Wednesday, March 23, 2022

PASSOVER #7--- ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW--- AND MORE

 JESUS DID NOT OBSERVE

                THE PASSOVER - ACCORDING TO 
                            SOME 

                          Part One

     Apparently the "House of Yahweh" church organization teaches
that Jesus did not observe the Passover on the evening before His
death. It would I guess to some other type of meal which He kept
with His disciples. I am not sure what they think this meal
was called, nor I am sure if they claim the NT tells us what this
meal was called that Jesus observed that very special evening.
But they certainly do not want to believe, nor you to believe,
that Jesus was actually eating THE PASSOVER meal that night with
His twelve inner circle disciples.
     
     They put forth a number of NT Scriptures that they claim
back their theological position. We shall begin to look at each
of them and see if those verses really teach what they want you
to believe they teach.

     One important tool to understanding the Bible correctly is
to read the context of any given scripture or verse, that anyone
throws out to you as a proof text for their doctrinal stance on
any particular subject.  More false doctrine has been promulgated
by people who take a verse out of context ( or who close their
eyes to other verses either before or after their verse they try
to use to prove they are correct ) than probably any other way
that leads to error and false teaching.

     Another very often used form of study proof texting, is to
use just certain so-called "scholars" and their slant on a word
or phrase (which may be from their doctrinal bias, yes, as
shocking as it sounds, that does happen within the circle of the
"scholars").  Or they may quote only from the scholars of Greek
and Hebrew, the part that suits their teaching only, and so once
more making you think the scholars agree with them.  Of course,
they will not tell you that even "scholars" of Greek and Hebrew
(and other skills also) DISAGREE among themselves at times. We
all know how the "doctors" of the medical profession will
disagree with each other. We see it all the time on the
investigative TV shows such as "Dateline" - "60 Minutes" -
"20/20" etc.  Yet, some how we religious people quake in our
boots if someone quotes a "scholar" who may have studied Greek or
Hebrew. And if a "church" quotes such a fellow to back their
teaching, well that seals the matter, so we think, not realizing
other Greek and Hebrew scholars may completely disagree with the
ideas and the theology of the first guy.

     We need to be aware of such tactics by some "religious" folk
and church organizations.

     Let's get to the first verse presented to try and prove
Jesus did not observe the Passover but some other kind of meal
the night before He died.

MATTHEW 26:18

     You may first want to read this verse in the KJV, NKJV, NIV,
or some other translation, maybe many translations.

     It is claimed that the literal word for word translation is:

"....The time of Me near is before you sacrifice the passover in
company with my disciples of Me."

     Then it is stated by Kevin Richardson, from whom this
information comes: "correctly translated it should read: 'And He
said; go into a city to a certain man, and say to him: My teacher
says; My time is near at hand before you sacrifice the Passover
with My disciples."

     I'm not sure where this supposed correct translation comes
from, from which scholar I do not know, but I do have TWO Greek
scholars and their NT books in my library. I shall give you their
translation of the Greek in this verse, yet not only this verse,
but the verses that proceed and follow this eighteenth verse of
Matthew.

HERE IS HOW GEORGE RICKER BERRY Ph.D. TRANSLATES MATTHEW
26:17-19.

     "Now on the first of unleavened came the disciples to
Jesus, saying to Him, Where wilt thou we should prepare for thee
to eat the PASSOVER?  And He said, Go into the city unto such a
one, and say to him, The teacher says, My time near is, with thee
will keep the PASSOVER with my disciples. And did the disciples
as directed them Jesus, and PREPARED THE PASSOVER."

HERE'S HOW JAY P. GREEN Sr. TRANSLATED THE SAME VERSES.

     "...on the And first unleavened came the disciples to Jesus,
saying to Him, Where will You we mat prepare for You to eat THE
PASSOVER? And He said, Go into the city to such a one, and say to
him, The teachers says, The time of Me near is; towards you I
make the PASSOVER, with the disciples of Me. And did the
disciples as ordered them - Jesus, and PREPARED THE PASSOVER."

     Now you may want to study the Greek words "TOWARDS" and
"MAKE" as given by Green. They are numbers 4314 and 4160 in
Strong's Concordance.  You will also find them under those
numbers in the THAYER'S GREEK-ENGLISH LEXICON of the NT. 
Thayer has MUCH to say about those two words, a very lengthy
discord and explanation, which I will leave for the reader to
investigate at his /her leisure, when they have a few hours of
spare time.

     Regardless of the arguing that the House of Yahweh and some
others may want to get into with those two above Greek words, the
fact should be very plain and easy to see and understand from the
CONTEXT (verses before and after verse 18), that the preparation
Jesus sent the disciples to do, the request from the disciples
themselves to Jesus as to what to prepare for, WAS TO PREPARE FOR
THE PASSOVER!!!  
     
     NOTHING COULD BE PLAINER! 

     The CONTEXT is very clear on the matter,  The day had
arrived when the Jews STARTED to unleaven their homes,  it was
the very start of the 14th, just as the sun had set, and the
disciples were now very concerned. Jesus had not yet said
anything about the preparing for the Passover that evening. They
voiced their concern and Jesus told them where to go to prepare
the PASSOVER.  They did as He said and went to PREPARE THE
PASSOVER.  
     I mean to say, how many more time does God have to inspire
Matthew to use the word Passover (Greek is Pascha) to tell us
that it was the PASSOVER they were going to PREPARE for Jesus and
the twelve disciples?

     Oh, the depths of the un-believing hearts of some. No wonder
Jesus got upset at times with the Jews and their religious
leaders and quoted the Scripture "Even though it be told you,
still you will not believe."

     It would seem times have not changed that much today from
yesterday when Christ walked this earth.

     Some may wonder about this "first of the unleavened" and
think it was already the 15th of the first month, already the
beginning of the feast of Unleavened Bread.  No it was not!  It
was the custom of the Pharisees and their followers to started to
remove the leaven from their homes on the 14th. By the late
morning of the 14th it was to be out, and they were not to eat
any leaven from that time forth until the end of the feast of UB. 
It was a Jewish custom (part of the Jews, not all) of the day
ONLY, not a part of the law of God.  Nowhere does the law require
the 14th of Nisan to be a complete day of unleavened bread.  Only
the Passover meal was to be eaten with unleavened bread as
given in Exodus 12. The feast of UB did not start until the
beginning of the 15th.  The 14th was a preparation day leading up
to the 15th, just as the apostle John tells us in his
Gospel.
     Matthew was just using an historical Jewish custom of the
day when he stated "Now on the first of unleavened came the
disciples."   He was then in fact telling us it was the beginning
of the 14th day of Nisan, it was sunset and they were very
concerned that Jesus had not yet told them where to go to prepare
the PASSOVER!  This He then proceeded to inform them and they did
go forth to PREPARE THE PASSOVER.

     More Scriptural arguments from the House of Yahweh I will
answer in part two.

                .............................

 JESUS DID NOT OBSERVE THE 
               PASSOVER - ACCORDING TO SOME

                          Part Two

     The second Scripture given by the House of Yahweh (as
presented to us by Kevin Richardson) is: 

MARK 14:14

     "And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of
the house, The Master saith, Where is the guest chamber where I
shall eat the Passover with my disciples?"

     Then we are told:

     "The literal word for word translation for this scripture
is:  '.....Says to you the Teacher: Where is the guest room in
which the Passover together the disciples of Me may eat?'   Or,
correctly translated:  ' And wherever he enters, say to the owner
of the house: The Teacher says, Where is the guest room in which
My disciples may eat the Passover together?' "

     Once more the reader may want to look at this verse in
various translations, the more the better. Please remember to
read the CONTEXT - before and after.

