching during services where instruction and
edification for the whole congregation is the purpose of coming
together into one place.

The Way:

     "What Paul is saying is that only one man [person] must
speak at a time, for if two speak at once, there will be
confusion. ... The issue is not men versus women, but it is
confusion versus order. In God's sight, it makes no difference
who causes the confusion. It is a shame for any woman to bring
confusion into the local church (v.35), even as it is for any man
to do so."

COMMENT:
The issue up to verse 33 is first to correct and instruct about
the prevailing confusion that was present in the church service,
and to lay down rules for order. Then he addresses after all
that, the issue of whether women can use the gifts of the Spirit
they may have, in teaching, preaching, edifying the congregation
from the word or revelations of the Lord, during that part of the
service devoted to that purpose - teaching and edifying from the
Lord to the congregation, which he had just finished addressing
and laying down instruction.


The Way:

     And again, as mentioned previously, the word gunaikes
(Strong's #1135, a derivative of gune) in verse 34 should not be
translated "women," but as "wives." 

COMMENT:
Not so, it should be as nearly all Greek and English translation
give - women. Paul was meaning all women as shown in 1 Tim. 2,
where the instruction on dress and outward appearance for women
applies to all women, not just the married, and where the
instruction in verses 11,12 applies to all women not only to the
married.

The Way:

     Once again, the point of the verse is that wives should
submit to their husbands.  Paul isn't teaching the subjection of
women to men in general, but rather that husbands and wives fit
into the family unit ordained by God.  Zodhiates writes that "the
duty of the husbands is to restrain their own wives from
out-bursts during the worship service. Whenever Paul speaks of
submissiveness by a woman, it is always on the part of a wife to
her own husband."

COMMENT:
Wow! Read that again where they quote from Zodhiates.  Yes, I
guess he wrote it, they quote it.  Now, in a world where many
nations had kept their women as practical slaves, and where they
were not permitted to go on to higher education, where they were
often looked upon as part of the "possessions" of a man.  Where
the Jews could cast them aside with the stroke of a pen, and go
on to another one, or two, or three (polygamy was still allowed
in Jewish life), it would seem if we adopt the suppositions of
Zodhiates in what Paul was teaching under the sections we are
concerned with in this study, that there were some pretty wild
and powerful and emancipated  wives in the Churches of God, who
would really "go to town" as they say, during the church come
togethers.  It would seem they would rant and scream and put on
quite the out-bursts during worship service, so they needed to be
restrained in some fashion (maybe holding, maybe standing between
their wife and the person their wife was going to cat-claw, maybe
putting a rope around them and tying them down, maybe some other
type of restraining like a straight jacket) during services. 
This was so bad that Paul even had to tell the husbands to teach
them restraint and to teach them to be under the husband's
authority, at home, somehow, in some manner.
Now, how would you do this at home, away from the situation of
many others coming together and where arguments could take place
if there was no order or an open forum was practiced? Would you
get the kids to confront their mother so she was close to an
out-burst, and then teach her to restrain?  Would you call in the
neighbors and have them niggle your wife unto she was ready to
explode in vocal vociferousness, and then teach her to restrain?
Would you deliberately pick a fight with her to then teach her to
restrain from throwing the cooking pot at you?
I speak of course with tongue in cheek.

For the sake of the argument, we shall go along with the
supposition and theory of Zodhiates.  By the time Paul wrote his
epistles it was just common practice within all the Churches of
God, that women were teaching, preaching, expounding the word of
the Lord in church services just as much as the men were.  But
they were getting out of hand, just causing far too much
confusion, bringing too many out-bursts into the worship service,
and so Paul found it needful to tell the husbands to do some
teaching at home, so their wives would be more restrained and
come under their authority and be subject to them, not
usurping their husband's authority.  How would he tell her she
had gone too far and was now usurping it over him?  Would it be
if she spoke too often, or spoke too fast, or too slow, or too
continuously without a break for three minutes?  Would it be if
he thought she was smiling too much at the other men in the
congregation?  Or maybe, if she did not smile at him enough times
in any five minute period?  Perhaps he would deem she had gone
beyond his authority if she did not allow him to speak, once
every ten minutes at least. 
Maybe he would have to restrain her somehow if she laughed too
many times, or got a little emotional over a verse or point of
doctrine or someone else commenting on something.
I can see the people and couples and ministers of the church
spending large amounts of time trying to figure out how to
establish and practice this type of family instruction we are
to believe Paul was teaching to the husbands. Perhaps, when Paul
was alive he wrote it out for them in fine detail, but it got
lost along the way, and we today are left in the dark and left to
fend for ourselves, and figure it all out for ourselves.  Oh, the
many hours of wrangling, disputing, arguing, fretting, and
confusion it would take and produce, to probably get nowhere in a
slow hurry. It would probably end up making as much sense as
the words "slow hurry."  

The Way:
                     A DIFFERENT SET-UP
                        IN THOSE DAYS

     But why should there be any extraneous talking such as this?
In our modern congregations, families sit together, and we all
sit respectfully and listen to what is taking place.
In ancient times, however, the seating arrangement with which we
are familiar was probably not what people were using.  Note this
passage from the Jewish New Testament commentary in reference to
1 Corinthians 14:
     "Sha'ul [Paul] is answering a question (7:1) the Corinthians
asked about wives discussing with their husbands what is being
said while it is being said. This would disturb decorum even
if the wife were sitting next to her husband; but if the
universal Jewish practice of the time (and of Orthodox
congregations today) was followed, wherein women and men are
seated separately in the synagogue, it would obviously be
intolerable to have wives and husbands yelling at each other
across the m 'chitzah (dividing wall)."

COMMENT:
Yes, of course it would be distracting and end in confusion if
many wives were asking their husbands questions about what was
being said, while it was still being said, while the speaker was
still teaching and expounding the word of the Lord. So Paul,
knowing that, also made sure his readers understood that his
directive for women to keep silent while the teaching part of the
service was under way, included even keeping silent concerning
questions their wives may have as the teaching service was under
way. They were to note their questions and ask their husbands for
answers when they were at home. And as I have already pointed
out, Paul was thus upholding the family structure by honoring the
husbands to answer their wive's questions and not the Eldership. 
I would suppose if the husband did not know the answer he would
go to the Eldership for it, and then instruct his wife.

The Way:
                        EDUCATIONAL DIFFERENCES
                                    
     Another possible explanation for Paul's instructions to
husbands about their wives "speaking out" in the assembly is
this: During Paul's time most women were not very well educated. 
Men were the ones that delved deeply into the issues of the day,
especially the issues relating to theology.  Imagine a doctrinal
message being given in Corinth that requires a foundational
understanding of the topic. In order for individuals to
contribute to the edification of the assembly, they would need a
deeper understanding of the topic.
     There may well have been great differences in the
educational levels among the men and women of the Corinthian
congregation, which led to confusion at times. As it was written
on another occasion, "We have much to say, and it is difficult to
explain, for you have become sluggish in hearing.  Although you
should be teachers by this time, you need to have someone teach
you again the basic elements of the utterances of God. You need
milk, (and) not solid food" (Hebrews 5:11-12, The New American
Bible).

COMMENT:
The fault with this reasoning is that it forgets again the
context of the chapter and the context of the church in Corinth. 
Here was a congregation blessed with more GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT
than probably any other congregation in the Churches of God at
that time. The gifts of the Spirit are given to all (including
women) as the Spirit distributes.  What lack of formal education
some of the women in the church had, having a gift of the Spirit
would nullify, and when it would come to teaching and preaching
and expounding the word of the Lord, many a man and woman would
excel if filled with not only the Spirit of the Lord but also a
gift from that Spirit.

The Way:

     Imagine that we are the Corinthian congregation. Someone's
wife abruptly interrupts the meeting, on a fairly regular basis,
by asking a question in the middle of the discussion. It may
be a very good question. Yet, it would require such a digression
back into the fundamental levels of the topic that it takes away
from the edification intended for the whole group. To answer and
explain her question would not allow the topic to move forward.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with that, and occasional review
is good for everyone. The problem arises when this happens
week alter week.  Some of the members have expressed feelings of
frustration over this situation.
     Because we, in Corinth, wish to resolve this problem, and a
number of other problems we are currently experiencing in our
local fellowship, one of the leaders of the congregation sends a
letter to Paul in order to see how he would want us to handle
these situations.

     Paul sends us the letter that would later be known as the
book of 1 Corinthians. In the section of his letter giving
instructions about how our assemblies should be conducted, he
addresses the problem of handling interruptions by wives asking
questions of their husbands during the meeting, a process that
slows down the learning in the assembly.
     He tells us, "Let your wives be at peace and in control of
themselves in the assembly, for it is not permitted for them to
be continuously speaking out and causing a disturbance. They are
to be subordinate to their husbands as we are instructed in the
scriptures. If they want to learn more about what is being
discussed, they should ask their husbands later, for it is
totally inappropriate for wives to speak out and disturb the
edification process in the assembly" (authors' paraphrase).
     This way,  husbands and wives can prepare together, ahead of
time, and discuss the background of a discussion topic, so they
can both be prepared to contribute and learn.
     This discussion, and the instructions about husbands and
wives given in 1 Timothy, should help us better to understand the
group dynamics that were taking place at Corinth in the middle of
the first century and how Paul instructed them to properly
conduct their meetings.

COMMENT:
Interesting scenario, but Paul's language is not what the authors
paraphrase.  He could have used words like "peace" and
"self-control" and "continually speaking out." He could
have used words like "I hear your women are causing a disturbance
when the church comes together" and words such as, "I hear the
wives in your assembly are prone to out-bursts" or "as for the
wives asking questions while the prophet speaks."  He could have
used words to say, "I hear the wives are speaking out and
edification is hindered."  The Greek language had words for all
the above. Paul could have used them and written very similar
to what the authors give us in their paraphrase.  BUT HE DID NOT!
And for one simple reason. That was not the problem as such, and
it was not the thought Paul was answering.
He was answering the logical question from all the talk on the
gifts of the Spirit that preceded (and all the instruction of
when, and how, and who could speak to edify, and some order given
in the number and control to be exhibited) up to verse 33, and
that question would be: Can the women use their gifts of the
Spirit in the teaching/preaching/expounding of the word to
edification, part of the church service? And Paul's answer was
"no" - they are to remain silent in this, even to the point of
asking no questions to their husbands about what is expounded,
but to save their questions and ask their husbands at home.

The Way:


                       WHAT LAW IS REFERRED TO?
                                    
