ONAN...spilling his seed....GENESIS 38

MY  ANSWER  TO  QUESTION  OF  THE  SIN  OF  ONAN  IN  GENESIS  38

 Answer:

So  we  are  back  to  Genesis  38  and  this  Onan  and  spilling  his  seed  stuff.

You  must  be  reading  everything  Roman  Catholic  whoevers.....  trying  to  make  this  spilling  of  seed  a  HUGE  SIN!

I'm  not  saying  this  section  is  used  "officially"  by  the  RC  church,  but  various  Catholic theology  individuals  try  to  use  it.  Everyone  has  to  give  some  kind  of  "Scripture"  to  back  up  their  beliefs  or  ideas  they  want  to  promulgate.

FIRST,  people  who  do  this,  making  it  sin  to  masturbate,  are  two  things,  either  they  have  no  sex  hormones [or  very  very  low]  OR  they  deliberately  want  men  to  agonize  for  most  of  their  lives,  and  get  some  kick  out  of  the  thought  of  that.

SECOND.  What  about  women  masturbating?  More  than  you  think  do  it;  they  spill  no  seed,  and  I've  mentioned  some  can  get  an  orgasm  riding a  bike,  or  horse,  or  breast  feeding. If  their  husband  is  away  a  lot [like  being  a pilot  for  an  air  company]  and  they  think  of  him  as  they  masturbate,  is  that  sin  to  these  Onan  text  people?  From  a  medical  perspective  they  say  masturbating  to  orgasm  produces  many  good  chemicals  that  keep  you  young. One  book  says  the  more  orgasms  you  have  the  younger  you  will  keep  yourself.

THIRD.  What  about  "wet  dreams"  men  can  have,  is  spilling  seed  wrong  here;  if  so  God  is  wrong  for  He  invented  it.

Question:

I haven't asked you this question yet, but I'd like to get it out of the way.  I'm typing something that may become a book someday.  It's on the topic of sexuality, and my studies have led to the following problem.

I'm curious as to the reason why Onan's account was worded the way it is.  I've noticed that sexual experiences in the Bible are worded differently depending upon their morality.  

Answer

***They do!!!

Question: 

If sex is done correctly, such language as "gone/went into her" and "knew her" are used.  However, if immoral, language such as "uncovered her nakedness" is used.  Generally speaking, then, the moral kinds of sex are referred to in an indirect manner, while the language becomes more explicit when sex becomes immoral.

Answer:

***It  does!!!  Nope,  wrong  theology,  that  is  used  on  other  things  also,  making  wrong  inferences,  will  explain  shortly.

Question:

Genesis 38:9 says that Onan went into his brother's wife, which uses the indirect language connoting licit, moral sex.  However, the language suddenly becomes more explicit following this.  

Answer:

***Just  a  minute,  you  said  "gone/went  into  her"  was  a  kinda  "good"  language.  So  according  to  that  thinking  it  was  "good" - done  correctly.

Question:

It says that Onan destroyed [his seed] to the ground.  Would this not suggest that this contraceptive act is sin, given the explicitness of the language?

A

***Nope.... how  are  you  going  to  tell  people  he  did  not  put  his  seed  into  her?  Either  by  saying,  "He  withdrew  and  his  seed  was  not  put  into  her."  Or  "His  seed  he  spilt  on  the  ground."   You  will  have  to  word  it  somehow  to  tell  your  readers  he  did  not  put  his  seed  into  her.  You  are  just  trying  to  get  it  across  to  people's  minds  Onan  did  not  allow  his seed  to  enter  her. Just  that  simple,  nothing  being  meant  by  it  BUT  trying  to  convey  in  words,  to  readers,  that  Onan  had  no  intention  to  let  his  seed  go  into her.  Onan  was  being  very  deceptive.  Kinda  like,  "Wow  this  is  some  great  chick  here,  wow  I'd  just  love  to  have  my  penis  inside  her  and  enjoy  a  good  ...."  Then  also  saying,  "But  I  do  not  want  to  raise  up  children  for  my  brother."  A  very  deceptive  mind-set.  Judah  had  already  said,  "Go  in  unto  thy  brother's  wife,  and  marry  her, and  raise  up  seed  to  thy  brother" [v.8]. The  same  "go  in  unto  her"  -  according  to  you  "sex  is  done  correctly"  words.  And  so  verse  9  also.  Onan  sure  wanted  to  have  good  sex  with  her  but  sure  was  not  wanting  to  marry  her  and  raise  up  seed  to  his  brother.

Question:

If Onan's sin was depriving his dead brother of an heir, then wouldn't his sin have consisted of a wrong attitude of mind and not a particular sinful act?  It isn't as though the Hebrew language lacked terms to describe evil attitudes of mind, when those were the kinds of sins in question.  

***Indeed  it  was  a  sin  of  wrong  attitude  of  mind,  and  a  sin  of  deception.  Making  out  to  all,  Judah  and  the woman,  he  wanted to  marry  her  and  raise  up  children  to  his  brother,  but  in  reality  he  just  wanted  a  good  sex  experience  and  come  to  an  orgasm  while  thinking  what  a  great  body  to  be  in  while  coming  to  an  orgasm.  Pure  selfishness,  lust,  desire  to  be  in  her,  but  not  to  marry  and  raise  up  children.  

Question:

For example, the Bible didn't say that God killed Onan for his hardness of heart or other term describing a sin of wrong attitude.  

Answer:

***It  doesn't????  Wow,  I   think  you  have  to  be  reading  into  something  that  just  ain't  there.  Knowing  the  law  of  raising  up  children  to  your  brother [done  in  those  days  and  under  the  Old  Covenant  -  a  law  shown  in  the  book  of  Ruth]  it  is  VERY  CLEAR  "the  thing  which  he  did  displeased  the  Lord...."  How  can  not  these  certain  Catholics  see  the  plain  understanding  here???  Judah  thought  he  was  going  to  marry  her,  he  went  in  unto  her  as  Judah  wanted.  Onan  was  deceiving  Judah.  He  was  deceiving  the  woman  also.  But  he  could  not  deceive  the  Lord.  Onan  was  killed  by  God  for  deceiving  everyone  but  God.  He  had  no  intention  to  marry  her  and  raise  up  children..... he  just  wanted  to  f... her  to  put  it  bluntly.  Knowing  the  law  of  "raising  up  children  to  your  brother"  and  the  context  of  these  verses,  it  is  very  clear  what  was  going  on  here.  Only  some  "no  masturbating  spilling  seed  on  the  ground"  or  "No  contraception  of  any  kind,  including  withdrawing  on  orgasm"]  Roman  Catholics  make  up  some  other  teaching  from  this.  