     I presume the argument is that this verse does not
SPECIFICALLY say Jesus will PARTAKE WITH the disciples of the
Passover, hence He did not (according to the House of Yahweh)
partake of the Passover that night. Let them so argue and let
them so delude themselves. Other verses in the Gospels show Jesus
did partake with His disciples of the Passover that night. And
even if we go along with the idea that He did not, we can still
clearly see from the NT that Jesus DID PARTAKE of the NT Passover
symbols - the bread and cup. He introduced to them that NT
ordinance - established it - explained to them what the NT
Covenant symbols of the bread and fruit of the vine represented.
And further, this verse is as clear as a sunny day in the
Canadian Rockies, that it WAS the PASSOVER the disciples would
observe and partake of.

HERE IS THE CONTEXT OF THE PASSAGE AS TRANSLATED BY JAY P. GREEN
Sr.

     "And on the first of the unleavened, when the Passover they
killed (this is all explained in another study of mine - Keith
Hunt), say to Him the disciples of Him, Where do you wish going
we may prepare that You eat the Passover? And He sends two of the
disciples of Him, and says to them, Go into the city, and will
meet you a man a pitcherof water carrying; follow him. And where
ever he enters, tell the housemaster, The Teacher says, Where is
the guestroom where the PASSOVER with the disciples of Me may
eat? And he you will show an upper room large, being spread
ready. There you PREPARE FOR US. And went forth the disciples of
Him, and came into the city, and found as He told them, and they
PREPARED THE PASSOVER" (Mark 14:12-16).

HERE IS HOW GEORGE RICKER BERRY TRANSLATED FROM THE GREEK  
THIS  SECTION OF SCRIPTURE.

     "And on the first day of unleavened, when the Passover they
killed, (Fred Coulter also explains this fully in his book on the
Passover - Keith Hunt), say to him his disciples, Where desirest
thou going we should prepare that thou mayest eat the Passover? 
And he sends forth two of his disciples, and says to them, Go
into the city, and will meet you a man a pitcher of water
carrying; follow him; and wherever he may enter, say to the
master of the house, The teachers says, Where is the
guest-chamber where the PASSOVER with my disciples may eat? and
he you will show an upper room large, furnished ready. There
PREPARE FOR US. And went away his disciples, and came into
the city, and found as he had said to them, and they PREPARED THE
PASSOVER. And EVENING being come he comes with the twelve. And as
were reclining they and WERE EATING  said Jesus.......AND AS THEY
WERE EATING, having taken Jesus a loaf, having blessed he brake,
and gave to them, and said........And having taken the cup,
having given thanks he gave to them.....And he said to
them......." (verses 12-24).

     I submit to you that any young child reading this passage
will see and understand from the words written that Jesus DID
PARTAKE with His disciples of the PASSOVER that evening (of the
14th of Nisan).  
     Is it PLAINLY STATED a number of times, so we would GET THE
POINT, that it was the PASSOVER the disciples went forth to the
upper room to PREPARE, for the rest of the disciples and Jesus to
come a little later and observe. It is clearly stated that while
and during the eating of that Passover, Jesus instituted the NT
Passover symbols and their meaning, of the bread and cup.

     There it is in CONTEXT.   Now you have the "rest of the
story" as one well known fellow is famous for saying.

     To think and believe that Jesus sat around NOT EATING AND
NOT DRINKING of this Passover while His disciples were so doing,
is deceptive mind folly to the utter outer limits. But people
will believe what they want to believe in order to hold to false
doctrines.  They fulfil the prophecy of Paul who wrote that in
the last days some would turn away from the truth, turn to men
with itching ears, ever learning but never able to come to the
knowledge of the truth, yet their folly he said would be manifest
unto all.

     One more verse is given, that of Luke 21:11.  I shall look
at that next time, in part three.

           ......................................
Written April 1998
by
Keith Hunt

 JESUS DID NOT OBSERVE
                THE PASSOVER - ACCORDING TO 
                            SOME

                         Part Three

     We are told by the House of Yahweh that the literal
translation of LUKE 22:11 is:

     " ....Says to you the Teacher: Where is the guest room in
which the Passover together the disciples of Me to eat?"

     Or, as they go on to say, correctly translated :  "Then you
will say to the owner of that house: The Teacher says to you;
Where is the guest room where My disciples may eat the passover
together?"

     We need to use the rule of CONTEXT reading any verse before
jumping to technical conclusions based upon so-called grammar
rules, for the grammar MAY be technically correct but the context
proves (and other verses elsewhere) another story altogether.

HERE IS THE CONTEXT READING AS TRANSLATED BY  
GEORGE RICKER BERRY FROM HIS GREEK/ENGLISH INTERLINEAR.

     "And came the day of unleavened in which was needful to be
killed the passover (fully explained by myself and Fred Coulter
in other studies - Keith Hunt), And He sent Peter and John,
saying, Having gone prepare FOR US the  PASSOVER, that WE may
EAT. But they said to Him, Where wilest thou we should prepare?
And He said to them, Lo, on your having entered into the city
will meet you a man, a pitcher of water carrying; follow him into
the house where he enters; and you shall say to the master of the
house, Says to thee the teacher, Where is the guest-chamber where
the PASSOVER with my disciples may eat? And he you will show
upper room a large furnished, there prepare. And having gone they
found as He had said to them; and they PREPARED THE PASSOVER. And
when was come the hour, He reclined , and the twelve apostles
with him. And He said to them, With DESIRE I desired THIS
PASSOVER to eat WITH YOU  before I suffer, For I say to you, that
no more not at all WILL EAT of it UNTIL it be fulfilled in the
Kingdom of God....."

THE TRANSLATION FROM THE GREEK BY GREEN Sr. is almost the exact
same as above, but he used none of the "thee" and "thou" words,
but more modern English.

     Regardless of some technical Greek grammar rule in some part
of some verse, Luke was inspired by what he wrote in the CONTEXT
with other Greek words to make it very clear to us that, Jesus
DID EAT AND PARTAKE OF AND OBSERVE THE PASSOVER with His
disciples that evening of the 14th, the day when they killed the
Passover lambs.

     According to the booklet by the House of Yahweh the pronoun
"I" has been added as the subject of each of the verses we have
looked at, when it does not appear in the Greek, the verb not
being in the nominative case (the only case where "I" is
understood to be the subject of the verb) in each.

     So they want to get technical. Sounds pretty good to those
scared stiff by Greek technicalities.  But you need to ask
yourself:  From where do they get this Greek technicality?  Did
it come from MODERN Greek?  Did it come from CLASSICAL Greek?
Well if it did, the NT was not written in either modern or
classical Greek, but it was written in COMMON Greek, the STREET
Greek of the first century. 
     Then it may be proved this rule of grammar was within the
Common Greek of the time Luke and the others wrote their Gospels.
SO WHAT I ASK !  The writers may have stayed within a certain
rule of grammar in a certain section of a certain verse, just to
be technical, but that does not mean they were trying to prove to
you that Jesus did not eat the Passover that night while His
disciples did.  OTHER VERSE THEY USED IN THE CONTEXT PROVES THEY
HAD NO SUCH TEACHING IN THEIR MINDS!!  Other words in the context
show they understood that Jesus DID EAT the Passover that night
along with His disciples, and that He said He would NOT EAT of it
again UNTIL it was fulfilled in the Kingdom of God.

     Some Greek scholars want to make a big thing about, claim it
proves as a doctrine, the Holy Spirit is a PERSON (as much as the
Father  and Christ are Spirit persons) because some NT writers
(such as John) called the Spirit "HE" and not "it" in some
verses.  They also were writing technically, from a rule of the
Greek grammar (explained in my studies on the Holy Spirit, and by
the old WCG in their past literature).
     It did not mean they were trying to prove from this rule of
Greek grammar that the Holy Spirit was a MALE PERSON.  Many other
verses must be brought to bear on that subject as to whether the
Holy Spirit is a third member of the literal personal Godhead,
not just a figure of speech grammar, that is also found in a
number of other languages, such as Spanish.