     Next we need to consider the enigmatic phrase, "as the Law
says" (verse 34).  What law does Paul mean?
     The King James Version really gives womanhood a connotation
of slavery in its translation of verse 34:  "Let your women
(gune, wife] keep silence in the churches: for it is not
permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under
obedience, as also saith the law." Notice how the KJV translators
have added the italicized phrase, "they are commanded." In the
KJV there is definitely a strong, domineering bias showing
through in this verse by the translators. Then, adding the phrase
about "the law" to back up what Paul was saying could make it
sound like the law, Paul, and churchmen in general were down on
women.


COMMENT:
The KJV is under attack once more, made out to be the murderer of
women.  The words "they are commanded" are in italicized words in
the KJV, which the KJV tells you at the beginning are not in the
original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts.  I would find it much
more of a plot and clandestine plan if the scholars of the KJV
had not italicized these words but put them in matching letters
to the rest of the words that are in the Greek.  I see no
deliberate bias here on the part of the KJV translators.  Paul
was after all backing up his stand on this matter with "the law."

His authority to be so dogmatic on what he had just stated was
not from himself per se, not his idea at all. He had authority to
state what he did concerning women being silent and not using
their spiritual gifts in the teaching/expounding the word of the
Lord, part of the church service, from "the law."
It is interesting that the Greek word Paul chose to use for the
word "permitted" in the KJV carries the overtone of "command"
within it. See the Greek lexicons.

The Way:

     But what we are reading is the result of men translating
these verses while harboring the mental concept toward women that
we saw earlier! Yet, what this verse appears to say (in the
KJV) is not fully consistent with what we know of the love of God
that created these relation- ships.  

COMMENT:
Was there some terrible mental hate being exhibited by the KJV
translators towards women when they translated verse 34 of 1 Cor.
14 ?  Oh, they added some words but told you by putting them in
italics that they are not technically in the Greek.  Yet, we have
seen the word "permitted" in the Greek carries the overtone of
"command."  The KJV translators were Greek scholars.
How do the modern Greek/English translators Green and Berry,
translate this verse?  "Let the women of you in the churches be
silent, not for it is allowed to them to speak, but let them be
subject, as also the law says......a shame for it is for women in
church to speak" verses 34,35, as rendered into English by Jay P.
Green, Sr.
"Women yours in the assembly let them be silent, for it is not
allowed to them to speak; but to be in subjection, according as
also the law says.......for a shame it is for women in assembly
to speak" verses 34, 35, as rendered by George Berry.
As you see not that much different from the KJV.  Are Berry and
Green biased towards women?
If you are a Greek scholar and you give a literal translation
from the Greek into English as close as possible going from one
language to another, then you translate as Green and Berry did,
and as the KJV translators did. All three very close to
translating with the same English words.  
Of course you may want to say all three had bias towards women. 
And I could say look up these verses in dozens of other
translations and you will find many more scholars of Greek with
bias towards women. 
God is love, and He personally took a rib from Adam and made from
it a women. He looked at all He had created and made and said it
was "good."  He has no bias towards women, He is perfect
righteousness, and it was He who inspired these words in verses
34 and 35 of 1 Cor. 14. 
In His love for men and women He also created basic roles for
them, outside the church service and inside the church, when it
comes together into one place. 


The Way:
 
     Let's understand what "the law" means.

     "Law" is translated from the Greek word nomos (Strong's
#3551), which is always translated "law" in the KJV. However,
nomos can refer to any number of things:  the Ten Commandments,
the Torah, Jewish customs and traditions, or even an agreed-upon
procedure. There is, in reality, no clear-cut law in scripture
authorizing men to subjugate women and treat them like children!

COMMENT:
Now we see a psychological mind move here.  If you are not
agreeing with the authors' reasoning and teachings on this
matter, and are still agreeing say with me, then you are not
understanding the Scriptures and still following the clandestine
plot supposedly planted in the KJV by the scholars who translated
for King James - and that plot was to subjugate and treat women
like children.  I have read the KJV from the age of six years,
that is nearly 50 years ago now, and I have never once found any
passage in it that was teaching anyone to treat women like
children. So if the KJV scholars were trying to put forth that
instruction in some of their translations of the Hebrew and Greek
into English, they surely did a lousy job of it.

The Way:

     Paul may have been thinking of Genesis 3:16: "To the woman
he said, I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with
pain you will give birth to children.  Your desire will
be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
     There is another translation of this verse, which also needs
to be given consideration. It is found in a footnote of Genesis
3:16 in The New Living Translation: "Then he said to the
woman, "You will bear children with intense pain and suffering.
And though you may desire to control your husband, he will be
your master" [Or, "he will have dominion over you."].
     According to this footnote, the thrust of the verse implies
that the wife may have a desire to be in control of her husband,
and thus the family. But, the instruction from our Father is that
the husband would have the dominant role in the God-ordained
family. This is more in line with the instructions from a loving
Father of how the marital relationship should be -- the husband
and father of the family having dominion and lovingly guiding and
leading the family. This lends a much better understanding of
this verse than the master/slave connotation the KJV gives. Why
would a wife "desire to control [her] husband"? The reason is
that she has rejected God's revealed knowledge of proper marital
relations. Was Paul referring to Genesis 3:16 when he said,
"as the law says" in I Corinthians 14:34?  Perhaps. However, it's
also quite likely that Paul was actually making a non-specific
reference to the God-ordained set of family dynamics, as if to
say,
"You are well aware of how the family should be run, so please
apply that knowledge in this situation."

COMMENT:
The KJV in Gen.3:16 is not a good translation in some ways, but
the NLT given above is also not good in other ways.  First of all
many women in the world do NOT have any "pain" in childbirth,
that this verse has taught many to believe. For generations many
have assumed it was natural and God's intent here to make sure
all women have physical pain when giving birth. Such is not the
case at all, and there are thousands upon thousands of women who
have delivered their babies naturally without any physical pain.
The Hebrew words here do not mean physical pain, but that is a
whole new subject. Granty Dick Reid in his ground-breaking book
"Childbirth Without Fear" goes into all this in great detail.
The last part of this verse the NLT has done a much better job in
translating than the KJV, or should I say understanding the
meaning and intent of the Hebrew.  Jay Green gives the
literal translation of this verse this way: "to the woman He
said, greatly I will increase your sorrow and your conception, in
sorrow you shall bear sons, and your husband your desire
shall be, and he shall rule over you."  So once more we see that
the KJV scholars did a pretty accurate translation of the Hebrew
into English, if we go with the literal translation and not a
paraphrase or interpretive translation.
Looking at all the Bible, and then understanding or interpreting
this verse, I agree with what the authors say above.  For an
in-depth study of this I recommend the book before mentioned
called "Man and Woman in Biblical Perspective" by James Hurley.

As some Bible commentators state, when Paul said "the law" here,
he may not have been thinking about any one particular passage of
OT Scripture at all. He may simply have been stating that the
whole general teaching of the OT was that women were never given
the role by God to teach, preach, instruct, expound the word of
the Lord in official congregational gatherings when the church
came together into one place.  The general reading of the OT
will clearly show forth that truth and give the reader that
instruction.  No woman was ever a part of the official priesthood
of Israel that did all the praying and teaching on the holy
convocations - when the church (Israel was the church in the
wilderness - Acts 7:38) came together into one place.


The Way:
                      "IN THE CHURCH"?

     As we saw above, Paul wrote: "Let your women keep silence in
the churches." What did he mean by this?
     Turning to Paul's letter to Titus, we read this: "Likewise,
teach the older women to he reverent in the way they live, not to
be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is
good. Then they can train the younger women to love their
husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy
at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that
no one will malign the word of God" (Titus 2:3-5, NIV).
     Paul is instructing Titus to teach the older women to teach
the younger women!  Women are to teach! "Yes," some will say,
"but this means at home, not during services." Remember,
though, that the scripture quoted earlier doesn't say that a
woman isn't to "speak during church services," but rather that it
is disgraceful for a woman to laleo in the church. Yet, here we
see that Titus is to instruct older women in the church to
instruct younger women in the church! While the first instance
may be construed to mean that people should not laleo "during
church services," or "during the assembly," this passage in Titus
is clearly talking about women "in the church" -- members of the
Body of Christ -- teaching other women who are also "in the
church"!

COMMENT:
Of course they are going to say Paul was just saying in 1 Cor. 14
women should not "chit-chat" or be "asking questions" to their
husbands or others while some teaching is being presented, as it
causes distraction and hence confusion.  But we have more than
just 1 Cor. 14 we also have 1 Tim. 2 on this matter.  And as I
have tried to show, the problem was not "chit-chat" from women or
speaking in tongues no one could understand, for Paul had
already talked about that problem and instructed as what to do
about it.  If it was confusing chit-chat from the women he then
wanted to correct, he could have easily used language like: "I
hear the women are talking to each other and asking questions to
their husbands while someone is expounding the word of the Lord.
Tell them to stop this talk as it brings confusion to the
assembly."

Now to Titus. Please read carefully chapter two, read chapter one
also if you like. Can you find the word "church" in those
chapters?  Can you find the words "when you come together into
one place"?  Can you find the words "when the church comes
together"?  No! Such words and phrases are just not there.  Paul
is instructing Titus about certain things that he should instruct
others to do or not to do. He was to instruct the older men. He
was to instruct the younger men. He was to instruct servants. And
he was to instruct the older women.  Yes, he was to tell the
older women they should instruct the younger women in certain
areas of their living. How would Titus do this instruction? Well
it certainly could be in sermons, but it certainly could also be
in private conversations he would have with the older and younger
women, anywhere - after services as they fellowshipped on the
Sabbath, in their homes as he visited them during the week, and
at other convenient times.

There is nothing in Titus to tell us when the older women should
teach the younger women these things mentioned.  1 Cor. 14 and 1
Tim. 2  would rule out that it would be during official church
services of teaching and expounding the word of the Lord, where
the whole church has come together with men present.  And that is
what we need to understand, it is when men are present and it is
an official whole church coming together into one place to be
instructed and edified in the expounding of the word of the Lord,

that women are to remain silent in the teaching and expounding of
the word section of the service.  And if they have any questions
about what is taught they are to ask their husbands at home.
The older women would not then be teaching the younger women
during this part of the service.  Now if it was a woman's
"retreat" week-end and only women were there (as many churches do
hold such week-ends - they also have men only retreat week-ends)
then women would teach women.  And older women could teach
younger women at such retreats.  The Lord gives no instructions
in His word that prohibits women only retreats for one or more
days.  Women would then teach women at these times.
The most natural times for older women to teach the younger women
what Paul wanted them to teach, is of course during more natural
times - everyday times - everyday living as the older and younger
women of the church would meet and fellowship during the week,
outside of the 2 hours or so a week that the church comes
together into one place.
Remember the phrase "church coming together" is not found in
Titus chapter two.