Question:

No, it used explicit language to describe Onan's act of using contraception, and remember that explicit language describes evil acts of sex in the Bible.  

***No  you  have  made  up  a  "rule"  of  Bible  reading  that  is  not  wise.

Question:

Also, it didn't say that it was Onan's attitude that was sinful, but said that what he DID was evil, which points to a specific ACT, not attitude.

Answer:

***Nope  your  made  up  rule,  can  lead  you  to  a  false  doctrine  and  teaching.  How  do  you  separate  the  mind  from  the  body  in  this  specific  case.  You  have  to  tell  your  readers,  put   into  language,  the  wrong  attitude  of  mind  from  Onan,  as  he  has  sex  with  this  lady. The  mind  and  physical  act  go hand  in  hand  here;  as  you  tell  the  physical  act  OF  NOT  RAISING  UP  SEED  to  his  brother,  how are  you  going  to  put it,  so  readers  can  understand  Onan's  mind-set.  I  guess  you  could  say,  "But  Onan  withdrew  as  he  climaxed  to  orgasm."  That  would  be  a  way  modern  writers  might  put  it.  Nothing  about  seed  being  spilt  or  entering  her,  BUT  we  all  know  what  such  language  would  mean..... seed  or  sperm  did  not  enter  her!!!

The  doing  of  this,  however  you  want  to  put  it  in  language  that  people  know  no  sperm  entered  her,  is  language  to  convey  that  truth  and  fact  of  the  action,  to  the  mind  of  others,  that  no  sperm  entered  her;  he  was  not  going  to  marry  her,  raise up  children  to  his  brother  at  all,  but  just  wanted  to  have  a  good  sex  session  with  her,  to  again  put  it  bluntly,  come  to  orgasm  while  f....ing  her.

The  thing  done,  in  this  case  cannot  be  separated  from  the  attitude  of  mind.  The  way  the  writer  [Moses]  put  it  was  the  way  he  chose  to  put  it  in  the  plain  language  of  his  day,  that  people  would  know  clearly  no  seed  or  sperm  was  entering  her,  and  hence  no  marriage,  and  raising  up  children  to  his  brother,  as  Judah  and  the  woman  thought  was  being  done.  Mighty  GREAT  deception  on  Onan's part  for  a  good  selfish  sex  time.  Just  imagine  the  deception  Onan  gave  out  to  others.  And  it  may  have  been  days  between  what  Judah  said  to  him  in  verse  8,  and  the  action  of  verse  9. We  are  not  told  the  time  from  verse  8,  to  verse  9.  So  many  others  could  have  been  deceived  also. Thinking  this was  a  marriage  and  consummating  it,  and  a  brother  going  to  raise  up  children  to  his  dead  brother. Onan  was  deceiving  BIG  TIME..... all  but  God  were  deceived.

The  action  and  intent  of  the  heart  and  mind  cannot  be  separated  in this  case.  You  have  to  use  language  to  convey  this  if  your  writing  about  it;  Moses  chosen  the  language  he  did,  all  in  that  day,  knew  exactly  what  Moses  was  saying  here.  Today  we  could  write  it  differently  but  still  get  the  clear  message  across  to  our  readers,  the  intent  of  Onan  was  deceptive  and  his  action  went  with  his  deceptive  mind.

Now  to  your  making  up  rules  of  Bible  reading. 

VERY  VERY  destructive  to  do,  leading  sometimes  into  false  doctrine.

Example;  God  usually  begins  days  at  SUNSET!  EVENING!  But  without  warning,  a  writer  is  inspired  to  not  use  sunset  or  EVENING,  and  as  stated  we  are  given  no  warning,  it  is  just  there  before us.....bingo....just  there!!  Example,  John  20:19.  Jesus  did  things  on  the  first  day  of  His  appearing  to  the   disciples.  Part  of  this  appearing  included  was  in  the  room  with  the  doors  shut.  John  tells  us  it  was  the  same  day,  at  EVENING,  being  the  FIRST  day  of  the  week.  Not  the  second  day,  but  the  FIRST  day...... John  used  ROMAN  time,  the  first  day  lasting  till  midnight.  We  have  no  warning,  we  are  not  told  he  was  using  Roman  time;  it  just  happens,  the  norm  is  broken.... exceptions  to  the  norm  is  just  given,  with  no  warning  or  explanation.

From  Genesis  and  MANY  other  places,  God  starts  a  new  day  at  EVENING.  If  reading  Genesis  we  say  "evening"  ALWAYS  starts  the  new day..... it  is  the  rule,  for  we  see  this  in  so  may  verses...... then  bingo.....  we  run  into  a  very  hard  way  to  make  our  rule  stick  in  John 20:19.  

So  whatever  "rule"  you  want   to  make  from  the  majority  of  Scriptures,  you  try  and  put  that  rule  into  iron  chains,  set  in  stone,  and  sure  enough  God  will  blow  you  away  by  not  following  your  rule,  that  you've  made  for  yourself.  Ah  yes,  God  has  EXCEPTIONS   to  the  norm,  to  the  rule.

It  is  one  of  those  things  God  has  put  into  the  Bible,  often  without  telling  you..... just  there,  and  he  blows  away  the  rule  or  the  norm.  Just  when  you  think  you  have  got  the  Bible  all  into  little  neat  compartments,  all  set  out  into  rules  and  norms,  God  blows  it  away  with  exceptions  to  the  norm.

Be  careful  with  the  rules  of  Bible  reading  YOU  give  to  Bible  reading,  as  there  surely  will  be  a  verse  that  blows  away  the  rule!!

THE LAST GREAT FEAST!!

TODAY...... OCTOBER  5TH  2015,  IS  IN  GOD'S  CALENDAR,  THE  LAST  GREAT  FEAST  OF  THE  7  FEASTS  OF  THE  LORD.,  FOR  THE  YEAR.