     The Greek NT can be at times strange and somewhat
bewildering to us English writing people.  First, if we want to
talk about "rules" - the Hebrew and Greek of the OT and NT had no
punctuation!  It had no sentencing, just one letter after another
in the original manuscripts.  Enough to make the average English
reader and writer go "bug- eyed" and pull his hair out in
disconcerting bewilderment.  What "rules" of grammar were
they using for such a way to write?
     And besides all that, who was to say that writers of the
Bible HAD to OBEY whatever is claimed today was the rule of
grammar?  How do they know it was the rule of grammar back then?
Has a text book on B.C. Hebrew grammar or first century NT
Greek grammar been preserved for us?  I have never heard there is
such an old book in some library. But suppose there is, does that
mean people HAD to obey it in every instant of every phrase and
sentence they wrote?  OF COURSE NOT!  Not any more than I have to
obey the English rules of grammar.  There is no one standing over
me to FORCE me to keep and obey the so-called English rules of
grammar, if I so choose not to. Looking at Greek grammar can be
educational at times IF kept in balance and if it does not become
an island unto itself to establish doctrine upon.
     Most English grammar teachers would have thrown their book
and their desk and chair at HWA for the way he wrote booklets,
with CAPITALIZED words and " - " all over the place.  When I first
got some of his booklets and gave them to a friend, his first
statement to me on seeing them was: "He writes just like he
preaches."  
     The Internet, I discovered when I first came on line, some
two years ago, has some rule that says CAPITALIZATION of letters
is "Shouting."  Some guy or gal somewhere at some time decided,
in the corner of their dark and dusty room, to make this a rule
for talking in Internet space.  Are we FORCED to obey that rule? 
Not on your life, and many of us on this forum do not!  We write
with CAPITALS not to shout but for EMPHASIS, as did old HWA.

     So rules can be okay in grammar, but they are not the Laws
of God, and to take some grammar rule in some part of some
sentence and close your eyes to the context and other verses on
the subject, will sooner or later lead you down the garden path
into the thorn bushes of false ideas and doctrines.  Such has
been done by the House of Yahweh in their teaching that Jesus did
not partake of the Passover with His disciples on that last day
of His physical life on this earth.  Such an idea is contrary to
the context of the Gospels and to other verses using other words
within the Gospels.

     The PLAIN TRUTH is there to see on this subject if your eyes
are open to see it, and you remember to read the context.

              .................................

Written April 1998
by
Keith Hunt


Passover studies - only the beginning

The previous studies were only some of the studies I have done on 
this Passover issue, especially concerning the debate over the 14th 
or the 15th.  On that issue I have done much more in-depth research 
and have answered many more of the arguments from those holding to a 
15th Passover. All of that is contained a 72 page manuscript so far, all of those  studies did so far. 
A man by the name of Steven put forth the following arguments:

Hi Keith and all

Keith wrote:

You 15th Passover observers want me and everyone else to believe,
The Israelites were in their homes IN GOSHEN on the night of the
15th, there till at least midnight as that is when the death
angel came over the homes. You want me to believe (as it is
written) some time lapsed for Moses to get the message that He
and Israel could leave. You want me to believe the Israelites in
Goshen got going that night and all arrived at Rameses (which was
not in Goshen).

Steven:
WCG believed that Israel left the night AFTER the Passover.
I believe (as the Jews do) that Israel left the night OF the
Passover.


RAMESES AND GOSHEN ARE ONE AND THE SAME. RAMESES IS A CITY IN
GOSH EN. They did not have to  gather in "Rameses."  See Ungers
Bible dictionary and the verses below.

Genesis 47:11 And Joseph placed his father and his brethren, and
gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the
land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded. THIS
TELLS US THEY LIVED IN RAMESES.

My Answer:
You have a strange way of reading the Bible at times Steven.
Nothing here says Rameses was a city IN Goshen. It says  the land
of Rameses  just as I might say the land of London, meaning the
land that London was the main city thereof, and that would be all
of England. They lived IN Goshen, not in Rameses, but Rameses was
reasonably close by to Goshen, then parts of Goshen were not that
close to Rameses.
Better look at more Bible Encyclopedias and Bible Dictionaries
etc. concerning Goshen and Rameses my friend, just Ungers is not
enough.  They prove it was a city but Goshen was a land area.  My 
NKJV  Study  Bible has a map on page 104, Exodus 14, showing
Rameses and the  land  of  Goshen  were NOT the same, as you
are implying.  Also the Israelites had homes and herds of
livestock, such did not all exists inside the walls of Rameses,
possibility about 3 million or even more, plus tens of thousands
or a few million, Egyptians.

Steven:
Exodus 12:37, " And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses
to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men,
beside children."  Numbers 33:3, " And they departed from Rameses
in the first month, on the  fifteenth day of the first month;
on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out
with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians."  Numbers
33:5, " And the children of Israel removed from Rameses, and
pitched  in Succoth."
The above show clearly, dare I say incontrovertibly, that the
Israelites  first trek was from where they kept the Passover
(Rameses) to where they  first encamped (Succoth).

My Answer:
Says no such thing.  None of these verses say the Israelites
observed the Passover IN the city of Rameses. It says they
departed from the city of Rameses ON THE MORROW after the
Passover. Everything I have said and shown in my studies before
posted (over the last two years or more) shows they departed on
the night (evening) of the 15th, the morrow after the evening of
the 14th when they began to observe the Passover.

Steven:
Genesis 33:17, "And Jacob journeyed to Succoth, and built him an
house, and  made booths for his cattle: therefore the name of the
place is called Succoth."

My Answer:
It was not called Succoth until Jacob made booths. The writer
writes in the PRESENT (as the name was given) but then goes back
into the past to tell you how it got that name. No one knows
where Succoth was, they have found no sign post saying,  this
is Succoth  in any Archaeological digs.

Steven:
The Israelites went to Succoth to pick up their cattle (and
possibly some  ducks and geese). The name Succoth means cattle
pens, or rude, crude and  temporary structures made of branches
which were use to pen up their cattle.

My Answer:
The Israelites went WHEN to pick up their cattle?  Sure was not
at the Exodus, for not one verse gives any teaching of the kind
you are promoting. The verses say they left Rameses WITH their
herds etc. 

Steven:
Genesis 33:17 explains to us why Succoth is called Succoth. Do
you seriously believe that the cattle lived right in the city of
Rameses with them like cattle do in Calcutta today?

My Answer:
I ve answered this already. Certainly not for they lived in a
large land area called Goshen, see the Bible Encyclopedias for
the area of where they think this was and also where they think
the city of Rameses was located.

Steven:
The Bible does not state that they took exactly one day to reach
Succoth - all it states is that Succoth was their first stop
after leaving Rameses - and it was at Succoth that they baked
instant bread (unleavened bread). Being on the move, there was no
time for leavened bread to rise.

My Answer:
I agree, it was not one day to reach Succoth, it was a number of
hours into the evening of the 15th, then they pitched their tents
(succoth) and rested overnight, hence where they rested was 
tents  or succoth, or booths. It was not a town or city  as such.
Not one verse says,  they marched to the town of Succoth and
there rested. 

Steven:
Let s suppose, for argument s sake that I am wrong, and that they
took their cattle with them from Rameses to Succoth. The point
still remains that  they removed themselves from Rameses (their
permanent dwelling place) to Succoth (or first temporary dwelling
place - as the name Succoth implies).