The Way:

     Here is a classic example of a phrase that may have more
than one meaning. The only way to really understand what is meant
by "in the church" (Greek:  en ekklesia) is to look at the
context and the sentence structure, and note other occurrences of
the phrase. 


COMMENT:
I agree, but remember, the phrase "in the church" is not found in
Titus chapter two.

The Way:

     Notice these other examples of  "en ekklesia":


     Acts 7:38: "He (Moses) was in the assembly in the desert,
with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our
fathers; and he received living words to pass on to us."
     I Corinthians 6:4: "There-fore, if you have disputes about
such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the
church!"
     1 Corinthians 11:18: "In the first place, I hear that when
you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, and
to some extent I believe it."
     1 Corinthians 12:28: "And in the church God has appointed
first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then
workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those
able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and
those speaking  in  different  kinds  of tongues."
     I Corinthians 14:19: "But in the church I would rather speak
five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand
words in a tongue."
     I Corinthians 14:28: "If there is no interpreter, the
speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and
God."
     1 Corinthians 14:35: "If they want to enquire about
something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is
disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."
     Ephesians 3:21: "to him (God) be glory in the church and in
Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever!
Amen."
     Colossians 4:16: "After this letter has been read to you,
see that it is also read in the church of the Laodiceans and that
you in turn read the letter from Leodicea."
     As you can see, it's sometimes clear what is meant by this
phrase, but at other times you can't really be sure if it's
referring to the church people or the church gathering -- or
both!

COMMENT:
I agree. It is often the CONTEXT that must tell us how a word is
being used and not the mere "lexicon" meaning.  But with that
said, I submit the context of 1 Cor. 14 tells us plainly how Paul
was using the phrase "in the church" or "when you come together
into one place."  In fact the last phrase is the interpretation
of how Paul was viewing "in the church" in his discord correction
and instruction he was given them from verse 17 of chapter 11 to
the end of chapter 14. Certainly in chapter 12 and 13 there is a
broader aspect to include the whole body of believers in Christ
everywhere, but there can be no mistaking the much narrower
aspect of the local Corinthian assembly when they came together
into one place, when we read Paul's instructions and corrections
in chapter 11:17-34 and chapter 14.  Chapter 11:17-34 is dealing
with that local congregation in the city of Corinth meeting to
observe the memorial of the death of Christ, on one particular
evening of the year at one particular location, as they came
together into one place (verse 20). Chapter 14 likewise.  Various
wordings like that of verse 23, 24, 26-31,  make it obvious
that Paul  was talking about the things that were going on in
their individual church assembly at Corinth, when they met as a
whole church, when they came into one place.

TO BE CONTINUED                                                  

HEBREWS CHAP. #8, #9

 

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Chapter One-hundred-five:

Epistle to Hebrews #12

                      
                                
                                  Chapters 8 and 9



CHAPTER 8

     The last half of this chapter is the key-note. And this
chapter in a nut=shell is about the TWO COVENANTS - the first,
but more importantly the second or as it is put "a BETTER
covenant."

     Paul sums up what he has so far spoken, and that is that we
have a High Priest, who is set down on the right hand of God, by
His throne, the Majesty in the heavens.
     It is again worth noting that Jesus sits NOT on top of the
Majesty on High, not inside of Him, not taking His throne for
himself, BUT Christ sits on the RIGHT HAND of the Majesty on
High. This verse alone (without dozens and dozens of others in
the Bible and in the New testament particularly) PROVES that
Jesus Christ and God the Father (the Majesty on high) are TWO
SEPARATE BEING!! Both have their own FORM and SHAPE, both sitting
next to each other, not inside of each other, or being each other
at certain times. The idea of a Trinity of the Godhead, and
specifically a Trinity on ONE being (which such teachers say you
cannot understand, see, or give literal spirit dimensions to)
that manifests itself in the form of the Father, at one time, the
Son at another time, and the Holy Spirit, at yet another time, or
I guess they maybe teach, all three beings at a time if the ONE
being so decides. 
     This teaching is so silly and frankly a stupid mind bending
theological idea, that truly only some psychologically mixed up
minds can come up with such a teaching. A little child reading
the Bible will NEVER come up with such theology as the Trinity
idea above. I know I was there as a child, reading my Bible from
age 6, in a Church of England school, a Sunday school, and in the
quiet nights of my bedroom before falling asleep. NEVER did I get
the picture that God the Father and Jesus are some part of a
mystic vague, not understandable, form of a Trinity idea that
some hold.

     This Jesus is the minister of the true sanctuary and
tabernacle, which was not made and pitched by human hands. Paul
will have much more to say about this true tabernacle in the next
chapter.

     A high priest does offer gifts and sacrifices, that is part
of his calling and part of his service in a physical tabernacle
such as the Jews had in Jerusalem at the time this epistle was
written. So also, this High Priest of the true tabernacle, made
without human hands, had gifts and service to offer to the Most
High God. It was not that he was High Priest while on earth, as a
flesh and blood human, for there were already high priests in the
physical temple in Jerusalem. And those physical high priests in
a physical temple on a literal physical part of the earth, were
in reality just a SHADOW, of the much more important office of
the real spiritual High Priest that was to come in the heavenly
Temple. 
     Paul reminds them of the truth that Moses was to build a
tabernacle PATTERNED AFTER the heavenly tabernacle (verses 1-5).

A BETTER NEW COVENANT

     This Jesus the Christ has obtained a BETTER AND MORE
EXCELLENT ministry, more excellent than any high priest could
ever imagine or obtain, serving in a physical tabernacle in the
city of Jerusalem. Hence Jesus is the MEDIATOR (the go-between,
the arbitrator, of two entering a covenant relationship) of a
BETTER covenant or TESTAMENT, which is established upon BETTER
promises. 
     One of the weaknesses of the first covenant was that the
Holy Spirit of power and nature of God, was not promises to the
Israelites as an automatic part of that covenant. This truth can
bee seen by reading Numbers chapter eleven.
     And hence together with that covenant fact, the people were
weak, they had the fault, that made that covenant very poor in
comparison with the better covenant, with better promises, that
was to come. If the first covenant had been perfect, then no
place would have been found for a second. There is no need to
re-vamp a perfect covenant. but the first covenant was far from
perfect, so a second could be given and could be promised to
come.

     Yes, the basic fault with the first covenant was a fault
with the people. Not having automatic access to the Holy Spirit,
through the first covenant, the people could not have the power
and strength and even the mind-set, to follow and serve all the
laws and commandments of the first covenant given through Moses.
All that was going to be corrected through the better covenant or
testament. 
     Paul once more uses the Scriptures, the word of God that the
Hebrew Jews were well acquainted with, to prove that it was
promised and written, that a NEW covenant, or Testament, was
going to come to the people. He quotes from Jeremiah 31:31. That
covenant was going to make sure that the LAWS of God could be
written in the hearts of the people entering that covenant
relationship with God.
     There could now be, under the new covenant, a PERSONAL
RELATIONSHIP with God the Father. Those under the new covenant
could have their sins forgiven, and have access to the very mind
and nature of God the Father.

     All of this truth Paul expounds upon in his other epistles
to other churches and people. All of those other epistles we have
covered already in this New Testament Bible Story. Then I have
also expounded myself the truth of the matter concerning
REPENTANCE, GRACE, SALVATION, FAITH, BAPTISM, LIVING TO SERVE
GOD, in many in-depth studies on this Website. 
     The apostle Paul here just sums it all up in a few
sentences, as he finishes his thoughts contained in chapter 8. 

     The promise of a new covenant makes the first covenant old,
and that which has become old and starting to decay, is read to
vanish away. 

     In Paul's day of writing this epistle, the physical Temple
in Jerusalem, still stood there, and that tabernacle's high
priest still functioned, and all the rites and offerings and
sacrifices of that tabernacle were still being performed. It had
not YET come to and end, not yet vanished away, but the day was
fast approaching when it would all vanish away. But that being
the fact, the NEW TESTAMENT, the new covenant was ALREADY IN
PLACE. Jesus the Messiah had come, had died for the sins of the
people, had been resurrected to glory, had been made High Priest
after the order of Melchisedec, had ascended to heaven to sit on
the right hand of the Majesty on High.

     The NEW COVENANT was already in effect, for whomsoever will
may come, may come and enter that new covenant relationship with
God Almighty through Jesus Christ, as Savior and High Priest on
the right hand of the Majesty of heaven, in the Tabernacle above
made without human hands. This NEW covenant was NOW functioning,
the old covenant was soon to come to a full and complete stop, to
indeed vanish away (verses 6-13).

CHAPTER 9

     Paul now goes into some details of the physical tabernacle
and service under that first covenant. The service was of divine
origin, yes, it was God who told Moses to build such a physical
tabernacle and institute the Aaronic priesthood and all that such
a line of priests with a body of tabernacle servers from the
tribe of Levi, were to perform.
     That tabernacle contained within its first section, the
candlestick, the table, the shewbread. The second section behind
a veil or curtain, called the Holiest of all, or Holy of Holiest,
contained: the golden censer, the ark of the covenant, in which
was the golden pot that had manna. There was Aaron's rod that
budded, and the tables of the covenant. On top was the mercy seat
and the Cherubims of glory shadowing the mercy seat.
     For detailed information on this tabernacle the reader is
pointed to the many pictorial Bible Dictionaries readily
available in some Public Libraries, from Bible Books Stores, or
on the Internet.  

     The high priest of the first tabernacle covenant went into
the first section of that tabernacle on a daily basis to do the
daily service of worship for the people towards God. But he could
only go in to the Most Holy place ONLY ONCE a year, on the Feast
day of Atonement. He went into this Holy of Holiest with BLOOD,
for himself and the people, he and they were mere human being
with sins. 
     Paul said, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that
this once a year entry into the Holiest place behind the curtain,
signified that the way to God the father in the Holy place of
heaven was not possible for the vast majority of the people, only
for the select few. The high priest would represent the FEW under
the old covenant that were allowed to have the Holy Spirit and
access to God the Father. These relatively few would include
people like Abraham, Moses, David and others of faith that are
mentioned in Hebrews 11.

     All of this past service in the old tabernacle under the old
covenant, was a TYPE, a FIGURE, for a deeper spiritual truth and
meaning. Those gifts offered under the old covenant in the
tabernacle, would not make him that did the service PERFECT. No
real spiritual cleansing and personal connection with God could
come about by offering physical meat and drink offerings, in a
physical tabernacle. Yet this outward physical service was to be
done under the old covenant, it was IMPOSED, ordained, commanded
to be performed by the people of ancient Israel, UNTIL, ONLY
UNTIL, THE TIME OF REFORMATION!