WE  HAVE  TODAY  DOZENS  UPON  DOZENS  OF  SECTS  OF  CHRISTIANITY.  AND  THEY  OBVIOUSLY  DO  NOT  AGREE  WITH  EACH  OTHER,  IF  THEY  DID,  WE  WOULD  NOT  HAVE  DOZENS  UPON  DOZENS  OF  SECTS  OF  CHRISTIANITY.

THEN  THERE  ARE  THE  OTHER  "RELIGIONS"  OF  THE  WORLD!

THEN  WE  CAN  ADD  TO  ALL  THIS  MIXTURE  THE  DOZENS  AND  DOZENS  OF  "SECULAR"  ..... WELL  CALL  THEM  WHAT  YOU  LIKE,  MAYBE  "MY  WAY  OF  LIVING"  -  A  SONG  THAT  BECAME  VERY  POPULAR  SOME  DECADES  BACK  WAS  CALLED  "MY WAY."

THE  WORLD  IS  FULL  TO  THE  BRIM,  OVERFLOWING  REALLY,  WITH  THIS  WAY  AND  THAT  WAY  TO  LIVING  THIS  PHYSICAL  LIFE,  IN  SOME  KIND  OF  "WAY."

WELL  THE  GOD  IN  HEAVEN  -  YES  THERE  IS  A   GOD,  A  SUPREME  BEING,  WHO  MADE  THE  UNIVERSE  [FULFILLED  BIBLE  PROPHECY  IS  ONE  GREAT  WAY  TO  PROVE  HE  EXISTS];  THIS  GOD  ALSO  HAS  "A  WAY"  -  AS  HE  IS  GOD,  HOLY,  RIGHTEOUS,  AND  PERFECT,  HIS  WAY  IS  THE  BEST  WAY.

BUT  TO  KNOW  HIS  WAY,  YOU  HAVE  TO  BELIEVE  HE  LEFT  US  AN  INSTRUCTION  BOOK  TO  TELL  US  HIS  WAY.

HE  DID  GIVE  US  AN  INSTRUCTION  BOOK;  IT'S  CALLED  THE  HOLY  BIBLE.

BUT  HERE'S  THE  CATCH:  THAT  INSTRUCTION  BOOK  CANNOT  BE  FULLY   UNDERSTOOD  UNLESS  YOU  READ  IT  FROM  COVER  TO  COVER,  EVEN  THEN, YOU  STILL  MAY  NOT  UNDERSTAND  IT  ALL;  ALL  THE  TRUTHS  IT  CONTAINS,  FOR  IT  IS  WRITTEN  LIKE  A  JIG-SAW-PUZZLE  -  YOU  HAVE  TO  HUNT  FOR  ALL  THE  RIGHT  PIECES  THAT  GO  TOGETHER,  THAT  FIT  TOGETHER  TO  MAKE  THE  WHOLE  PICTURE.  ANOTHER  WAY  TO  SAY  IT  IS  THAT  THERE  ARE  MANY  MANY  TOPICS  IN  THE  BIBLE,  AND  TO  FIND  THE  TRUTH  ON  ANY  TOPIC,  YOU  MUST  FIND  ALL  THE  INSTRUCTIONS  ON  THAT TOPIC,  AND  PUT  IT  ALL  TOGETHER  TO  GET  THE  FULL  AND  COMPLETE  PICTURE  OF  TRUTH.

YET  THERE  IS  ANOTHER  CATCH:  THE  BIBLE  IS  WRITTEN  IN  A  WAY  THAT  TO  GET  ALL  THE  TRUTHS  IT  CONTAINS  YOU  NEED  SOMETHING  FROM  GOD  -  YOU  NEED  THE  HELP  OF  GOD'S  SPIRIT;  OFTEN  CALLED  "HOLY  SPIRIT"  IN  THE  BIBLE.

THERE  ARE  THREE VERY  IMPORTANT  CHAPTERS  IN  THE  BIBLE;  THREE  CHAPTERS  THAT  ARE  PRETTY  CLEAR  TO  READ;  NO  UNIVERSITY  DEGREE  NEEDED;  YOU  JUST  READ  THE  CHAPTERS  AND  BELIEVE  WHAT  IS  WRITTEN  THERE.

THOSE  CHAPTERS  ARE  ROMANS  9,  10,  AND  11.

IN  A  NUT  SHELL,  THOSE  CHAPTER  SAY,  ALL  PEOPLE  ARE  SPIRITUALLY  BLIND  -  UNLESS,  UNTIL,  GOD  GRANTS  YOU  A  MIND  TO  SPIRITUALLY  SEE  AND  UNDERSTAND  WHAT  HE  TELLS  YOU  IN  THE  BIBLE.,  CONCERNING  THE WAY  TO  ETERNAL  LIFE,  THE  WAY  INTO  GOD'S  PRESENCE  FOR  ALL  ETERNITY.  IF  GOD  DOES  NOT  WORK  THIS  MIRACLE  FOR  YOU  TO  SEE  THE  THINGS  HE  WANTS  YOU  TO  SEE  IN  THE  BIBLE,  YOU  ARE  STILL  SPIRITUALLY  BLINDED!!

NOW  ONCE  THAT  SPIRITUAL  BLINDNESS  IS  REMOVED  YOU  ARE  NO  LONGER  SPIRITUALLY  BLIND..... PRETTY  SIMPLE,  RIGHT?  YES  INDEED!

AS  THOSE  CHAPTERS  IN  ROMANS  SAY,  ALL  ARE  SPIRITUALLY  BLIND,  AND  SOME,  IN  FACT  FOR  NOW  THE  MAJORITY  IN  THE  WORLD,  ARE  SPIRITUALLY  BLINDED.  AND  THEY  ARE  SPIRITUALLY  BLINDED  TO  GOD'S  TRUTHS  BY  ALL  THE  DIFFERENT  IDEOLOGIES,  RELIGIONS,  MEN'S  PHILOSOPHY  OF  ONE  KIND  OR  ANOTHER,  OR  JUST  THERE  OWN  IDEAS  ON  LIFE  AND  HOW  THEY  WANT  TO  DO  IT  "MY  WAY."

SO  AS  ROMANS  9,  10,  11,  TELL  US,  IT  IS  ONLY  A  RELATIVELY  FEW  TODAY  WHO  HAVE  THE  BLINDNESS  REMOVED;  AND  THEY  CAN  THEN  BE  UNDER  GOD'S  GRACE,  PART  OF  HIS  FAMILY,  BY  UNDERSTANDING  AND  FULFILLING  GOD'S  TERMS  ON  HOW  TO  BE  PART  OF  HIS  FAMILY.