My Answer:
No. they lived in Goshen, the land of, and went to the city of
Rameses, and from there set out on the evening of the 15th, at
night, and went for a while until they stopped and set up camp,
their tents, until they succothed, tented. You build your case on
a very wrong idea that they all lived in the city of Rameses.
Nothing could be further from the truth of the matter. 

Steven:
Here is further PROOF that the Israelites did not dawdle in Egypt
for 18 whole hours, only to leave the following evening. Verse
41, " And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and
thirty years,  EVEN THE SELFSAME DAY it came to pass, that all
the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt."

My Answer:
Your understanding is again misunderstanding words. The
Israelites did not leave the land boundaries of Egypt in one day
of 24 hours. So this type of speech or figure of speech means
they were LIBERATED from Egyptian bondage in one day, the 14th
day at even till the 15th day at even. They were FREE from Egypt
and the past life but not free from the literal boundaries of the
land of Egypt until a few days later, that is quite clear from
the rest of the commentary in Exodus.

Steven:
Verse 42, "IT IS A NIGHT TO BE MUCH OBSERVED unto the LORD for
bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is THAT NIGHT of
the LORD to be observed of all the children of Israel in their
generations. Verse 43, " And the LORD said unto Moses and Aaron,
THIS IS THE ORDINANCE OF THE PASSOVER."

The above three verses are talking about one and only one event,
not two separate events. The SELFSAME DAY they left is A NIGHT TO
BE MUCH OBSERVED since they began to leave THAT NIGHT (after) the
PASSOVER.

My Answer:
No, once more you do not understand how the Bible is written.
There were no sentences or punctuations of ANY kind in the
original Hebrew text, one letter and one word just came right
after another. All Scriptures must be taken on any given subject.
The KJV has it correct. Verse 43 starts another thought and
another subject. Back to the Passover ordinance, the verse before
in context and with other scriptures was the subject of the 15th
evening when they left Rameses by night. Then the Lord again
speaks unto Moses concerning the Passover, the other subject of
the 15th evening for now ending.

Steven:
Don t be confused by the punctuation of the KJV and the little    
at the start of verse 43. There is no break in these 3 verses.

My Answer:
The breaks do come and are to be put, but only as other
scriptures prove what is what. When you see clearly the truth
about the Passover on the 14th (the beginning of) and the
departing from Rameses on the 15th (beginning of), then you can
know when the subject of one ends and the other starts. 

Steven:
Keith's story chose to ignore all the evidence of a speedy
departure. So let s imagine eating supper in haste, all packed
up, walking stick in hand,  belt tightened, shoes tied up
expecting the signal to leave at any moment,  and knowing that
one will not be coming back. Then at midnight there comes the cry
signalling death to the enemy, and liberty for them. The angel
which dealt death to their enemies would have held no threat for
them. If they were not about to depart right away that night, why
did they not get a good night s rest for the busy day tomorrow?
Because their state of readiness proves conclusively that THEY
WERE JUST WAITING FOR THE SIGNAL TO MOVE OUT.

My Answer:
Fred Coulter and I have gone over this in great detail time and
time again. Your hasty, all done in 4 or 5 hours is just
impossible, unless you ignore verses, have all Israel
living in Rameses, and a feast of 7 days and not 8 as God said.
You really do need to read at least the first half of Fred
Coulter s book on this subject VERY SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY, for all
the truth of all verses is there explained, and they can only
harmonize with a beginning of the 14th Passover and a beginning
of the 15th departure from Rameses. 
God did not come over the houses to kill the first born until
midnight, then there had to be time for the Egyptians to realize
fully what had happened, some shock and mourning. Then Moses was
told that they could leave, but not before the morning, which
could have been as early as between 5 and 6 a.m. And that brings
us to your next argument.

Steven:
What about the word  morning  or  boqer  (Strongs 01242) in
Hebrew.  Here are some verses which show that morning can mean
while it is still dark> or night.

Genesis 44:3, " As soon as the morning <01242> was light
<0215>...."

If morning can be light, then early morning must be dark.

Exodus 14:24, "And it came to pass that in the morning <01242>
watch, the Lord looked unto the host  of the Egyptians  through
the pillar of fire  and of the cloud,  and troubled the host  of
the Egyptians...."
    
The morning watch Ungers defines as  from 2 a.m. to sunrise  (see
Ex 14:24; 1 Sam. 11:11). It is around this time in the early
morning that I suppose Israel began to move out (while it was
still dark).

I Samuel 29:10, "Wherefore now rise up early <07925>  in the
morning <01242> with thy master s  servants  that are come with
thee: and as soon as ye be up early in the morning <01242>, and
have light, depart...."

Here is one of 32 times that  early in the morning is mentioned."
Clearly some of the times referred to are while it is still dark
or night. Thus morning in Hebrew means what we in English take it
to mean (with perhaps the exception of being from 2 a.m. onwards
not midnight).

My Answer:
Gone over this in detail in my studies in some detail.  The word
clearly means morning  and only in a FEW rare exceptions means
anything different, and then the CONTEXT tells you when those
exceptions are used. If the context does not state the exception
meaning, then the MAIN one is to be taken. And this is exactly
how we today use language. Morning to us means day light and
after, up to 12 noon, UNLESS I say in my context (of language use
and exception to the normal meaning),  I will see you in the
morning at 3 a.m. while it is dark.   So it was also, in the use
of language in the Bible times, with people then, as it is with
us today.

Only when the context is so defining it for us, making it very
clear how the writer was using the word "morning" does it mean
anything BEFORE sun up.  Otherwise the very Hebrew word itself
means  morning  not night. Better look at some GOOD Hebrew
lexicons such THE THEOLOGICAL WORD BOOK OF THE OLD TESTAMENT.
Only in such works and THE ENGLISHMAN'S HEBREW CONCORDANCE is the
Hebrew word "boqer" and all places where it is used expounded to
give the whole truth, which is just as I ve stated. The MAIN and
first meaning for  morning  is when light comes.
The second use is only as the context indicates. In the Passover
context of the books of Moses, only the Hebrew word is used,
nothing more, hence as in all other places where only the Hebrew
word appears, with no other exception context to the norm, the
meaning is then always  morning  as when light appears. Just as I
may say to you,  I will see you in the morning  with no other
explanation of context, you are going to understand it as I will
see you when day light appears - the morning, not when it is
still dark or night. I often say this to the fellow I work with,
and he does not expect me to be seeing him in the dark. Our work
does not start till after sun-up. The EXCEPTIONS in the Bible are
clearly explained by the very words within the context. The Bible
uses many NORMS, with some exceptions. The exceptions are just
that....exceptions, not the norm, otherwise the norm would be the
exceptions.

Steven:
Notice how I Sam 29:10 refers to rising up early in the morning,
and waiting for  morning light  telling us that morning also
means darkness.

My Answer:
Just proves what I have said. The CONTEXT tells you WHEN an
exception to the NORM is being used. No need for guess work, the
Bible INTERPRETS itself when such contexts mean other than when
day light comes. If there's no such context, then morning means
morning, and not one minute before day light comes.
That is the common meaning of morning even to this day, when
nothing else is added in the speech context. And NOTHING was
added in any of the Passover contexts in the books of Moses. So
morning means morning or day light and not before. Again see "The
Theological WordBook of the OT."

Steven:
Israel moved out early morning on the 15th, a few hours after
eating the Passover meal in haste. This NIGHT, PASSOVER NIGHT, IS
A NIGHT TO BE MUCH OBSERVED FOR this SELFSAME DAY God brought
them out of Egypt.

My Answer:
No, you and the Pharisee Jews of Christ s time and today, have it
all wrong, upside down and backwards. I m being quite blunt about
this and quite dogmatic, for Jesus did observe the Passover at
the beginning of the 14th, it is as plain as the nose on your
face. Jesus did not observe some other early meal as some say. It
is written He observed the Passover, and the room was all ready
for them for the night of the beginning of the 14th, as the
disciples went forth and prepared the Passover. So it is
written. Now, just take that clear example and work backwards and
you can then understand correctly Exodus 12 and 13 and the rest
of the passages on the subject of the Passover in the books of
Moses. It is really just that simple.