     There was to come a time of REFORM, a much deeper SPIRITUAL
REFORM, a time when the physical was to pass away, vanish away,
and a NEW covenant, a NEW TESTAMENT, was to be introduced to the
people, to whomsoever would come. To whomsoever would take Christ
Jesus as God's Son, as Savior, as High Priest of that new
covenant.

     It is Christ who has become the High Priest of good things
to come, in a greater and more perfect tabernacle, made not with
human hands, neither by the blood of goats and sheep, BUT through
His OWN BLOOD, death on the cross, He was found worthy to bear
the sins of the world, and enter into the Holy of Holiest, thus
having obtained eternal redemption for US!

     There was a type of reconciling ancient Israel to God, under
the old covenant and rites of the tabernacle. There was a
sanctifying of the flesh so to speak, under the old covenant. By
having a tabernacle and all its physical service through physical
animals and grain and bread offerings, there would be at least a
somewhat sanctifying of the flesh - the people of Israel would
continue to live, they would continue to reap blessings from God,
be His people, be used to glorify God to the rest of the world.
As long as their hearts were right in performing this outward and
physical service to God, as long as it gave them a mind somewhat
with God in the centre, it would preserve their physical flesh.
All the rites of the physical did have some good towards their
flesh. Yet in a perfect spiritual way ..... ah, well as Paul went
on to say:

"How MUCH MORE shall the BLOOD of Christ, who through the eternal
Spirit offered Himself without fault (without sin) to God, PURGE
your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?" (verses
1-13).

     Jesus is therefore the MEDIATOR (the High Priest for us
towards God the Father) of the NEW TESTAMENT. Now Paul gets to
the real reality of it all, this is not just a "covenant" (an
agreement between two parties) - it is MORE  than that, it is a
TESTAMENT. Like a "last will and testament," that people leave to
be executed or performed AFTER they DIE! 

     And in verse 15, is the answer to the question about those
under the old testament, called of God, given the Holy Spirit,
and will they be SAVED, and HOW will they be saved. Will they be
saved in a different way from us under the New Testament? NO, NOT
AT ALL! They will be saved, yes indeed, that is seen clearly from
chapter 11 and many other parts of the Bible. They will be saved
as WE ARE SAVED .... by GRACE, through faith, in the sacrifice
and BLOOD of Jesus Christ. Those called under the old testament
LOOKED AHEAD to the blood of Christ, they had faith in what was
promised to come. We today, look back in faith, to what did come
to pass .... Jesus dies to save sinners. God so loved the world
that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him,
should not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16).
     Salvation is the SAME for all people, young or old, those
who lived thousands of years ago and those who will yet live in
the future. There is name other name under heaven whereby you can
be saved. All must look to God in faith, through the blood of
Christ, for the forgiveness of sins. God is no respecter of
persons. Salvation for all people has always been the same and
will forever be the same. Jesus is Lord and Savior, past,
present, and future.

     Verses 16-22, give the proof that this New Covenant is MUCH
MORE than a covenant, it is a TESTAMENT! A Testament is in force
AFTER the death of the testator. Where there is a testament there
needs to be the death of the testator. While the person lives the
last will and testament is not in force. It only comes into
effect AFTER the death of the one who is the testator of the
testament.

     Paul, as the great scholar he was of the word of God, nails
it down, shows the proof of all this. He takes his readers, the
Hebrew Jews, Hebrew Israelites, back to the very beginning of the
forming and ratifying, sealing, the first testament. It is found
in Exodus 24:1-11. There it is in CLEAR black and white - the
first testament was ratified WITH BLOOD, with DEATH!

     He says that in law of the Lord just about all things are
purged with BLOOD. And WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO
REMISSION! 

     It is the way the Lord has decreed it. It is the way He
planned it to be before the world was. I suppose we could argue
that God could have done it this way or that way. It makes no
difference as to what we may think about how the Almighty could
have reconciled the world to Himself, could have forgiven sins,
and could have made it possible for human kind to be saved and
have eternal life. It is the way that God decided to do it, that
is the end of the matter, that is the "Thus says the Lord" on the
subject.
     He decided BEFORE the foundation of the world that a member
of the very Godhead would need to come to earth, as a human
person, live a perfect life, and shed His blood, to cleanse all
sins from all people, be resurrected to life and then be seated
on the right hand of the Majesty oh High, as High Priest, for
interceding work between the Father and His children.

     The pattern of the heavenly needed a greater sacrifice than
that of earthy things. Jesus needed to offer himself just ONCE in
the heavenly Holy of Holiest. Jesus did not enter the physical
Holy Place in some physical tabernacle in a physical city on a
physical earth. He entered the heavenly place, not made with
human hands, to appear in the presence of God FOR US.
     He did not need to offer Himself many times, as the old
covenant high priest had to do, every year going into the Most
Holy place on the Day of Atonement. He needed to die and offer
Himself just ONCE, or otherwise He would needs have to die over
and over again. 
     He came ONCE in the end of the age (in passing - note the
"end of the age" is used - that was two thousand years ago - so
the phrase "end of the age" can have a broader meaning at times
than just before Christ will return) to put away sin by the
sacrifice of Himself.

     As is the basic true saying that it is appointed unto men to
die once, and after that the judgment day, so Christ was ONCE
offered to bear the sins of many, and unto them that look for Him
shall He appear the second time, without sin unto salvation
(verses 23-28).

     What glorious truths and salvation we are reading about.
What LOVE both the Father and His Son have for us. You need to
read and re-read and continue to read the New Testament Bible
Story as contained in the Gospels and all the rest of the New
Testament. In it was the words of LIFE, the only way you can be
saved, be glorified, inherit eternal life in the very family
Kingdom of God. Let the words of the New Testament be written in
your heart.

                      .................

Written January 2007

Sunday, March 15, 2026

HEBREWS-- CHAP. #7

 

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Chapter One-hundred-three:

Epistle to Hebrews - chap.7 - Melchisedec

                   Epistle to Hebrews #10


CHAPTER SEVEN

     The priest Melchisedec is claimed by some to have been an
ordinary human man, just like a priest today in the Roman
Catholic church, only this Melchisedec was a priest of the Most
High God.
     This teaching claims that the phrase "without father,
without mother" is just simply stating that his physical pedigree
was lost or unknown, that there is no "record" of it found
anywhere.
     This to me seems a little far-out when you consider other
pedigrees recorded and preserved in and among the people of God.
And if this Melchisedec was so famous and so great a priest of
the Most high God, then surely some record of from who he was
would have been preserved, even if only a few generations of his
pedigree before or after.

     This famous priest of old also had "neither beginning of
days nor end of life." I guess those who believe this priest was
from no divine Godhead, who probably argue that this phrase is
repeating the previous idea of the previous phrase - physical
pedigree records were lost or not recorded or handed down to
anyone.
     Once more I contend that happening would have been VERY
UNLIKELY considering the importance that Paul gives to this man
in connection with Jesus the Christ, and the connection given in
a prophecy of the OT that connects this Melchisedec with Christ
(Psalm 110:4).

     Then I maintain that reading the Bible with the mind of a
child (remember Jesus saying that unless you become like a child
you will not enter the Kingdom of God), the phrase "neither
beginning of days nor end of life" is pretty simple to
understand. It does not take a degree in theology, or some fancy
PhD interpretation - the words in English or Greek, are very
clear - no beginning of days nor end of life, is telling you that
this man, this priest of the Most High God, was ETERNAL!!

     Now, there were ALL KINDS of words in the Greek language,
the language was not reduced to just a mere few - limited - or
lacking vocabulary. If Paul was wanting us to understand that
this priest Melchisedec was merely like any other human priest of
the past thousands of years, then he could have very easily have
written with words "his pedigree is lost or not recorded" or "the
record of who his mother and father were have not been handed
down to us."

     I maintain the very words and phrases used by Paul are a
clear instruction to us that Paul was meaning to inform us that
this Melchisedec was NOT from any human flesh and blood mother
and father, but that this priest of the Most High God was himself
ETERNAL, from the very Godhead of eternity.

     The ancient Priest was KING of RIGHTEOUSNESS and KING of
PEACE!  Can any mere human priest of human parents, be qualified
to carry such titles. You read about the perfect Job, and all his
righteousness, yet he is never given the title "King of
Righteousness" by God. The Almighty does speak very well indeed
of him, the first few chapters of Job, make this clear, yet no
title of "King of Righteousness" is granted to perfect Job.

     Then we need to put together two phrases - one in verse one
and the other in verse three. "For this Melchisedec, king of
peace, priest of the Most High God....made like until the Son of
God, abideth a priest continually."

     Notice Daniel 7:13. "I saw in the night vision, and, behold,
one like unto the Son of man came with clouds of heaven, and came
to the Ancient of Days..."
     Like unto the Son of man ... Like unto the Son of God. The
next verse in Daniel makes it clear that this "like unto the Son
of man" is none other than the Christ who will rule all nations.
The one who Daniel saw coming to the Ancient of Days was and is
Jesus the Christ. The Melchisedec of old, whom Abraham met and
gave a tithe to, was made like unto the Son of God. In other
words this SAME person LATER became the one whom we call Jesus
Christ. 
     Paul is telling us that this great priest of Salem - King of
Peace, this King of righteousness - who had no mother or father,
who had no beginning of days nor end of life, this eternal one,
WAS LATER MADE LIKE UNTO THE SON OF GOD, who now lives as High
Priest in heaven above, sitting on the right hand of the Most
High God, the Father.

     Abraham, whom the Hebrews looked upon as one of their great
fathers of old, was NOTHING in comparison to this Melchisedec
priest of the Most High God. So there was no need to boast about
or get all vain in mind, towards being some physical person
descended from a physical man called Abraham, when Abraham, was
MUCH less than Melchisedec, and to whom Abraham gave honor and
homage and a tithe. Then this Melchisedec who was eternal, a part
of the very eternal Godhead, later became the very Jesus the
Christ, the Savior of the world, the REALLY great one, whom the
Hebrews needed to give first place in their lives, give their
lives, mind, and heart, to Him, who STILL lives (as he always
did) and is today the Priest above priests, who is the High
Priest of all and any high priest.

     If this Melchisedec was only a mere human priest just as
Aaron was, and any priest in Israel since Aaron, and just one
priest of a line of physical human priests that lived before and
after Melchisedec, WHY connect Melchisedec? Why not connect
Aaron? Or some other priest of the Most High God. Why connect
this Melchisedec, unless it is simply to show Abraham giving a
tithe to him, which Paul does connect later with Aaron and a
change in the priesthood and the law.