SO  IT  IS  A  TWO  FOLD  AGREEMENT...... GOD  REMOVES  THE  BLINDNESS,  THE  PERSON  ACCEPTS  THE  TERMS  ON  BECOMING  A  MEMBER  OF  GOD'S  FAMILY.

HENCE  THERE  IS  A  PART  THE  CALLED  ONE  HAS  TO  BE  WILLING  TO  DO;  THEY  HAVE  TO  CHOOSE  TO  DO  IT;  THEY  ARE  A  FREE  AGENT  AND  CAN  IF  THEY  SO  DESIRE  CHOOSE  NOT  TO  DO  IT.

NOW  THERE  IS  ONLY  ONE  WAY  A  PERSON  CAN  BECOME  A  CHILD  OF  GOD,  A  MEMBER  IN  HIS  FAMILY.  AS  YOU  READ  THE  BIBLE  YOU  CAN  SEE  WHAT  THAT  WAY  IS.

BUT  TODAY  WE  HAVE  MILLIONS,  WELL  BILLIONS,  WHO  DO NOT  EVEN  READ  THAT  HOLY  BIBLE.  THEN  YOU  HAVE  ONES  WHO  DIED  WHEN  BABIES  OR  CHILDREN.  YOU  HAVE  MILLIONS  WHO  HAVE  LIVED  AND  DIED  WHO  NEVER  HAD  SOMEONE  BRING  THE  HOLY  BIBLE  TO  THEM.  EVEN  AMONG  THOSE  WHO HAVE  THE  BIBLE,  YOU  HAVE  DOZENS  UPON  DOZENS  OF  DIFFERENT  IDEAS  AS  TO  WHAT  IT  ALL  MEANS.  THEY  CERTAINLY  CAN  NOT  BE  ALL  CORRECT,  FOR SOME  ARE  DIRECTLY  CONTRARY  TO  EACH  OTHER.

SO  WITH  ALL  THIS,  AGAIN  MEDITATING  ON  ROMANS  9,  10,  11,  I  HAVE  TO  SAY,  THE  ROMAN  CATHOLIC  CHURCH  COULD  TO  A  POINT  SEE  THE  OVERALL PICTURE  OF  THOSE  CHAPTER;  THEY  CAME  UP  WITH  A  KIND  OF  SOLUTION,,,,,
CALLED  PURGATORY!

A  PLACE  WHERE  SOME  COULD  BE  HELD,  IN  A  KIND  OF  "NO  MAN'S  LAND"  -
AND  FROM  THERE  THE  POSSIBILITY  TO  MOVE  TO  HEAVEN.... WE  DON'T  WANT TO  THINK  ABOUT  THE  OTHER  PLACE  THEY  COULD  END  UP  IN.

THE  PROTESTANTS  HAVE  NO  SUCH  "INTERMEDIATE"  PLACE,  SO  THEY  HAVE  MORE  TROUBLE  TO  EXPLAIN  WHAT  HAPPENS  TO  .....  THOSE  WHO  DIDN'T  HAVE  THE  BIBLE,  OR  JESUS  IN  THEIR  LIFE.

THE  ANSWER  IS  NOT  THE  ROMAN  CATHOLIC  ANSWER,  OR  THE  PROTESTANT  ANSWER.

THE  TRUTH  OF  GOD'S  ANSWER  IS  IN  REVELATION  20,  AND  IN  THIS  LAST  GREAT  FEAST.

I  HAVE  A  FULL  IN-DEPTH  STUDY  ON  IT  FOR  YOU  ON  MY  WEBSITE;  IT  IS  CALLED  "THE  GREAT  WHITE  THRONE  JUDGMENT."

GOD  HAS  A  PLAN  FOR  EVERYONE,  IN  ITS  TIME.

NO  ONE  WILL  BE  LEFT  OUT  IN  THE  COLD  AS  WE  SAY.

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RAW MILK....masterful....Dr. Mercola

Livestock Nutritionist Defends Raw Milk Safety

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By Dr. Mercola

Is it safe to drink raw (unpasteurized) milk? The short answer is a resounding yes — provided it comes from healthy, organically raised, grass-fed, or pastured cows, that is.

Dr. William Winter, who is eminently qualified to speak on this topic, expounds on the health benefits — and safety — of raw milk in this interview. He’s not only a veterinarian; he’s also a livestock nutritionist, holistic herd health consultant, and a chapter leader for the Weston A. Price Foundation (WAPF).

He’s also written a book for veterinarians called The Holistic Veterinary Handbook, published in 1986 (currently out of print).

Originally trained as a horse veterinarian, Dr. Winter started his career working in a large animal practice in Missouri. There he honed his skills in emergency surgery before eventually switching gears to focus on holistic veterinary medicine.

“Being a horse vet, you’re not working on horses all the time,” he says. “There were plenty of broken down cattle, pigs, sheep, and goats that I worked on. So, I got a full range of experience.

One day, a book appeared to me, [written by] Juliette de Baϊracli Levy, the herbal grandmother...

She taught me through this book about natural rearing, which is a natural diet. It was no vaccines, no wormers, no antibiotics, and no drugs whatsoever. That was my epiphany...

A lot of this stuff we do now, they used to know how to do before the ‘40s. As soon as antibiotics came in, there was this mass amnesia... all the great wisdom was kind of forgotten because it was too hard...

But I read the book, and I became unemployable. No vet in their right mind would hire me because all day I talk people out of vaccines, wormers, and antibiotics, all the things that you actually make money on. So I found myself having to start my own vet hospital.”

He ended up selling his practice in 1999. At that time, it was the biggest holistic veterinary hospital in the United States.

He’s still involved with the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association (AHVMA) though, which he co-founded. The AHVMA primarily focuses on pets, so Dr. Winter founded another version of it for livestock, which is still in its infancy.

Raw Milk Has Been Wrongfully Demonized

According to Dr. Winter, raw milk is “the most beautiful substance in the food world.” The same cannot be said for pasteurized milk.

Unfortunately, raw milk has been wrongfully demonized as hazardous — primarily by the conventional dairy industry and those who do not understand the health benefits of ‘live’ foods.