Like so many other things by the time of Christ the majority of
"religious" Jews under the teaching of the Pharisees, had
perverted and twisted and got things out of sink regarding many
truths of God, as Jesus told them, their man made rules and
traditions had made void the commandments of God (Mark 7).
Written May 1998
by
Keith Hunt


Passover Lamb

Temple Sacrifice,
When?

                                by

                         Keith Hunt

     Can we know the background as to when the Israelites, and
specifically the people of Judah, started to practice a Temple
killing of the Passover lambs?  To some extent we can possibly
see from a few passages of Scripture the circumstances that led
to the theology practice and belief of the Pharisee sect, in
formulating a Temple Passover lamb killing on the day light
portion of the 14th of Nisan or Abib. It was the Pharisee sect of
Juadism that taught and practiced such a custom. The Pharisee
sect had its start probably during the Babylonian captivity
of Judah, from the fall of Jerusalem in 586 B.C. when the small
group synagogues were formed among the scattered Jewish people
while in exile in Babylon territory, and lay leaders within
these small groups were needed to keep alive some form of the
religion of the true God. 
     The Pharisee sect became the popular religious sect of the
common people after the Jews returned to re-build Jerusalem and
the Temple, when the 70 years captivity that God had ordained,
had come to an end.  It was only this Pharisee sect that taught
and practiced a 14th afternoon killing of the Passover lambs in
the Temple at Jerusalem by the Priesthood. And then going into
the evening of the 15th day to eat the Passover meal.

     Through all the history of Israel we find no account of a
Passover lamb killing in the Temple UNTIL way down to about 120
years before Judah was take captive by the Babylonian armies. It
was just before the final deportation and captivity of the
Northern House of Israel. We find the account in 2 Chronicles
chapter 30.

     A great religious revival back to the true worship of the
true God of Israel was being led by king Hezekiah. He sent
letters to all Israel, including the great tribes of Ephraim and
Manasseh, that they should come and observe the Passover at the
house of God in Jerusalem. To the king this was a wonderful way
to return back to the worship of the Lord, from the idolatry
they had been in for decades.

     When the king decided to invite the people of Israel to
Jerusalem to observe the Passover feast, it was too late in the
year to keep it in the first month as given in the law of Moses,
but he did see that for some special circumstances God allowed
the Passover to be observed on the 14th day of the second month
of the year. This was also written in the law of Moses. Hence the
king and his counsellors, together with the princes and the
people at Jerusalem, would observe the Passover in the second
month.  Besides the people from various parts of Israel not
having enough travelling time to get to Jerusalem for the 14th of
the first month, the priests also could not sanctify themselves
sufficiently (as they had to do according to the various physical
laws outlined by the word of God in the books of Moses) in time
to keep the 14th of the first month.

     All of this is found in the first verses of 2 Chronicles 30.

     Hezekiah sent out the letters to all Israel, calling for a
national repentance and a turning away from false worship of
false gods to true worship of the true God. Most of Israel just
laughed at Hezekiah's pleading, yet some in Israel did head and
desired to reform themselves (verses 6-11).
     There was much more sincere religious revival in the hearts
of those in the land of Judah (verse 12). They were willing to do
the commandment of the king and the princes. 

     As we further read, we come to see that this Passover
observance in many ways was NOT performed as originally written
in the laws of Moses (verse 18) for this was a unique time and
situation for the people of Israel and Judah, as the whole
context clearly brings out.

     Verse 15 tells us they killed the Passover lambs on the 14th
day.  Some argue that because the Hebrew phrase "between the two
evenings" is not used in this chapter, they then must have killed
the lambs during the day-light hours of the 14th. This then being
the first time recorded for us that such was ever done. While it
is indeed possible that this may have been the case, and we are
then reading an account recording for us the very first time the
Passover lambs were killed in the Temple by the Priests and
Levites during the day-light hours of the 14th day, it is in my
view, not a conclusive proof that such was the case. There are
other passages in the Bible talking about the Passover being on
the 14th day, which also do not use the phrase "between the two
evenings" but merely are stating a fact that the 14th day of the
first or second month (for unusual situations) was Passover day.
It is other clear verses that prove the killing of the Passover
lambs was to be at the beginning of the 14th, as I have brought
forth in other studies on this subject.
     
     The argument is also put forth that the evening sacrifice
and the killing of the Passover lambs could not take place within
the same evening, the beginning of the 14th. This I see is not
impossible for both to have been performed in the evening of the
14th. The Priests would have been doing the evening sacrifices,
or some of them, for it would not have taken all the Priests
to perform that ritual service.  But we are specifically told
that it was the Levities (another large group of Temple workers
apart from the Priests) that had the CHARGE of KILLING the
Passover lambs for every one that was not clean (verse 17).
     Did the Priests first perform the evening sacrifice and then
afterwards have the Levites kill some of the Passover lambs for
those unclean?  Maybe. We are not told the specifics. It may
have been a long evening for the Temple workers and some of the
people. Remember this was an unusual Passover and religious
revival at the same time. It may well have gone into the late
night (close to morning) before the people had to "leave nothing
of it remaining until the morning, but that which remains of it
until the morning you shall burn with fire" (Ex.12:10).


     Many were clean, and would have killed their own Passover
lambs in the original and long established household or domestic
Passover lamb killings, as detailed in Exodus chapter 12.
The Levites were only charged to kill Passover lambs for people
that were in some way "not clean" according to the laws of Moses.

     So under that situation, and reading no more into the
account than is stated, I see that it would be indeed quite
possible for all this "evening sacrifice" and Levite Passover
lamb killings for just some of the people, to have all been
performed during the evening and night of the beginning of the
14th day of the second month. This account does not of itself
prove a first time recorded instance of an afternoon Passover
lamb killing, as later taught and practiced by the Pharisee sect
of Judaism. Yet, I will leave it open that this could have been
the case, I just do not see enough evidence in this chapter to
nail it down as absolute proof this was the fact.

     Now, what IS taught here is that under this very distinct
situation in the history of Israel and Judah, we have people
gathering together at Jerusalem, and in specific, to the Temple
in Jerusalem, whereby some still being in a "not clean" condition
(at least they did not feel in a clean condition for whatever
reasons to kill the Passover lamb)  were willing to have the
Levites of the Temple service, kill their Passover lamb.
     King Hezekiah and his counsellors, the Priests and the
Levites, all agreed that this could be done for the people UNDER
THAT specific circumstance of that day and time.

     It is clearly stated in verse 18 that some things done in
eating that Passover was NOT according to the laws of Moses. But
Hezekiah had inquired of the Lord concerning it all, and the
Lord had given His approval for some things to be done
differently for THAT Passover than was written in the law of the
Lord.
     God, at times, is willing to vary the letter of the law,
when the spirit of the law is in the hearts of the people.

     This passage cannot conclusively prove that this was a first
time 14th day-light killing of the Passover lambs, the limited
killings for the "not clean" people by the Levites could well
have taken place in the evening of the beginning of the 14th, as
was the instruction of the Lord from the first Passover of Exodus
12. 

     What this passage does record is a first recording of some
Passover lambs being killed by Temple workers at the Temple in
Jerusalem, sometime on the 14th day of the second month.