     I contend the very words used by Paul in connecting
Melchisedec with the Son of God, is to show the Hebrews that ONE
much greater than Abraham existed in Abraham's day, and that that
greater one was eternal, and later that one became the very
person of Jesus Christ, who now lives and is a Priest forever for
us humans interceding for us, between us and the Father. I
believe this is Paul's argument to the Hebrews. His thought to
them is - get your minds off any physical high priest and
physical Aaron priesthood, and get it on the ONE who was THE
GREAT Priest of the Most High in Abraham's day and is STILL the
High Priest for us humans today - Jesus the Christ. For
Melchisedec and Christ were and are the ONE SAME PERSON!

     The question has arisen, "Why did an eternal being, a member
of the Godhead, come to earth in Abraham's day (who knows
possibly before and after Abraham) and live on earth as Priest to
the Most High God?
     The answer is not given in Scripture in any clear precise
way. One thing we can know though is, God can do whatever He
desires to do, for whatever reasons He knows. Some times He tells
us the reasons, sometimes He tells us not. Some things are hidden
from us, some things are revealed to us. There are mysteries of
God hidden from our eyes and understanding, and there are
mysteries of God revealed to us. The apostle Paul makes this
clear in many passages in his epistles. Then he adds in one that
even today in the Gospel age (where so much has been revealed to
us) we often look through a glass darkly. But one day we shall
know even as we are known.

     We shall continue with the thoughts and teachings of Paul on
the old Israel priesthood and the commandment to take tithes, as
it was connected to Abraham and Melchisedec, and as it is still
connected to the priesthood of Christ who was made after the
order of Melchisedec. We shall continue with all that in the next
chapter of this New Testament Bible Story.

                      .................

Written January 200

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Chapter One-hundred-four:

Epistle to Hebrews #11

                   
                                    Epistle to Hebrews #11

                                     Chapter 7 continued


THE LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD
AND TITHING

     Paul has spoken about the great man Abraham, yet great as he
was to the Hebrews, he was not as great as the King of
Righteousness - the eternal Priest of the Most High God -
Melchisedec. Abraham gave this Priest a tithe - a tenth of the
spoils he had taken as he freed Lot from captivity. 
     Then we come to the time of Levi - a tribe of Israel. Two of
the very greatest institutions in ancient Israel was the
LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD and TITHING to that priesthood. Paul is
arguing that there was a GREATER Priest BEFORE Levi - and that
TITHING was also before Levi. He proves his point by showing the
Hebrews the fact of Abraham tithing to Melchisedec, way before
the days of Moses and the tribes of Israel.

     As the days were fast approaching when the Temple in
Jerusalem would be destroyed, when the Levitical Priesthood would
come to an end, when all the rituals in the Temple system would
stop, when tithing to that Levi priesthood would stop per se; the
question needed to be asked and answered: "When the Levi
Priesthood and tithing to them would come to a stop, did that
mean there was NO more Priesthood and no more Tithing?"

     Paul argues that such being the case of no more Levi
Priesthood and tithing to them, does NOT automatically mean NO
MORE Priesthood and NO MORE tithing.

     Tithing Paul argues was way before Levi, in fact Levi
through the loins of Abraham, payed tithes, by tithing to
Melchisedec. And this Priest Paul has demonstrated was ETERNAL -
a member of the eternal GODHEAD, and that individual eventually
became the Jesus Christ of the New Testament, as was foretold in
the prophecy of Psalm 110.

     Paul argues that IF perfection should have come about
through Levi and that Priesthood, then why was there a prophecy
that ANOTHER would arise AFTER the order of Melchisedec, and not
after the order of Aaron and Levi? Here he proves that the Levi
Priesthood was INFERIOR to the GREAT Melchisedec Priesthood, and
that it was prophesied that there would come a CHANGE of
Priesthood - from Levi to Melchisedec.
     And so BEING A CHANGE in the PRIESTHOOD, there is a change
in the LAW also!
     What law is Paul in the context of his argument, talking
about? Why the LAW of TITHING! And also the law of High Priest
and the NT Priesthood.
     Whom it was prophesied about, was NOT FROM Levi, but from
JUDAH, which tribe never under the Old Covenant served at the
altar in the Tabernacle or Temple.
     The LORD who was to take the order of Melchisedec was from
Judah! And the order that the Lord Jesus would take was not an
order of carnal physical corrupt man, but the order of the power
of an endless life (verse 16).

     Yes, the Priest Melchisedec was ETERNAL - an order of no
physical human life. That same individual who was functioning for
a time on this earth as the Priest of the Most High God, was to
become the Godhead being who was to be made flesh and blood, die
for the sins of the world, be the Savior of mankind, be raised
from the dead, and be given the eternal Priesthood of the order
of Melchisedec. 
     There was to be a disannulling of the WEAK commandment of
the Levi Priesthood, which in reality could save no one to
eternal life through its carnal ordinances and physical
institutions of animal sacrifices. The Old Covenant per se did
not have eternal life promised in its laws. There was always to
be a BETTER WAY, a better HOPE, by which we draw nigh to God, by
which we can be reconciled and justified, be forgiven sins and be
saved. 
     Throughout the New Testament and the writings of Paul, we
are told over and over again, what that NEW HOPE WAS - it was
justification and salvation through the blood of Jesus the Christ
- the High Priest after the order of Melchisedec. 

     There was ALWAYS to be a CHANGE of Priesthood and tithing -
it was ALWAYS prophesied - the entire Old Testament FORETOLD IT!
The Old Covenant with the tribe of Levi as Priesthood and tithing
to that system, was NEVER the way to perfection or eternal life.
     Jesus the Christ was to take control of the New Testament,
the New Covenant PRIESTHOOD, there was to be a CHANGE IN THE LAW
of priesthood and tithing!

     Neither the Priesthood or Tithing was EVER to be "abolished"
or "done away with" - it was to be CHANGED - from Levi to Judah,
and more specific to Jesus Christ - His Priesthood.

     As the old Priesthood was instituted by an oath, so God
Himself swore by Himself that Jesus would receive the order of
Priesthood from that of Melchisedec (verse 21).

     Jesus was to be made the security of a BETTER TESTAMENT! The
old human Priests DIED, they could not continue because death
would remove them. But Jesus LIVES FOREVER, and hence His
Priesthood does not pass from one human person to another, but
continues forever more.
     And so Paul exclaims, because Christ has an eternal
Priesthood He is able to save those who come to God through Him,
for He can INTERCEDE for them, plead their cause, obtain mercy
and forgiveness from the Father, and save them to the uttermost.
That High Priest on High became one of us, came as human flesh
and blood, went through life knowing what it was like to be
human, to be tempted in all points as we are, yet remain sinless.
This GREATEST High Priest does not have to offer up daily
sacrifices as the Priests of Levi did, first for themselves and
then for others. Jesus after the order of the Melchisedec
Priesthood, offered Himself ONCE for sins.

     The Old Covenant law made imperfect men as Priests, but the
word of the promise and oath of the Most High God, made the Son
of God, THE High Priest forever (verse 28).

     The Priesthood and Tithing to that Priesthood has NOT been
abolished, it has been CHANGED - from Levi to Judah - from the
line of Aaron to the line of Christ, and His Priesthood.

     As long as the Temple stood in Jerusalem, as long as the
Levitical Priesthood stood, then tithing to that Priesthood was
in effect, and people then had the right, even NT Christians, to
tithe to that Levi Priesthood. But Paul is arguing that there is
anotherBETTER Priesthood in force - the eternal Melchisedec
Priest - the one Jesus Christ was made after the order of.
Tithing to that Priesthood was also in effect, if Christians
wanted to tithe to that Priesthood.
     Paul's argument is that WHEN the Levi Priesthood and the
Temple would come to an end, tithing to the eternal Melchisedec/
Christ Priesthood would NOT END!

                             .................

Written January 2007 

 


 

HEBREWS-- CHAP. #5, #6

 


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Chapter One-hundred-two:

Epistle to Hebrews - Chapters Five and Six

                  
                               Epistle to Hebrews #9


CHAPTER FIVE

     The duty of the High Priest in religion is to offer both
gifts and sacrifices - of course we are speaking in times past
before the New Covenant age of Christianity.
     A High Priest being human, can also have compassion on those
who are not perfect, who sin, and who miss the mark of holiness.
The Priest being not perfect either, must also give offerings for
his sins. 
     Under the Old Covenant in Israel, the High Priest was
appointed by God as Aaron was, the calling not being men's ideas,
but the calling and service was from God. The Hebrews knew all
this truth, hence Paul leads into the same arguments of truth for
Jesus Christ. It was not some fancy vain idea of Christ to become
a High Priest for mankind towards God the Father. It was the
Father's will and plan and desire to have Jesus born through the
Holy Spirit into a human man. Hence the Scriptures can say, "You
art my Son this day I have begotten you" (Psalm 2:7).
     And also the Scripture says, "You are a Priest after the
order of Melchizedek" (Psalm 110:6).
     We shall come back with Paul later, to a more detailed
connection and typology with Christ and Melchizedek, in chapter
7.

     Jesus was human as well as divine. Yes fully human and fully
divine. Jesus needed to be close to the Father in prayers and
supplications, with at times strong crying and even tears, unto
Him that was able to save Him from sin and death. And the Father
was indeed well pleased and did hear and did provide Jesus with
the Holy Spirit without measure, we are told in the Gospels.
Jesus needed mighty strength and power to withstand the
temptations and power of the Devil, and the pull of human nature.
Together with those factors and the factor of living in a society
that was sinful in many ways, it is mighty difficult to remain
sinless. Think about it. You may at times be close enough to God
to have no wrong thought, no wrong word, no wrong action. Maybe
you can be like that for an hour, maybe a few hours, maybe a half
day, possibility even a whole day. But think about having to try
and live like that day after day, week after week, month after
month, year after year!
     Surely living perfect and holy all your life, would take
MUCH prayer, MUCH supplication, many heart-felt TEARS at times.
     It was no easy cake walk for Jesus to remain sinless, why
just one sin from Him, and it would have been all over, and
mankind would or could never be saved to eternal glory in the
family of God.
     Jesus had to put forth great personal effort of mind to be
always so close to the Father, that with the help of the power of
the Holy Spirit, He could remain sinless. Yes, he was the Son of
God in a miraculous way, but He learned day after day just what
it meant to be OBEDIENT. Jesus learnt from the daily situations
of life that we encounter and which can effect our thinking and
our words and our actions, what it was like and what was needed
to continually be obedient to the will and way of the Father.