Laws relating to raw milk sales vary by state. According to RealMilk.com,¹states where raw milk is still illegal by sale, cowshare or herdshare, or as pet milk include Hawaii, Nevada, Montana, Iowa, Louisiana, West Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware, and Rhode Island.

“I recommend everyone listening to the show to join the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund² (FTCLDF) because these are pro-bono lawyers who are helping farmers to stay out of jail and helping their lives change,” Dr. Winter says.

It’s important to understand that in order for raw milk to be healthy and safe it must come from healthy organically raised cows that graze on pasture.

Drinking unpasteurized milk from cows raised in a confined animal feeding operation (CAFO) might well be lethal, and the reason for this is due to the differences in the way the cows are raised and fed. A cow’s natural diet is primarily grass. When a cow eats a lot of grain, three adverse events happen:

1. The cow becomes acidotic (acidic)
2. It becomes over-protonated, which harms the cow’s kidneys. As a result, the cow can only provide milk for 1.7 lactations, which is 44 months, after which they get slaughtered
3. Grain can contain mold mycotoxins that can make the animal sick

Grass-fed organic milk tends to be yellowish, not pure white. The coloration comes from the natural antioxidant carotenoids found in the grass, which is a pre-cursor to vitamin A.

Raw grass-fed milk is also high in omega-3 fats while being low in inflammatory omega-6.It also contains conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), which has a number of health-promoting benefits.

One Reason Why Food Poisoning from Raw Milk Is So Rare

Interestingly, high quality raw organic milk actually has its own built in “immune system.” The elevated white blood cell count in raw milk helps reduce your risk of contracting food poisoning. Pasteurized milk does not have this protective quality.

“Mark McAfee of the Organic Pastures in California... [has been] challenged with little test tubes full of raw milk with all the deadly pathogens, Escherichia coli (E. coli)15787, listeria, campylobacter, or salmonella.

They come back in 30 minutes, and they cannot find any of those nasty bugs, because the raw milk has taken that out of there...

When they put those deadly pathogens into cooked milk and pasteurized milk, it’s a zoo in there. It is a perfect media for bacteria or pathogens to reproduce and go to town on you.

That’s just one little aspect of why intrinsically raw milk is safer than cooked milk. If you look at the numbers, you’ll find that almost all the food poisonings from dairy products are from cooked milk. There’s post-pasteurization contamination.

That isn’t to say that we’re careless about raw milk. We’re excruciatingly careful. I have my own little microscopic certification program. I have a drop site where 1,800 families here in Minneapolis pick up their farm fresh food, including the raw dairy products.

They buy it directly from the farmer. I have been on every farm and almost every small herd. I’ve been working with them to ensure safety.”

Raw milk also contains large quantities of beneficial bacteria, which help “crowd out” pathogens. As noted by Dr. Winter, the only way a pathogen can get a foothold is if there aren’t enough beneficial bacteria.

“If you have a full lining of probiotics in your gut and you happen to swallow some E. coli, salmonella, or staph organisms, there’s no room at the inn. So you’re much, much less likely to have a problem,” he says. 

That said, as a consumer, it’s also important to understand how to safely handle and store raw milk once it’s in your possession. A helpful book suggested by Dr. Winter is The Untold Story of Milk: Green Pastures, Contented Cows, and Raw Dairy Products by Ron Schmid.

Should Humans Drink Cow’s Milk?

Some people insist that while raw milk is fine for calves, it’s simply not meant to be consumed by humans. Dr. Winter’s reply to such a statement?

“How do you milk a soybean? I’ve always been curious about that... [Raw cow’s milk] is the only golden food. It’s the only food that you can live on for the rest of your life. But not everybody should have dairy.”

If you’re significantly insulin-resistant and overweight you may want to limit your consumption of raw milk as it contains significant amounts of lactose and galactose — simple sugars that may exacerbate insulin resistance and make it more difficult to lose weight. That said, you may be even worse off drinking reduced-fat or skim milk. According to Dr. Winter, full-fat raw milk actually tends to modulate the impact of the milk sugar, and people who stick to a low-fat diet tend to be more overweight.

“It’s mapped to be a complete food,” he says. “I call reduced-fat milk or skim milk junk food.”    

Butter is another option for those who are insulin-resistant. Butter and cheese are also how you can benefit from raw dairy during the winter, when the cows cannot forage on fresh grasses. Dr. Winter credits his own robust immune system during cold and flu season to eating plenty of summer grass-fed butter during winter months.

“That’s how I get through the winter without a cold. One of the biggest health things I do is I try to eat an equivalent of about a stick of butter a day. I know it’s helping me from losing my marbles. The brain is mostly fat. You need fat insulation for your nerve protein.”

The History of Pasteurization and Homogenization

Growing up in the early ‘60s, my parents had milk delivered to our house, and I have vivid memories of milk fat rising to the top of the milk bottle. The reason the milk you buy today doesn’t do that is because it’s been homogenized. This process has no real biological benefit; it’s done primarily for aesthetic reasons, to make the milk in each package look the same.  Dr. Oster believes the homogenization process changes an enzyme in milk, xanthine oxidase, to catalyze atherosclerosis.

Now, the very idea that something needed to be done to kill pathogens in cow’s milk came about after farmers started feeding ethanol swell to their cows. This dietary ‘cheat’ made the cows sick and their milk less safe. Ethanol swell is the spent grain left over after making whiskey. They figured it looked like grain, and the cows liked it, so they began using it as feed.

The problem is, this spent grain was neither whole nor natural, and didn’t provide the nourishment the cows needed. As a result, the cattle began developing Johne’s disease, and bovine tuberculosis. They also began contracting human tuberculosis from sick immigrants hired to do the milking, which was all done by hand.

“Along comes Louis Pasteur from France. [In the 1850s] he became famous for pasteurizing wine in France because they were having some contamination and bacterial problems with the wine. So they said, ‘Oh, will this work on milk?’ [He said] ‘Well, yes it does. It kills some of the pathogens.’ So they started cooking this bad milk from the ethanol swell. They then realized that it killed most of the TB, a lot of the Johne’s, and a lot of the pathogens,” Dr. Winter explains.