     It may well have been used by the yet to arise Pharisee sect
to justify their practice of a 14th afternoon killing of Passover
lambs in the Temple by the Priesthood, a tradition and practice
that became to them akin to a written law of God, but which in
reality has no written law of God to give it support.
     What God allows to some degree for ONE specific situation as
this one under the religious revival by Hezekiah, does not
nullify or replace the bottom line ground commandments of how to
observe the Passover for the Old Covenant on a normal every year
cycle, under normal religious life within the written laws of the

Lord. 
     Any people who take "exceptions to the rule" as God allows
from time to time, and makes them the rule, has cast aside the
basic laws of God, to establish traditions of their own in
place of the commandments of God. This the Pharisee sect of later
times were profuse at doing, and so the words of Christ in Mark
7:7
     
     What was allowed here by God in this specific Passover was
allowed under a religious revival, and those in charge inquired
of the Lord if He would allow it. The differences here from
the written laws of God concerning Passover observance was
allowed by the Lord for THAT one time situation. It was never
intended by the Lord to surpass and replace, on a yearly
practice, His already written laws of Passover and Feast of
Unleavened Bread observance.  You will notice that the whole
assembly took counsel to observe another 7 days of UB after the
original 7 days (verse 23). God allowed this, but never intended
that His law would now, from that time forward, mean there would
be 14 days of UB feast. Not even the Pharisee Jews practice such
a thing as a 14 day feast of UB.
     Actually to get specific, as in the written laws of God
given under Moses, the Lord only allowed for a keeping of a
SECOND Passover in the second month, if not being able to observe
it in the first month for some situation beyond your control. He
never allowed for a second UB feast in the second month. If you
missed that feast, you just had to wait until the following year
to observe it. The same actually for all the other Feasts of God,
only the Passover could you have a second chance to observe in
the same year.

     So, there are a number of things about this Passover and
Feast of UB in the days of revival under Hezekiah, that are
different, unusual, and only for that one time, that God allowed,
for that one time only situation.

                      JOSIAH'S PASSOVER    

     After the death of Hezekiah, the people of Judah once more
fell into pagan idolatry. It was this way when young king Josiah
took the throne being at the very tender age of 8 years old
(2 Chronicles 34:1).
     In the 12th year of his reign (making him 20 years old)
Josiah began to purge Judah and Jerusalem (even into some of the
land of Israel) from the false pagan worship places the people
had built to worship the many false gods of the nations around
them (verses 3-7). It took him another 6 years before the land
was fully cleansed from false god influence (verse 8).

     The king wanted the House of God restored, cleaned and
polished up so to speak. In doing that work they found the book
of the law as given by God through Moses. 
     Word was brought to the king that God intended to punish
Judah for all their backsliding and sins, but because Josiah's
heart was like that of his famous father king David, right and
correct towards the Lord, all the curses and punishment to befall
Judah would not happen in king Josiah's life time (verses 14-28).

     The king went to up into the House of the Lord in complete
humility. He, with his example and influence brought about a
mighty repentance in the land of Judah, and those left in

Israel. He took away all the abominations that the Lord hated,
and he and all the people served God all the days of his life
(verses 29-33).

     Now, we come to chapter 35. Here it is recorded that Josiah
kept "A Passover, unto the Lord" (verse 1).
     It was a ONE TIME Passover celebration, not something done
year after year. The context with all that is written concerning
THAT Passover should make it clear that it was just a one
time event. Note verse 18. No Passover from the days of Samuel
had been observed like that undertaken by Josiah. It was even
greater than the Passover we have looked at above under the
reign of king Hezekiah.

     This section of Scripture is a little hard to follow because
of its details with specific numbers of animals given by the king
and others for sacrifice in this Passover feast celebration.
The number of animals sacrificed in total, would seem to indicate
that we are looking at a sacrificing that took place over not
only the Passover day but the 7 days of the feast of Unleavened
Bread (see verses 16, 17).
     
     To be sure, the amount of sacrificing for the Passover
sacrifice itself (from the flock, lambs and kids (verse 7), as
well as other sacrifices according to the laws of Moses, was so
great that this is one of the reasons it is written that no
Passover was like it since the days of Samuel.
     One thing is plain, the killing of all these sacrifices
(Passover lambs and other sacrifices) WAS PERFORMED by the
Priests and the Levites WITHIN the House or Temple of God.
     We are told in verse one that the Passover was killed on the
14th day of the first month. The context shows this Passover in
many ways was different again from the Passover conducted by king
Hezekiah. The sacrificing in every way was much greater. It was
ALL done by the Priesthood and the Levites in the Temple. Did
they start in the evening of the 14th, the beginning of the 14th
day?  Was it all completed for the Passover sacrificing in that
evening and night of the 14th?  Maybe it was possible if they
decided to continue on into the late night, but making sure that
nothing remained until the morning (as is written in Exodus 12).
Then again, this was an unusual and different Passover, one that
had never been the like since the days of Samuel. And the king's
commands entered the picture (verse 16).

     It is possible indeed that within the context of all this
description of this most great and unusual Passover, that the
king's command in having all these sacrifices done by the workers
in the Temple, left no choice but to continue sacrificing not
only on the evening of the 14th, but in the morning and in the
afternoon of the 14th as well.
     I see no difficulty in imagining that that would have been
the case. I am open to believe that in this particular situation
that most of the entire 24 hours in the 14th day was devoted to
sacrificing in the Temple for the Passover lambs and the other
sacrifices prescribed under the laws of Moses.
     
     This Passover was an "exception to the rule" in no uncertain
way. So much so was it an exception to the rule that it is

clearly told us that no Passover was ever like it from the days
of Samuel, and that no king of Israel had ever kept such a
Passover as that commanded by the king Josiah.

     Obviously, we are to take from this whole teaching and
written record that once more God allowed and gave His consent to
the king, to observe such a Passover as outlined in this 35th
chapter of 2 Chronicles.
     Yet as I have stated above, what is allowed by God under a
specific situation like a nation coming to collective repentance,
and showing forth that repentance and rededication to the true
ways of the Lord, at a most opportune time such as the Passover
and days of Unleavened Bread, does NOT mean God is re-vamping His
normal laws of observing the Passover, as written in His
law under the Old Covenant.
     To be sure, there is no written record in the Word of God or
in Jewish written records of history that show Josiah's great and
unusual Passover became the accepted norm of practice each year,
from that time forward. In fact the context here of chapter 35
would prove just the opposite. This was a one time only
observance of a Passover that was so different in many
respects from what God originally commanded and intended in
Passover observance, that it is stated to have been such. And if
sacrificing continued through nearly all the hours of the 14th,
then such a special, unusual, and great Passover as this one,
could certainly include an all day performing of sacrifices, be
it Passover lambs and other types of sacrifices.

     Once more we need to understand as the writer of Chronicles
gives us in no uncertain manner, this was not a normal Passover
celebration, and many things were done that were exceptions to
the basic rules of the Lord for Passover observance, but which
for that time and situation of a nation coming to full
repentance, God allowed and accepted.

                     PASSOVER UNDER EZRA

     The Lord brought about His word. Judah was punished for
their sins with a 70 year captivity in the land of Babylon.
     Then under Ezra and Nehemiah the Jews were restored to their
homeland and Jerusalem and the Temple were rebuilt.
     The time of the finishing of the rebuilding and dedicating
of the Temple is given to us in Ezra chapter 6 and verses 15-18.
     It was once more a very special time. The circumstances and
historical setting of the books of Ezra and Nehemiah clearly show
this to be the case. We are told in Ezra 6:19 that the children
of Israel kept the Passover on the 14th day of the first month.
Once more the context here does NOT prove this was a killing of
the Passover lambs on the afternoon of the 14th. 
     What is clear is that it is written that the Priests and the
Levites killed the Passover lambs for the children of the
captivity that had returned to Jerusalem and for themselves.
Other parts of the books of Ezra and Nehemiah tell us how many
had returned from Babylon to Jerusalem, and it was not a great
number at all, only a little more than 40,000. Following the law
of Exodus 12:4 concerning the number of people for each lamb,
there would not have been that many lambs to have been slain by

the Priests and Levites for this Passover observance under Ezra.
The killing of the lambs could have all been done within the
evening and early night of the beginning of the 14th, especially
if they were going to make this an all night Passover and making
sure nothing was left until the morning, as given in Exodus 12.
     