     Then when it was all finished for Him in this physical flesh
and blood life, He was glorified to eternal PERFECTION, where sin
could never again even be a temptation. Paul tells us also an
important truth here. Jesus was the AUTHOR - the one to write the
book so to speak - for eternal salvation. It is a truth that
clearly tells us that NO OTHER physical person who has EVER
lived, has EVER gained as yet, eternal salvation in glorious
perfection. No, not Enoch, no not, Moses, no not Elijah - NO ONE
except Christ has been glorified to eternal perfection of
salvation. Elsewhere in the writings of Paul he tells us that
Christ Jesus has PRE-EMINENCE in ALL things. And here in Hebrews,
part of that pre-eminence is being the AUTHOR or salvation. Jesus
has written the book on how physical people can obtain and
inherit eternal salvation.
Enoch, Moses, and Elijah, are NOT in heaven, they are
STILL dead, in their graves, and await the resurrection
of the dead. Paul also again clearly tells us this is so at the
end of Hebrews chapter 11. 

     If we OBEY Christ we can also inherit eternal salvation in
glorious perfection.

     Christ Jesus was called of God, and He was called to be a
High Priest AFTER THE ORDER of "Melchizedek." Paul said he could
say many things about this truth, but it would be hard to utter
these things to them, because they had dulled their ears to
hearing such wonders and truths. Paul got into some straight
talk, shoot from the hip words, at times, with people who had
closed their ears and mind to wonderful truths of God.
     Paul told them that THEY, those Hebrews should by now have
become TEACHERS of these truths, yet they themselves needed to be
taught AGAIN, the FIRST principles of God. They needed the MILK
of the word of truth, and could not digest strong meat. 
     What a sad state in the life of a Christian to be at the
point of not hearing God's word speak to you, revealing to you
deep and deeper things of the meat of the Father's truths. It is
something we need to be watchful with all of our lives, to never
be dull of hearing, complacent, having a "oh hum, ain't
interested in exploring deeper into God's word" attitude. We are
told by the apostle Peter to "grow in grace and knowledge" - we
can not do that if we are not "thinking" - "reading" - studying"
- "meditating" - "searching" - and always open to let the Holy
Spirit lead us into all truths. It's the attitude of having an
open mind, yet at the same time not so open that our brains fall
out, and then being pushed around with every wind of doctrine,
tossed here and there. It is having a fine balance between the
two. It can be done. It is not easy, and many have not learned
HOW to be balanced, and many have made shipwreck their eternal
salvation. But with God all things are possible. I personally
have experienced the wonder of it all, as God has led me, via His
Holy Spirit into all truths, certainly all truths that are
required for salvation, and many truths that are just great to
know, and open up and bring to life the power, and majesty, and
plan of the Almighty, as He works His work on this earth here
below.

     Paul says that STRONG MEAT belongs to those who have MATURED
in spirituality, who have been exercised by God's word, who use
it daily to exercise their spiritual muscles and build up their
strength of correct senses to discern both that which is evil and
that which is good (verses 1-14).

CHAPTER SIX

     Paul urges his readers to now leave the basic principles and
truths of God and move on to greater perfection. Yes, the basic
truths we need to clearly know, but after knowing them, we do not
stand still, we do not "tread water" but we SWIM on! 
     The foundational, tread the water truths of God, are now
listed for us. They are: REPENTANCE from dead works, FAITH
towards God, the teachings of BAPTISMS, the LAYING ON OF HANDS,
the RESURRECTION of the dead, and eternal PUNISHMENT.

     All these foundational truths are FULLY explored in the form
of IN-DEPTH studies.

     Paul gives a grave and sober truth here. Those two have been
called and chosen, who have truly been partakers of the heavenly
gift, who have been enlightened, who have had the Holy Spirit,
and who have indeed tasted the good word of God and the very
power of the age to come. IF THEY SHALL FALL AWAY, TO RENEW THEM
AGAIN TO REPENTANCE, as they have crucified the Son of God once
more, and so have put Him to open shame.
     What words to meditate upon! What soberness they contain!
What seriousness is in them! They are there in the holy word of
God. How many have lived and died being a part of this company
that cannot be renewed to repentance, only the resurrection will
tell.
     The illustration of the physical earth is now given. The
water from God comes on the earth, without partiality in the
general terms of it all, and some lands dressed and cared for by
men, bring forth foods fit for eating, but some parts of the land
bring forth thorns and briers, which are rejected, and even
cursed sometimes, whose end is to be gathered and burned in the
fire.

     As we read through the Gospels and the rest of the New
Testament, such illustrations of the good and bad, the wheat and
tares, the sheep and goats, are repeated often times. The bad,
the thorns and the briers, are one day to be gathered together
and cast into the furnace of fire, to be burned up, in the second
death that is spoken about in Revelation 21.
   
     Paul does not want to leave them in utter despair and
downcast, as if he is telling them that THEY are in a hopeless
position, and can only face the fire of destruction. No, he does
NOT believe they are beyond all hope of salvation. In fact he
knows they have done well in the past, have had good works, labor
of love, showing it in the way they have served God and served
the saints, even ARE STILL serving the saints. He wants them to
CONTINUE to show the same DILIGENCE, to the full assurance of the
hope, unto THE END! He wants them to not be SLOTHFUL, lazy,
sleepy, in their spirituality, but to be followers of those who
through FAITH and PATIENCE (living and practicing what is right
in the sight of God) will INHERIT the promises pertaining to
salvation.

     He gives them the example of one of their great old fathers
- Abraham. He was faithful, he believed God, he obeyed God, he
served the Almighty. God had promised that his very descendants
in the flesh would be multiplied as the stars of heaven. Abraham
patiently endured, walking with God, serving Him, obeying Him,
and he finally received the son of promise.
     The Eternal had first PROMISED to Abraham, then God SWORE by
Himself, to Abraham that this would be so. There is none greater
than God, hence God swore by Himself. Men can make contracts with
each other, swear by this or that, to give some kind of assurance
to other men, that it will be so. But God has no greater to swear
by, so he swore on Himself, and it is written God cannot lie. 

     The AMPLIFIED BIBLE gives the sense of the last verses of
this chapter.

     "Accordingly God also, in His desire to show more
     convincingly and beyond doubt to those who were to inherit
     the promise, the unchangeableness of His purpose and plan,
     intervened (mediated) with an oath. This was so that, by two
     changeable things (His promise and His oath) in which it is
     impossible for God ever to prove false or deceive us, we who
     have fled (to Him) for refuge, might have mighty indwelling
     strength and strong encouragement to grasp and hold fast the
     hope appointed for us and set before (us). (Now) we have
     this (hope) as a sure and steadfast anchor of the soul (it
     cannot slip and it cannot break down under whoever steps
     out upon it - a hope) that reaches farther and enters into
     (the very certainty of the Presence) within the veil (Lev.
     16:2). Where Jesus has entered in for us (in advance), a
     Forerunner having become a High Priest forever after the
     order (with the rank) of Melchizedek (Psalm 110:4)." 
     (verses 1-20).

     Paul again ends his thought by bringing his readers back to
Jesus as being HIGH PRIEST in heaven above. The very High Priest
of the rank of the famous Melchizedek to whom their great father
Abraham gave homage. 

     Paul will now go on in chapter 7, with the important
connection between Melchizedek and Jesus Christ. The connection
is far greater than any spirituality that could be given to Aaron
and the Levitical Priesthood or any High Priest coming from that
line of Aaron and Levi.

                            ..................

Written December 2006

Saturday, March 14, 2026

HEBREWS CHAPTER #1, #2, #3, #4

 

 New Testament Bible
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Chapter One Hundred:

Hebrews - Chapter One

                   


                                     Epistle to Hebrews #7


CHAPTER ONE

     God had spoken in various past times and in different ways
to the ancient Israelites, by the prophets of old. As we read
through the Old Testament, we can clearly see the truth of what
Paul stated in the opening verse of the epistle to the Hebrews.
The many and diverse ways God's spoke to the Israelites gives us
the clear picture that the Almighty does work in different and
wonderful ways His work on this earth, as He carries out His
overall plan of salvation for the world and for the peoples of
Israel.
     Then in verse two Paul says God "Hath, in THESE LAST DAYS,
spoken unto US, by His Son....."  Did you catch it? "These LAST
DAYS." Jesus had come in "these last days" and spoken the words
of God the Father. Ah, so the phrase "last days" or "end times"
CAN mean the last 2,000 years since the time Jesus walked this
earth in the flesh, and preached the good news of the gospel. In
1 JOHN 2:18, we can also see that John understood "the last time"
to mean the very time he was living in. There is a broader span
of time that can be meant by the phrase "last time" or "end time"
than JUST the last few years of this age before Jesus returns to
earth to set up the Kingdom of God on earth.
     With this in mind, we need to be careful about narrowing
down the phrase "last time" or "end time" - people often today
say, "We are living in the end time."  Well, true enough, but
"end time" or "last days" can mean the last 2,000 years. Hence we
really do NOT have much idea as to when Jesus will return. It
could still be decades away or even a hundred years or so. All we
can do is watch the signs of the times .... WATCH, as Jesus said
we were to do. Time for God is not anywhere near time for us.
What seems like a long time to us, is but a blink of the eye to
God. How long the Father will allow the events of prophecy to
manifest themselves and come to pass, is entirely up to Him. He
can lengthen them out or shorten them up, as He sees fit.
Certainly there is MUCH in prophecy to yet take place, so we
watch, and we watch. And through it all we must remember that
Christ's coming is as close for us as our death. Will He return
in the life time of you who are reading these studies? Maybe, but
it is a maybe, for it maybe not. I'm sure many of the apostles of
the first century Church of God, thought Jesus' return would
never be at least 2,000 years away. 
     The "last days" can be way longer than many would like to
think it is. The main thing is to remain faithful to the way of
the Lord, to grow in grace and knowledge, and to endure to the
end of whatever physical life has been, or will be given to us.

     God has spoken to us through His Son in these last days, and
the Son was appointed heir of all things. 
Paul plainly tells us that it was the Son who MADE THE
WORLDS. He also told us the same truth in his epistle to the
Colossians, chapter 1, verses 15-18. Jesus, was the CREATOR of
all that IS, in this physical world and in the unseen "spirit"
world.