“It just started unraveling from there. I’d like to say, over the last hundred years, it has enabled the dairy industry to sell us dirtier and dirtier milk, with more germs in it, less of the good factors in it, and certainly less of the healthy white blood cells. It has a lot of the bad, dead, and excessive white blood cells because they have another infection, which is called mastitis... [Preventing] mastitis basically goes back to the soil. There were two things they didn’t teach us in vet school or medical school.

One is soil science and the other is plant science. Really, if you want to have a healthy child, you have to have healthy animals if you’re eating animal food. To have healthy animals, you have to have healthy plants, and you’re not going to get healthy plants without healthy soil. So, I’ve had to be a de facto soil scientist and a de facto plant scientist. That’s essential for healthy animals with no mastitis.”

The enzymes are a critical factor in raw milk. When you cook (pasteurize) the milk, you kill all the enzymes, including the lactoferrin and lactoperoxidase. The word “peroxidase” means hydrogen peroxide. White blood cells contain small amounts of hydrogen peroxide that it will spill out and kill bacteria. When those enzymes are destroyed, the milk loses its innate ability to prevent bacterial overgrowth. Lactoferrin has a similar effect. Lacto means milk and ferrin means iron. Slaughter houses actually use this kind of iron-bearing enzyme as a natural antibacterial agent.

Now we also have ultra-pasteurization, which employs exceptionally high heat for shorter amounts of time. This is even worse than regular pasteurization. You can tell a product has been ultra-pasteurized when it no longer requires refrigeration, and you can be certain such products will do you absolutely no good. Radiology (X-ray) technology is also used to essentially sterilize the milk. This is referred to as cold pasteurization.

“It’s a really incredible marketing scam for an irradiated food,” Dr. Winter says. “But they’re doing a great job of selling it. Some people are actually seeking out dairy products and meats that have been irradiated.” 

Other Types of Raw Milk

Cow’s milk isn’t the only type of raw milk you can drink. Other healthy options include goat, sheep, donkey, and camel. Milk from cows is the predominant type of milk in the US, but worldwide, more people drink goat milk than any other type of milk. Both sheep- and goat milk are closer to human milk than cow’s milk. Goat milk is almost identical, so babies who cannot tolerate cow’s milk may do quite well on goat milk.

“I had the pleasure of milking a camel this winter,” Dr. Winter says. “I was at Bird-in-Hand, Pennsylvania, at the Miller's Organic Farm. They milk camels... I found it a little bit strong for my taste. The flavor is delicious, but it’s like drinking white paint. It’s the heaviest, thickest, and whitest stuff I’ve ever seen in my life. But camel milk is very, very good for you.

There are a lot of people with food allergies, especially dairy allergies, who do great on camel milk. At the Miller’s Organic Farm, they sell it in their farm store... We have a dairy and a creamery in Wisconsin called Carr Valley Cheese. They have one of the top 10 cheeses in the whole world. It’s a triple cheese: goat, sheep, and cow milk mixed together, and it is phenomenal.” 

Where to Buy Raw Milk, and What to Do if It’s Not Legal in Your State

Raw-Milk-Facts.com and RealMilk.com are two excellent websites to peruse if you’re looking for raw milk. They can tell you what the status is for legality in your state. On a positive note, in the last 12 months, 33 states have opened up the legal status for raw milk. So, it’s getting easier to obtain.  EatWild.com and WestonAPrice.org also provide lists of certified organic farmers known to produce safe, wholesome raw dairy products. You can contact your local Weston A Price chapter leaderdirectly if you have questions. (Dr. Winter is the chapter leader for the Twin Cities.)

“I’m a foodie so I don’t mind putting a little extra effort [to obtain it],” Dr. Winter says. “It’s fun for me to find good food...I’m a member of two food co-ops. The movement started in Minnesota, so we have a head start...You can’t buy raw milk there yet, but you can buy really good milk.

What Sally Fallon recommends is if you can’t find raw milk, by the way, is to culture it. Buy organic, un-homogenized milk and turn it into yogurt or kefir. That way you put in some life back into it, some biology, some enzymes and probiotics. So that’s one thing you can do right now [if you don’t have access to raw milk] — culture your organic local milk.”

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THE  HEALTH  AND  STRENGTH  MAN  OF  YESTERDAY..... CHARLES  ATLAS,  IN  HIS COURSE  [STILL  AVAILABLE....TYPE  CHARLES  ATLAS   IN  YOUR  SEARCH-ENGINE  AND  UP  IT  WILL  COME]  OF  PHYSICAL  AND  EMOTIONAL  HEALTH,  GAVE  GREAT  EMPHASIS  TO  RAW  MILK.

IT  IS  INDEED  ONE  OF  THE  MOST  COMPLETE  FOODS  ON  PLANET  EARTH.

I  DRANK  AT  LEAST  A  PINT  A  DAY  AS  A  TEENAGER  -  RAW  MILK,  CREAM  COMES  TO  THE  TOP.

AS  MR.  ATLAS  SAID  I  WOUID  HAVE;   I  HAD  A  COMPLEXION   THE  GIRLS  WOULD  DIE  FOR.

RAW  MILK  COULD  WELL  BE  CALLED  A  WONDER  FOOD.

IT  MAY  BE  HARD   TO  GET  IN  SOME  PLACES..... MAN'S  PASTEURIZATION   LAWS  PRETTY  POWERFUL.

BUT  IF  YOU  CAN.......  GET  IT,  LOVE  IT...... ONE  OF  THE  BEST  FOODS  YOU  CAN  EAT.

Keith Hunt

A TIME OF RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS!!

AT  ABOUT  THE  MID-POINT  OF  THIS  FEAST  OF  TABERNACLES.

I'M  BUSY  UPLOADING  A  STUDY  THAT  IS  NOT  THE  HAPPIEST  FOR  SURE;  BUT  GOD  HAS  LAID  IT  ON  MY  HEART  TO  DO  SO  AT  THIS  TIME.

DURING  THE  FEAST  OF  TABERNACLES  WE  THINK  ABOUT  THE  FUTURE  AND..... AS  PAUL  CALLED  IT  IN  ONE  VERSE  "THE  AGE  TO  COME"  -  AND  IN  THAT  AGE [ACTUALLY  BEFORE  IT  ALSO AS  JESUS  SAID]  THERE  WILL  BE  THE RESTITUTION  OF  ALL  THINGS.