     It was a unique time and a special Passover for the children
of Judah under Ezra. Once more the main thing told us for our
observation is that the killing of the Passover lambs was done by
the Priests and Levites. Such a statement is telling us that such
a killing of the Passover lambs was not the norm, but a specific
exception to the normal rule of Passover observance.  The normal
rule and laws of God for Passover observance under the Old
Covenant I have presented in other in-depth studies on this
subject.

                   HERE COME THE PHARISEES

     It was after the days of Ezra that the Pharisee sect really
began to gain strength and popularity among the common people.
They became the religious denomination of the local towns and
villages. They were the sect that ran the local town synagogues.
The Sadducee religious sect were the Priests of the Temple. Both
had their religious theology views and teachings. And on some
theology issues they disagreed with each other in no uncertain
ways.
     Such was the case with WHEN the Passover lambs should be
slain. The Sadducees said that the phrase "between the two
evenings" of Exodus 12 and elsewhere, meant sunset or between
sunset and dark, what we call "dusk" or "twilight."  The
Pharisees said it meant from 12 noon to sunset.
     The Pharisees were also very ritualistic. Some where in
Jewish history after the days of Ezra and the return of the Jews
form Babylon to Jerusalem (we have no written record of when
exactly it all formulated) the Pharisees' theology on Passover
observance was formed and put into practice. Together with their
teaching of the meaning of the phrase "between the two evenings"
and their ritualistic fanaticism they formulated that the
Passover lambs should be slain in the Temple by the Priesthood
and Levites on the afternoon of the 14th day of the first month,
from about 1 p.m. to sunset. Many have mistakenly thought they
started at 3 p.m. but on Passover day they moved up the evening
sacrifice to noon so they could have more time to kill Passover
lambs, starting about 1 p.m. 

     They may have seen the few examples, the few exceptions to
the norm, that we have studied above, and with their false
understanding (and I have before in other studies clearly
proven from the Bible, the Pharisees were incorrect on their
understanding of what "between the two evenings" meant, while in
fact the Sadducees had understood it correctly. Sometimes one or
the other understood a truth while the other did not) of what the
phrase "between the two evenings" meant, they had formulated the
idea that the Passover had always been killed by the Priesthood
in the Tabernacle or in later times in the Temple, on the
afternoon of the 14th day, then eaten that evening, on into the
15th Sabbath day of the feast of Unleavened Bread. Hence in their

teaching and practice the two festivals merged into one, as it is
still practiced to this very day by most of Judaism.

     Whenever it all came about in past history, by the time of
Christ, that theology teaching and practice of the Pharisee
observance of the Passover was firmly established. They had
gained so much popular support by the common people that they had
enough power to force the Sadducean Priests of the Temple to
comply with all their Temple ritualistic beliefs and wishes
in what they wanted done in the Temple, on the days they wanted
it done.

     Did Jesus follow and comply with the teachings and practices
of the Pharisees when they were NOT according to the Word of the
Lord?  NOT FOR ONE SECOND!!
     Jesus' only foundation that He stood on was the foundation
of the truth of God's Word (John 17:17). Whatever others taught,
individually or as an organization, if it did not line up with
the truth of the word of God, He cast away as chaff in the wind.
It made no difference who was teaching or saying it, if it was
incorrect it was the leaven of sin and deception.
     Notice what Jesus said about such doctrinal errors of the
two famous Jewish sects of His day, the Sadducees and the
Pharisees. It is found in Matthew 16 and verses 6 to 12. Jesus
tells His disciples to BEWARE of the LEAVEN of the Pharisees and
the Sadducees. At first the disciples did not get the picture,
did not understand what Jesus was getting at. Then they did
finally see the light of what Jesus was teaching them.
     "Then understood they how that He bade them not beware of
the leaven of bread, but of the DOCTRINE of the Pharisees and of
the Sadducees" (verse 12).
     Not everything taught by these two religious sects were in
error. No religious sect is ever in full error on everything they
teach, it is a mixture of truth and error, otherwise they would
gain no following in matters of people wanting to serve God.
Jesus was here telling His disciples that the errors and false
doctrines of the Pharisees and Sadducees were so large, so many,
so deceptive in the overall of "religion" towards God that they
had better be VERY CAREFUL with the doctrines proclaimed by these
two prominent Jewish sects.
     At another time Jesus laid it on the line in no uncertain
way with the Scribes and the Pharisees. We find Jesus' clear and
cutting words recorded for us in Mark 7: 6- 9.

     "He answered and said to them, Well has Isaiah prophesied of
you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honors me with
their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain
do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of
men. For laying aside the commandments of God, you hold the
traditions of me......Full well you reject the commandments
of God, that you may keep your own traditions."

     The truth of God on this Passover subject can be understood,
the truth of it all is in the pages of the Bible. But you must
put Scripture with Scripture, search the Scriptures, let the
Scriptures interpret themselves. If you do all that, you can know
the truth as opposed to the traditions of men.
                 ..........................

 

Written April 2001


BREAD AND WINE

                      HOW OFTEN SHOULD 
                       WE OBSERVE IT? 


   There are FEW church organizations that observe the so-called
"Lord's Supper" in the same manner or at the same time.  Some
believe in practicing the "foot washing" as part of the overall
observance, others do not. Some only use alcohol wine, while
others use only grape juice. There are church groups that use
"unleavened bread" but others use regular puffed up bread.  There
is even more variations and opinions as to how OFTEN this sacred
service is to be observed.

   This article will only concern the last question, as to "How
Often?" 

   Paul was inspired to write in 1 Corinthians that God is NOT
the author of  confusion!

   Jesus said that God's WORD is truth (John 17:17).  Let is
humbly and diligently search the word of the Eternal for the
truth on the Passover or Lord's Supper service and how often we
should partake of it in any given year.

   Some churches take this ceremony once a week; some once a
month; some four times a year; some twice a year, and a few only
once a year in the evening.  Jude, in the latter half of the
first century A.D. found it needful to write that "........You
should earnestly contend for the faith once delivered unto the
saints" (Jude 3).

   If the first century Christians were beginning to wander away
from the original practices of Jesus and the early disciples, how
much do you suppose we today have departed from those original
teachings?  For us to get back to the faith once delivered
we must put aside our assumptions and traditions, and with open
minds "search the Scriptures daily" as those at Berea did when
Paul preached to them (Acts 17:10-12).  The Scriptures contain
the TRUTH - the true record of what was once delivered to the
saints.

                    THE FIRST OBSERVANCE

   It is written that Jesus set us an example that we should
follow His steps (1 Peter 2:21). A person who looks to and
follows the way of Jesus Christ is called a Christian -
one who follows Christ. It is written that Jesus now comes and
lives His life over again WITHIN the Christian (Gal.2:20) - by
the faith OF Christ, not just faith IN Christ. The same practices
and customs Jesus observed nearly 2,000 years ago, He will still
practice and observe today as He lives in the Christian.
   Let us examine the passage showing the institution of the NT
Passover service and symbols - commonly called by many "The
Lord's Supper."

   Luke 22:14, 19-20.  "And when the HOUR was COME, He(Jesus) sat
down, and the twelve apostles with Him.....And He took bread, and
gave thanks, and broke it, and gave unto them, saying: This is my
body which is given for you. THIS DO in REMEMBRANCE of
me.....Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This is the
New Testament in my blood, which is shed for you."