     Jesus was also the very brightness of God's glory. No doubt
a double meaning here. He was the brightness of God's character
and nature, and He is in the very literal brightness today in
glory as we can see from the vision the apostle John had, as
recorded in the first chapter of the book of Revelation, where we
are given the picture of what Jesus looks like today in the
heaven of God's throne.
     Jesus was the EXPRESS IMAGE of the Father's person. You may
remember that one of the twelve asked Jesus to show them all,
plainly, the Father. Jesus replied that they who had seen Him had
seen the Father also.
     Jesus also upholds ALL THINGS by the very power of His word.
He and the Father are indeed ONE! They are two individual
persons, but in ALL respects they are the same. The only
difference is that, after Jesus had purged our sins on the cross,
he went back to heaven and is sitting on the Father's RIGHT HAND.
He is not sitting on top of the Father. He did not push the
Father off the heavenly throne, and take His place. The NT
Scriptures make it very clear that Jesus is AT the Father's RIGHT
HAND. The images of the throne room as given in the book of
Revelation, show the Father to be on the heavenly throne, and
Jesus at His RIGHT HAND. The Father is the MAJESTY ON HIGH. The
Father is SUPREME in AUTHORITY. The Father is HEAD of Christ.
That truth is given in 1 Corinthians 11:3. I maintain that a
child reading the NT will come to see very clearly that the
Father is head of Christ. I came to see this when I was
about 9 years old. I came to see, just by reading the NT, that
there is no such doctrine as the "Trinity." God is NOT three in
one, or one in three. 
     The Trinity doctrine is very complicated by the way some
teach it, so much so that many just throw up their hands and say,
"It's just not possible to understand God."  It is a mystery they
will tell you. Nothing could be further from the TRUTH!! God has
over and over again made it clear in His word, concerning Himself
and His Son. WHAT THEY ARE LIKE IS REVEALED TO US.

     Jesus sits at the RIGHT HAND of the Father, the Majesty on
High (verses 1-3).

     Paul now goes on to prove that the Son of God is way, way
more superior than the angels. He has first of all inherited and
obtained a more excellent name than what angels have. Jesus has
the name of SON of God. From Psalm 2:7 we learn that God had
foretold, "You are my SON, this day I have begotten you." No
angel was ever called the begotten son of God. Certainly not in
the way it was fulfilled in Christ Jesus. Jesus was UNIQUE in
birth. It was a MIRACULOUS and mind-numbing event, that no angel
has ever come close to having duplicated on themselves. 
     Paul then takes a verse from 2 Samuel 7:14, and applies it
to the nature of the birth of Jesus the Christ. "I will be unto
him a Father, and He shall be to me a Son." 
     Very interesting, in the nature of prophecy, is this example.
The context of it not suggesting at all that this would
be a prophecy of the relationship of the heavenly Father to His
Son Christ Jesus. The context of 2 Samuel 7 is the context of
David, the King of Israel. But as given here in Hebrews it is
applied to God the Father having a Son, in a very special way,
which none of the angels were ever destined to have happen to
them.
     And once more, using the Greek Septuagint version, Paul
renders Deut.32:43, as a prophecy of the first begotten of the
Father (Jesus the Christ) coming into the world and for the
angels of God to WORSHIP Him! 
     Amazing, so it will be to some. Deut.32:43 in the Hebrew and
hence in the KJV is not close to the rendition of the LXX or
Greek Septuagint. The reader is asked to study the study on this
Website called, "Paul's Use of the Old Testament." That study is
a truth that will shock most of you, the truth of how the Greek
translations of the Old Testament were used, especially by the
apostle Paul, the mighty Hebrew scholar, taught at the feet of
the famous Gamaliel of Judea, and then by Christ Himself (as Paul
tells us in the letter to the Galatians).
     The angels were to WORSHIP Christ, the Son of God the
Father. Now, angels do not worship each other, and worship is
only towards God. No other creature is worthy or holy enough to
be worshipped, only God is worthy and righteous and holy enough
to be WORSHIPPED. 
     Jesus was worthy and holy enough, perfect enough, godly
enough, to be worshipped. Only He was of the Godhead, made into
flesh and blood. But yet called Immanuel, by the prophet Isaiah,
which means, God with us. He was part of the Godhead from
eternity past. He did not grasp as being in the Godhead, but
emptied Himself, humbled Himself, put aside being in the very
Godhead, and came to earth as flesh and blood (all this Paul has
taught before in Philippians 2:5-11).

     We shall see very shortly that Jesus is called "God" - He
has a name with the title and very name "God" attached to it - He
is Jesus Christ God. He is God the Son. The Father is God the
Father. Both bear the name "God."  One is God the Father, the
other is God the Son.

     It was written of the angels that they were angel spirits,
and servants who could be like a flame fire (Psalm 104:4). A
flame of fire is nothing compared to the SUN. In Revelation
chapter one, Jesus EYES are like a flame of fire, but His
countenance is like the SUN in its full strength. No angel is
anywhere near being like God in appearance or in anything that
God IS! (verses 4-7).

JESUS IS CALLED "GOD" 

     Verses 8 and 9, of Hebrews one, makes it as clear as the sun
shining in a cloudless day, that Jesus bears the name "God"! He
is then God the Son, or as stated before, Jesus Christ God.
     The word "God" is used in various ways in the NT. It is used
as a "personal name" for God the Father, in some contexts. It is
used as a name of Jesus in some contexts. It is used as a "sur-
name" for all in the Godhead or in the very Family of God. Hence
Jesus can be rightfully called Jesus Christ God. The Father is
God, and the Son is God, both in the Godhead. Both being separate
individual persons, with spirit bodies, so God the Son can sit at
the right hand of God the Father, in the heavenly throne room. It
is quite simple really. The Godhead consists as of today, TWO
BEINGS, both bearing the name "God." The Godhead is NOT a
Trinity, in any way that Trinitarians like to teach. The Godhead
is TWO beings, personal beings, with their own personal spirit
bodies. One is the being we call God the Father, and the other is
the one that sits on His right hand, we call the Son of God, or
Jesus Christ God.

     We have Paul proving from the very Scriptures of God the
Father, that Jesus, has the name "God." He quotes from Psalm
46:6,7, "Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever, a sceptre of
righteousness is the sceptre of thy Kingdom. You have loved
righteousness, and hated iniquity, therefore GOD, even thy God
has anointed you with oil of gladness above your fellows."
     Jesus is here called "God" and yet we also see that Jesus
has a "God" who has appointed and anointed Him in such a way (for
His love of and loyalty to righteousness) that is ABOVE any other
anywhere in the whole created universe. The rest of the NT proves
beyond any doubt that of all human flesh and blood people, of all
the angels and created beings in the unseen world, Jesus
inherited from physical life a position of glory ABOVE any one,
and is seated at the right hand of the Majesty on High. 
     The NT declares that Jesus existed from eternity, that he
was God and was WITH God (John chapter one), that He put aside
that position in the very Godhead, to become a physical man, so
He could conquer sin and Satan, be a perfect sacrifice through
His shed blood on the cross, and so redeem mankind, and make
their salvation possible. He was so faithful and righteous (never
having any sin, no not one) to His offering Himself as the
atoning sacrifice for any and all people, that in His
resurrection, He was made again part of the very Godhead, with
the glory of the Father, and with the very name once more of
"God."

     Paul's mind now returns to the Scriptures that tell us that
Jesus (before He came to earth as Jesus the Christ) was the very
person who LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, and the HEAVENS are
the very works of His hands. Jesus was the one who did the
creating of all things. It was the Father, the Majesty on High,
who desired it, and the one who became Jesus, did the actual
creating! (Psalm 102:25).
     The next quote is taken from Isaiah 34:4. One day the
physical world will perish, so also the heavens in some way, they
wax old as a garment, they are running down so to speak, they
will need TO BE CHANGED! Other verses in the Scriptures also tell
us that one day there will be a new heaven and earth, and maybe
much of a new universe. BUT, in contrast to all that Jesus is and
remains the SAME, and He will never grow old. He is eternal. His
glory as given in a fashion to us in the first chapter of the
book of Revelation, will NEVER dim, and His divine character of
perfection and holiness and righteousness, will always be the
SAME, forever.

     Paul ends his teaching on this matter by once more showing
from the Scriptures that the ANGELS of God, were NEVER to be in
such a high exalted position as sitting on the right hand of the
God the Father, and having their enemies made to be their foot-
stool (Psalm 110:1).
     From Psalm 103:20, the angels were created to be "serving
spirits" - and to mainly serve those who would be heirs of
salvation. 
     In simple terms, the angels were created to have the
important, yes, job of serving human flesh and blood people, whom
would be heirs of God the Father, in the plan of salvation. The
angels do many mighty things in the universe at large, this we
can see from reading the book of Daniel, as well as other parts
of Scripture, that show us what some of the jobs are that angels
do. But here Paul makes it clear that the MAIN function for them
is to serve at various (often unknown and unseen ways) times, US
humans who are heirs of God, through Jesus Christ. We shall see
in Hebrews chapter two, that we humans, were created to RISE
ABOVE the angels and be the actual and literal bothers and
sisters of Jesus. Paul in Romans 8, says we are co-inheritors
with Jesus of the SAME glory He inherited when He was resurrected
from death. Again, many parts of the NT prove that God the Father
is REPRODUCING Himself, that He will have MANY SONS born to Him.
Jesus will always be the greatest in authority, always be at the
Father's right hand, always the greatest next to the Majesty on
High. The Godhead will expand, that is what the Father desires,
but God the Father will always be supreme in authority, with
Jesus His Son next in authority. Who will be on Christ's right
and left hand? You will remember two of the twelve wanted those
positions, Jesus said it was NOT for Him to give or decide, but
the Father would give those high positions to whomsoever He
willed and decided.

     WHAT A WONDERFUL CHAPTER OF THE BIBLE!!   
So much great and magnificent truths proclaimed in such relatively few verses.
Meditate on them, be inspired, be lifted up, be humbled, and
constantly PRAISE the Father for His LOVE and His wanting to
share what He IS, with us humans who can be His very children
(verses 8- 14).

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November 2006



 New Testament Bible
Story

Chapter One Hundred-one:

Epistle to Hebrews #8

                     
CHAPTER TWO

     After all that was stated in the first chapter it was indeed
that we should not let anything slip away. The word of angels was
in times past, solid and steadfast, and those who did not heed
even angels received a just recompense for their folly. If that
being so, as it was, then how can we Christians escape a just
punishment, IF we neglect so great a salvation, which was
proclaimed by the Lord, and afterwards by those who heard Him
proclaim it. It was all backed up by God performing miracles,
wonders, signs, and by the gifts of the Holy Spirit, as God
willed (verses 1-4).

     Paul now once more affirms the GREAT and MIGHTY calling, and
what it all means for those who ARE the children of God, and the
very brothers and sisters of Christ. The "age to come" that Paul
and other apostles spoke about, as part of the Gospel message,
was not going to be ruled by angels, as they being in charge and
being the main beings over that new age, that the prophets of old
have spoken about in so much of their writings. 
     It is MAN, human kind, that is going to be the chief ones in
the new age of things. God the Father's plan in creating mankind,
was it have them as part of His family, above the angels in
authority and power, and it was human kind that was to be given
the whole universe to rule and help govern under the Father and
His first begotten and first born Son - Christ Jesus.
     Paul quotes from Psalm 8, that asks the question of "What is
man that you are mindful of him? You did make mankind lower than
the angels, but you in your plan have crowned him with glory and
honor, and have determined to set him over the works of your
hands."
     