THERE  WILL  BE  AN  ADMITTING  OF  ERROR,  CORRUPTION,  SIN,  WICKEDNESS,  FALSEHOOD,  AND  ALL  DECEPTIONS..... ANYTHING  THAT  IS  NOT  THE  "TRUE  LIGHT"  OF  GOD  AND  HIS  RIGHTEOUSNESS.

IT  WILL  BE  THE  TIME  WHEN  THE  KNOWLEDGE  OF  GOD  COVERS  THE  EARTH  AS  THE  WATERS  COVER  THE  SEA  BEDS...... MEDITATE  ON  THAT  GLORY;  WOW  IT  IS  MIND-BLOWING!!

THE  NATIONS  OF  THE  EARTH  WILL  KNOW  TRUTH  FROM  FALSEHOOD;  RIGHTEOUSNESS  FROM  SIN!

ONE  TRUTH  WILL  BE  WHO  WERE  THE  TRUE  DISCIPLES  OF  CHRIST;  WHO  WERE  THE  TRUE  MEMBERS  OF  THE  BODY  OF  CHRIST,  DURING  THE  NEW  TESTAMENT  AGE,  AND  UP  TO  THE  RETURN  OF  JESUS  TO  EARTH.

ONE  MIGHTY.... WELL  HUGE ....  THE  LARGEST  "CHRISTIAN  CHURCH"  ON  EARTH,  CLAIMS  TO  BE  THE  TRUE  CHURCH  OF  GOD;  CLAIMS  TO  BE  DESCENDED  FROM  THE  APOSTLE  PETER.  IT  IS  OF  COURSE  THE  ROMAN  CATHOLIC  CHURCH.  MANY  MEMBERS  IN  THAT  CHURCH  WILL  SAY  THE  POPE  IS  THE  CLOSEST TO  BEING  GOD  ON  EARTH,  ABOVE  EVERYONE  ELSE.

WITH  THE  PRESENT  POPE,  BEING  CHARISMATIC,  DOWN-TO-EARTH,  WITH  A  HUMBLE  ATTITUDE  OF  MIND,  AND  WITH  A  FRIENDLY  SMILE;  MANY  WHO  LEFT  THAT  CHURCH  ARE  RETURNING..... AND  THIS CHURCH  CONTINUES   TO  GATHER  MEMBERS  NEAR  AND  FAR.

BUT  THERE  IS  A  DARK  SIDE  TO  THIS  ROMAN  CHURCH;  FEW  KNOW  ABOUT  IT;  FEW  WANT  TO  KNOW  ABOUT  IT;  IT  IS  WRITTEN  IN  RECORDED  HISTORY;  THE  FACTS  ARE  OBTAINABLE  -  IF  YOU  WANT  THE  TRUTH  OF  THE  MATTER.

THOSE  FACTS  ARE  NOW  BEING  UPLOADED  TO  MY  HISTORY  SECTION  OF  MY  WEBSITE [keithhunt.com].

YES,  LIKE  IT  OR  NOT,  THE  TRUTH  CAN  BE  OBTAINED  NOW;  AND  CERTAINLY  IN  THE  AGE  TO  COME,  ALL  PEOPLES  OF  ALL  NATIONS,  WILL  COME  TO  SEE  AND  UNDERSTAND  THE  TRUTH  OF  THE  ROMAN  CHURCH.

ALL  HISTORY  WILL  BE  SHOWN  TO  ALL  PEOPLE;  AND  THOSE  THAT  WALKED  IN  DARKNESS  SHALL  SEE  A  GREAT  LIGHT!

KNOWING  THE  TRUTH,  IS  A  WONDERFUL  BLESSING.  DURING  THIS  FEAST  OF  TABERNACLES,  WE  SHOULD  BE  REJOICING  IN  TRUTH.  YOU  SHOULD  BE  PRAISING  THE  LORD  IF  YOU  HAVE  BEEN  CALLED  TO  RECEIVE  THE  TRUTHS  OF  GOD'S  WORD,  AND  THE  TRUTHS  OF  RECORDED  HISTORY.
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FEAST OF TABERNACLES 2015

TODAY  SEPTEMBER  28  2015  IS  THE  FIRST  DAY  OF  THE  FEAST  OF  TABERNACLES.

IT  IS  A  7  DAYS  FEAST  -  SEVEN  THE  NUMBER  OF  COMPLETION  [7  DAYS  GOD  DID  WHAT  IS  WRITTEN  IN  GENESIS  1].  FOR  EACH  DAY  GOD  SAID  IT  WAS GOOD!  WHAT  THE  ETERNAL  DID  WAS  COMPLETE  A  BEAUTIFUL  WORLD  FROM  THE  ABYSS  OF  WATER.

THE  ISRAEL  TABERNACLE  WAS  A  TEMPORAL  PLACE  FOR  GOD  TO  LIVE  WITH  ISRAEL.

THIS  FEAST  IS  ON  THE  HEELS  OF  THE  SECOND  GREAT  HARVEST  IN  ISRAEL.

IT  WAS  TO  BE  CELEBRATED  WITH  JOY,  GOOD  FOOD  AND  DRINK;  A  VERY  FESTIVE  TIME.

IT  PICTURES  THE  WONDERFUL  JOYOUS  TIME  PERIOD  OF  THE  AGE  TO  COME;

WHEN  JESUS  WILL  RETURN  AND  COME  TO  AGAIN  LIVE  ON  EARTH.

IT  IS  THE  TIME  OF  THE  RESTORATION  OF  ALL  THINGS.

THERE  ARE  LITERALLY  PASSAGES  AND  PASSAGES  IN  THE  OLD  TESTAMENT,  ESPECIALLY  IN  THE  PROPHETS,  ABOUT  THIS  AGE  TO  COME.  SOME  MAY  NOT  BELIEVE  IT  IS  LITERAL.  BUT  HERE  IS  THE  PROOF  IT  IS:  ALL  THE  PROPHECIES  OF  THE  FIRST  COMING  OF  CHRIST  THE  MESSIAH,  WERE  FULFILLED  LITERALLY!
HENCE  ALL  THE  PROPHECIES  OF  HIS  SECOND  COMING  IN  POWER  AND  GLORY,  WILL  ALSO  BE  FULFILLED  LITERALLY!