     Paul was then inspired to tell us that when God had
determined to put mankind over His works, it did mean ALL His
works of creation, the entire universe. All things was eventually
to be in subjection to man. And there was NOTHING that was not to
be under the rulership of mankind. But as of yet, the present,
this was not the reality, all things are not yet under the
rulership of human kind (that was created as God tells us in
Genesis, after the God kind, "after OUR image" - God said).
     But, there is one fact, we do see Jesus, who was also for a
short while made into flesh and blood, a little lower than the
angels, for the purpose of suffering death (and so making
salvation possible for sinful mankind), NOW crowned with GLORY
and HONOR!!
     The Father had pre-determined to have MANY sons born to Him,
in the plan of salvation. Jesus, was the CAPTAIN, or LEADER, the
one to guide the way to the Father, was now made FULLY PERFECT,
in glory, and all that is perfection as God, and it was all done
through Him, Christ, suffering the life of being a human, knowing
all about what it is like to be flesh and blood.
     As Jesus had said in the real "Lord's prayer" of John 17,
that the Father, and Him, and all those who would belong to
Christ, were ONE. Jesus prayed to the Father that they would all
be ONE. Paul re-affirms here that it is so, and is the will of
the Father that Christ, and humans through salvation in Christ,
would be ALL ONE. Hence Jesus, is NOT ashamed to call His
followers BROTHERS! Here the Greek word does indeed mean
"brothers" - just as we think of brothers that come from the same
parents - very kin, very family. So, as the NT teaches over and
over again, God is a FAMILY, there is God the Father, and God the
Son, and all who are Christ's ARE HIS BROTHERS - they are part of
the VERY FAMILY CALLED GOD! 
     It is like the Father and Christ working a work whereby they
have between themselves PRODUCED "children" - of THEIR KIND, not
angel kind, or any other kind, but the very KIND that is God
KIND! 
     So, as children of parents partake of flesh and blood, so
Jesus partook of flesh and blood, in order to redeem and make a
way of salvation possible for the Father to have more children
born of Him. Jesus, through His death on the cross, was able to
destroy the works of Satan, and the power of death that the Devil
held over mankind. Jesus, was by living a perfect human life, not
sinning even once, deliver us from the fear and bondage of
eternal death because of sins we had done. 
     All that wonderful truth Paul had fully examined in his
epistle to the Romans.

     Jesus, did not step down to the angel level, like some
"superman" that was not really quite human, but He came as from
the seed of Abraham, very flesh and blood. He needed to be like
His BROTHERS, Paul states, so He could then be a MERCIFUL and
FAITHFUL High Priest in all things pertaining to God, and to be
able to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. In that
He went through the trials, tests, and faced all the same kinds
of temptations, we humans face, He is able to kindly help and
understand us who are tempted by sin and by the Devil.
     The work of Christ TODAY, sitting on the right hand of the
Majesty on High, as our High Priest, is often overlooked by far
too many ministers and people of the Christian religion and
faith. Paul will, in other chapters, amplify in this epistle to
the Hebrews, the OFFICE and function of Jesus as High Priest.
Such a function by Christ in heaven, is absolutely essential for
OUR salvation. Paul made it very clear in writing to the Romans,
that we are SAVED not only by the DEATH of Christ, but also by
His LIFE! Both the death and life, resurrected life, of Jesus are
paramount and vital to our salvation, and entering into the
eternal family of God (verses 5-18).

     The great truth of the DESTINY of Christians is given in a
full study of the subject on this Website, called "A Christian's
Destiny."

CHAPTER THREE

     Introducing Jesus as our High Priest, Paul says, we indeed
need to consider Him. It is He that is THE High Priest and THE
Apostle, not some human man. He was faithful to God the Father
who appointed Him to the work needed for our salvation, just as
Moses was faithful to his house, family of Israelites, and his
calling.
     Jesus, was counted with more glory than Moses, as the
builder of the house has more glory than the house itself. Paul
is showing that Jesus surpasses the man Moses. Showing to the
Hebrews that Moses, while a fine man, was inferior to the one who
became Jesus the Christ. 
     Jesus has a house-hold, being us Christians, if we hold fast
to the end, rejoicing in the hope of our salvation. We are to
LISTEN to Him, to listen and obey God. We are not to be like the
Israelites of old, who did not listen, and who most of the time,
did NOT obey and follow the way of God. After a while the Lord
said that those rebellious Israelites would not enter into the
promised land of rest.

     We are to TAKE HEED, lest their be in us an evil heart of
unbelief, which leads to departing from the living God. Is it
possible then for Christians to "depart from God"? Are Christians
"once saved always saved"? From this verse and many other verses
in the NT, it IS possible to fall from grace and depart from God.
The words of the NT teach no such doctrine as once saved always
saved. Jesus plainly said in the Gospels, "He that endures to the
end, shall be saved."

     We are to exhort each other, encourage each other, so there
will NOT be a heart in us that becomes hardened by the
deceitfulness of sin. We are made partakers of Christ, IF we HOLD
the beginning of our Christian confidence STEADFAST TO THE END!!
(verses 1-14).

     The example of the Israelites coming out of Egypt is given
to us. The generation of those 20 and older were all disobedient,
except a few. All had a wrong heart, all would die in the
wilderness over a forty year period, and they would not enter
into God's rest. They could not enter because of their unbelief,
which in plain language means, unfaithfulness, a departing from
the Lord's heart, a mind-set that would not believe in God, which
translated into an attitude of mind that would NOT OBEY God
(verses 15-19).

CHAPTER FOUR

     Paul now ties into TYPOLOGY, with God's salvation rest, the
rest of the promised land to Israelites of old, and the SEVENTH
DAY rest of the fourth commandment of the great Ten Commandments.
     We are to take heed and fear lest the promise of eternal
rest for us, many of us should fall short of entering into it.
The goods news was preached to us as it was to the Israelites of
old. They did not profit from it because of their disobedient
heart. We today which have the good news are entering into God's
rest. The Greek is in the present continuous tense. We are God's
children now, hence we are now on the road to eternal rest, as
Paul has said, IF we remain steadfast to the end. The works of
God were finished as we see in the first chapter of Genesis,
which included sanctifying the SEVENTH day of the week. Yet, in
God's plan, not all was fully competed, the rest of eternal life,
was to be entered into by His children, who would obey His will
and who would remain faithful to the end. God did rest on that
seventh day of creation week, but that rest was a type of the
rest of the promised land to the Israelites under Moses, and it
was a type of the eternal rest of salvation to those who are
God's children in the spiritual salvation plan.
     God is still calling people to hear His voice, to listen to
Him, to OBEY Him, to enter His rest. The Old and New Testaments
prove that the rest of the promised land of Palestine, the
seventh day rest, and the eternal rest of salvation are ALL tied
together in perfect typology. The child of God will inherit not
only the promised land of Palestine in the future, but the whole
earth, and indeed the whole universe, together with the eternal
rest of perfection and glory, as being a part of the very family
of God.
     Joshua, in bringing the Israelites into the Holy Land of
Palestine, did not fully fill up the complete rest of God.
Neither did David exhaust the fullness of this rest in its
completeness when he talked about "Today, if you will hear His
voice, harden not your heart." 

     There is MORE to this REST than in Joshua's day or David's
day, more than just the promised land or the seventh day of the
week. There is an eternal aspect of God's rest.

     Yet, with all that said, Paul goes on to state that "There
REMAINETH (present continuous tense in the Greek) a keeping of a
sabbath (margin KJV) to the people of God. Paul uses here a once
in all the NT word - Sabbatismos - which literally means, a
keeping of the Sabbath. And he who has entered God's rest, now in
the spiritual sense, will cease from his own works, AS God did
from His. Sure there is the spiritual side to all this "works"
talk - believing God, obeying, following His will. But there is
the literal work of God resting on that literal seventh day of
creation week. So also the child of God will do - stop his own
work on the seventh day, keep the Sabbath of the fourth
commandment.  
     The typology all fits like hand and glove. Seventh day from
creation, God rested, the promised land of Palestine, promised to
the Israelites who would believe (trust) and obey, a rest of
peace for them, and the rest of eternal glory in the family of
God. Palestine still exists today, and will during the 1,000 year
reign of Christ on earth. The Sabbath is still here, the seventh
day of the week still exists, and will exist during the 1,000
year Kingdom of God on earth (Isaiah 66).

     So TODAY, we are to NOT follow the unbelieving hearts of the
old Israelites. We are to OBEY God; do His will; His Ten
Commandments still are for today, still need to be obeyed by
God's children, hence the fourth commandment of keeping holy the
seventh day, the Sabbath day, is STILL for the people of God to
obey. As God's children, we will stop our own carnal works of
sin, when we become a child of the Majesty on High, and we shall,
as He did, stop OUR works on the Sabbath day, or seventh day of
the week. We shall labour therefore to enter into the rest, of
all that the typology claims is God's rest, LEST any person FALL
after the same example (of the Israelites) of DIS-obedience
(margin KJV).
     
     Dr.Samuele Bacchiocchi has in his books on the Sabbath,
given full and indepth examination to Hebrews chapter four. The
reader is pointed to his books as well as many other fine books
on the Sabbath keeping topic (verses 1-11).

     We next have one of those often quoted and so somewhat
famous verses of the Bible, especially when it was used by the
old powerful speaking Evangelists of the 18th and 19th centuries.

     "For the word of God is QUICK, and POWERFUL, and SHARPER
     than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing
     asunder of the soul and spirit, and of the joints and
     marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of
     the heart" (verse 12).

     The next verses is to be expected after a verse like the
above. There is no creature that is not open in all ways before
His sight, so for us also, we are pretty naked to Him, if He
desires to strip us down and wants to see us for what we really
are. This is the God and our Father that we deal with, so we need
to walk accordingly.
     Paul, then returns to the thought that in all of the truth
of the previous two verses, we still have a High Priest in
heaven, Jesus, the Son of God, so we can be encouraged to HOLD
FAST our profession of Christianity. For this High Priest is not
an aloof person, never knowing what it is like to be human, but
was flesh and blood for a while, and knows very well what human
temptations are all about. He was tempted Himself (remember in
the Gospels those famous temptations by the Devil after Jesus had
fasted for forty days), but never gave in to those temptations,
He remained sinless all His days as a human being.

     We can, with such a High Priest on our side, come BOLDLY to
the throne of grace, and obtain mercy, and find grace to help us
in the time of need.

     What wonderful re-assuring words to end a passage that is a
grave warning for us to not neglect the grace and salvation of
God. Comforting words indeed, that serve to encourage us to keep
walking in the ways of the Majesty on High, to remain faithful
and so inherit the eternal rest of God.

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          TO BE CONTINUED

Written November 2006