WE  LIVE  NOW  IN  A  WORLD  FILLED  WITH  MUCH  SORROW,  HEART-ACHE,  WARS,  KILLINGS,  REFUGEES,  SICKNESS,  STARVATION,  FAMINE,  DRUG  AND  ALCOHOL  ADDICTION,  THE  BREAK-UP  OF  HOMES;  THE  MISTREATMENT  OF  CHILDREN,  AND  MANY  MORE  PROBLEMS  THAT  BRING  CRYING  AND  ANGUISH.

I  HAVE  EXPOUNDED  FOR  YOU  ALL  THE  PROPHETS  OF  THE  BIBLE  ON  MY  WEBSITE,  WITH  ALL  THE  WONDERFUL  GOOD  NEWS  OF  WHAT  THEY  TELL  US  ABOUT  THAT  AGE  TO  COME.

IT'S  EVEN  WRITTEN  ABOUT  IN  THE  PSALMS.

IT'S  GOING  TO  BE  A  WORLD  THAT  IS  OUT-OF-THIS-WORLD  AS  THE  SAYING  GOES.

BUT  IT  WILL  BE  ON  THIS  WORLD;  ON  THIS  EARTH.

SO  FOR  7  DAYS  WE  ARE  TO  REJOICE;  REJOICE  WITH  A  MERRY  HEART;  REJOICE  WITH  GREAT  FOOD  AND  DRINK;  BUT  ESPECIALLY  REJOICE  WITH  THE  WORDS  WRITTEN  IN  THE  BIBLE  ABOUT  THIS  COMING  AGE.

REJOICE  THAT  FOR  A  THOUSAND  YEARS  SATAN  AND  DEMONS  WILL  BE  CHAINED  UP,  NOT  TO  DECEIVE  THE  NATIONS;  REJOICE  THAT  GOD'S  SPIRIT  WILL  FILL  ALL  NATIONS;  REJOICE  THAT  THE  LAW  OF  GOD  WILL  GO  FORTH  FROM  JERUSALEM,  AND  THE  WORD  OF  THE  LORD  FROM  ZION.  REJOICE  THAT  THE  NATIONS  WILL  NOT  LIFT  UP  SWORD  AGAINST  NATIONS,  AND  WHERE  THEY  WILL  LEARN  WAR  NO  MORE.

SICKNESSES,  LIKE  THE  PLAGUE  OF  CANCER  WILL  BE  NO  MORE;  THE  DEAF  WILL  HEAR;  THE  BLIND  WITH  SEE;  THE  LAME  WILL  WALK.

THE  EARTH  WILL  BE  CLEANED  UP  AND  BLOOM  WITH  GOODNESS  LIKE  THE  GARDEN  IN  EDEN.

ALL  FALSE  DECEPTIONS;  ALL  FALSE  THEOLOGICAL  ERRORS  -  THEY  WILL  BE  GONE  ALSO.

IT  IS  WRITTEN  FOR  THAT  TIME:  THE  EARTH  SHALL  BE  COVERED  WITH  THE  KNOWLEDGE  OF  GOD  AS  THE  WATERS  COVER  THE  SEAS...... WOW  THAT  THOUGHT  JUST  BLOWS  ME  AWAY.

SO  FOR  7  DAYS  WE  SHOULD  HAVE  A  BREAK  FROM  ALL  THE  SORROWS  IN  THE  WORLD  -  THEY  WILL  BE  THERE  AFTER  THIS  FEAST  IS  OVER.

IT  IS  TIME  NOW  TO  ESPECIALLY  REJOICE  IN  THE  LORD,  AND  AGAIN  I  SAY  REJOICE!!
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THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND HISTORY

I  DID  NOT  MAKE  HISTORY;  I  DID  NOT  WRITE  HISTORY.

HISTORY  HAS  ALWAYS  BEEN  SINCE  THE  SECOND  DAY  MANKIND  WALKED  THE  EARTH.

HISTORY  IS  BEING  WRITTEN  EVERY  DAY;  TODAY  WILL  BE  HISTORY  TOMORROW.

ALL  NATIONS  HAVE  A  HISTORY.

ALL  IDEOLOGIES  HAVE  A  HISTORY.

ALL  RELIGIONS  HAVE  A  HISTORY.

CERTAINLY  THE  LARGEST  CHRISTIAN  CHURCH  IN  THE  WORLD,  HAS  A  HISTORY.

THAT  LARGEST  CHRISTIAN  CHURCH  HAS  ABOUT  1. 2 BILLION,  YES  WITH  A  "B"  -  MEMBERS.

THAT  LARGEST  CHRISTIAN  CHURCH  IS  THE  ROMAN CATHOLIC  CHURCH.

IT  HAS  A  HISTORY,  THOUGH  MOST  OF  ITS  MEMBERS  HAVE  NEVER  STOPPED  TO  READ  ITS  HISTORY.

IF  THEY  DID,  THEY  WOULD  MAYBE,  BE  SHOCKED  AS  TO  WHAT  THEY  WOULD  FIND.

I  WOULD  CERTAINLY  BE  VERY  SURPRISED  IF  ANY  ROMAN  CATHOLIC  SCHOOL  WOULD  TEACH  ITS  STUDENTS,  THE  PLAIN  UP-FRONT  HISTORY  OF  THE  ROMAN  CATHOLIC  CHURCH.

WELL  AT  LEAST  ONE  MAN  HAS  WRITTEN  ABOUT  "THE  DARK  HISTORY"  OF  THE  ROMAN  CATHOLIC  CHURCH.

YES  IT'S  ALL  THERE  IN  HISTORY.

AND  YOU  CAN  READ  IT  ON  MY WEBSITE  UNDER  "HISTORY"  SECTION.

THAT  SECTION  OF  MY  WEBSITE  ALSO  GIVES  YOU  MANY  PARTS  OF  HISTORY;  PARTS  OF  HISTORY  SELDOM  TAUGHT;  PARTS  OF  HISTORY  BEING DISCOVERED  THAT  CORRECT  PARTS  OF  HISTORY  ALREADY  WRITTEN,  BUT  OFTEN  INCORRECTLY,  OR  LEAVING  OUT  HISTORICAL  TRUTHS,  THAT  WOULD  CORRECT  ALREADY  WRITTEN  HISTORY.

SO  FOR  THE  HISTORY  BUFFS...... YOU'LL  LIKE  THAT  SECTION  OF  MY  WEBSITE [keithhunt.com]
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