   Notice, Jesus introduced the bread and wine (fruit of the vine
- cup) "when the hour was come." There was a DEFINITE TIME - when
He held this supper, setting us the perfect example. He commanded
them to observe it, "THIS DO....."  And why?  "In remembrance of
me," He said.  It was a MEMORIAL - in memory of His death. Jesus
instituted this ordinance on the night, the eve of His death.  We
are to observe this ceremony of Christ's death, as He Himself
said, "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down
his life for his friends." Jesus knew that upon this day - the
day He was instituting the symbols of bread and wine for His
broken body and shed blood - He would die.  And Jesus further
said, "You are my friends IF you DO whatsoever I command
you....." (John 15:13-14).

   In Matthew 26:26 we read: "And as they were eating, Jesus took
bread."  It was "as they were eating" that He introduced this
ordinance of the NT.  But eating what?  Eating the PASSOVER!  See
verse 17 and Luke 22:15. Notice Mat.26:2, "You know that after
two days is the Feast of the Passover, and the Son of man is
betrayed to be crucified." Jesus knew His time to be slain had
come. He knew the Passover lamb represented HIM - the true lamb
of God (John 1:29).

   The apostle Paul understood that the real Passover lamb was
Christ, when he wrote: ".....even Christ OUR PASSOVER is
sacrificed for us" (1 Cor.5:7).

   Jesus was eating the Passover, "Now the first of the unleavens
(original Greek. The Jews had by the time of Christ acquired the
custom of putting leaven out of their homes on the 14th day of
Nisan, and by late morning ate no more leavened bread, at least
those who followed the Pharisees practiced this tradition), and
the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto Him, Where will you that
we prepare for you to eat the Passover?" (Mat.26:7).  At EVEN
Jesus sat down (when the hour was come) with His twelve disciples
in an upper room (Mat.26:20; Mark 14:15).
   And as they were eating the Passover supper (Mat.26:26),
"Jesus took bread and blessed it, and broke it, and gave it to
the disciples, and said: Take, eat, this is my body. And He took
the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying: Drink you
all of it; for this is my blood of the New Testament, which is
shed for the remission of sins."

   It was the night of the last Passover supper that Jesus kept
and He introduced the NT Passover service and symbols.

                 THE OLD TESTAMENT ORDINANCE

   The original Passover marked the Exodus of the Israelites from
Egypt. You will find the events recorded in the 12th chapter of
the book of Exodus.

   On the 10th day of the first month (Abib or Nisan chap.13:4)
they were told to take a young lamb without spot or blemish. This
lamb was to be kept UNTIL the 14th day of this first month, when
they were to kill it "in the evening" (verse 6).
   As soon as it was killed, the blood was to be sprinkled over
the door posts of their houses. The lamb was to be roasted and
eaten in haste - with their shoes on - ready to move out quickly.
At midnight that night of the 14th (no other day is yet mentioned
in the context, so it is still the 14th) the death angel passed
through the land, striking dead the firstborn of each family in
all the land of Egypt. But those under the blood of the lamb
were saved from death. And God brought - delivered - them from
the Egyptian bondage that night of the 14th. Compare these
passages - Ex.12:7-14; Num.33:3; Deut.16:1-3; Lev.23:6.

   The Israelites were delivered from bondage on the 14th - the
death angel passing through the land that NIGHT of the 14th.
Israel left Rameses on the 15th, the morrow AFTER the Passover
had been slain, by NIGHT. This day of the 15th was to be a
memorial day - the feast day - a holy day (Ex.12:14-17). And that
night of the 15th was a night to be "much observed unto the
Lord."
   The Passover lamb was slain on the 14th. The Israelites were
delivered on the 15th - starting the night of the 15th from
Rameses. This festival of the Passover (all eight days) - from
the 14th of Nisan to the 21st, was ordained to be observed
FOREVER (Ex.12:17,24), and in this case forever includes our time
today. The Jews certainly observe it.  It was to be a MEMORIAL of
deliverance - to be kept in its season, from year to year. Hence
observed ONCE a year only (Ex.13:9,10).

                            TYPE AND ANTI-TYPE

   The Paschal lamb was typical. As the Matthew Henry's Bible
Commentary notes:

"   Christ is our Passover - 1 Cor.5:7
(1) It was to be a LAMB; and Christ is the lamb of God (John
1:29). 
(2) It  was to be a MALE of the first year (vs.5) in its prime.
Christ offered up Himself in the midst of His days.
(3) It was to be without BLEMISH (vs.5) denoting the purity of
the Lord Jesus -  a Lamb without SPOT (1 Pet.1:19).
(4) It was to be set apart FOUR days before (vs.3,6).....It is
very observable that, as Christ was crucified at the Passover, so
He solemly entered into Jerusalem four days before - the very day
the paschal lamb was set apart.
(5) It was to be SLAIN, and ROASTED WITH FIRE (vs.....6-9),
denoting the extreme sufferings of the Lord Jesus, even unto
death. The wrath of God is as fire, and Christ was made a curse
for us.
(6) It was to be killed by the whole congregation between the two
evenings......Christ suffered at the END of the world (Heb.9:26)
by the hand of the Jews - the whole multitude of them (Luke
23:18) and for all His spiritual Israel.
(7) Not a bone of it must be BROKEN (vs.46) - which is expressly
said to be fulfilled in Christ (John 19:33,36)" (emphasis mine).

   Notice again points number 4 and 6 made by the commentary.
Many Bible chronologers (i.e. the Chronological Bible by Edward
Reese) have seen that a harmony of the Gospels clearly shows
Jesus entering on a stay in Jerusalem and area FOUR days prior to
His death, and that He died on the 14th of Nisan at around the
ninth hour (3 to 4 p.m.)
   God had foreshadowed the events of Jesus' last days, and
especially the last 24 hours, centuries earlier by means of the
Passover lamb. God was able, and He did fulfil them.  For those
interested in the chronology of Jesus last 24 hours I have a full
in-depth study on that subject that I can send e-mail to those
who request it. Some teach that all the events must have taken
more than 24 hours. My artcile answers their arguments.

                        JESUS' EXAMPLE

   Throughout His life and ministry Jesus observed the Passover
(Luke 2:41-42; John 2:13,23;  6:4;  Mat.26:1-2, 17-20). He kept
it ONCE a year - on the 14th of Nisan. Jesus knew it pictured His
suffering and death (Mat.26:1-2).
   On the NIGHT of the 14th, early evening - He sat down with His
disciples to observe the Passover meal. During this supper Jesus
introduced the symbols of the BREAD and the FRUIT OF THE VINE. He
did not abolish the Passover but merely CHANGED the symbols from
the roast lamb to bread and wine. He said to His disciples, "This
do, in remembrance of me." Jesus did this ON the 14th - on the
SAME day the Passover lamb had been slain in that first Passover
observance as recorded in Exodus 12, in the BEGINNING or EVENING
of the 14th. He thereby set us an example (1 Peter 2:21). Can
His disciples today do any more or any less? Surely the example
of Christ Himself is teaching material enough.
   The Old Testament Passover was to be observed just once a year
- on the 14th of Nisan. Jesus did not, either by word or example,
change the day or the number of times in a year to remember His
death.

                  THE ORDINANCE OF HUMILITY

   In giving us the account of the institution of the NT Passover
ordinance, Matthew, Mark and Luke describe the taking of the
bread and cup. But John relates another part of this ordinance.
It is found in the 13th chapter of John. Verse one shows the
event of the last Passover observed by Christ. And "during
supper" (which is a more accurate rendering of the Greek, see the
Interlinear by Berry and other translations), verse 2.
Jesus took a towel (verse 4) and began washing His disciples'
feet (verse 5). They had already bathed (verse 10 - Fenton
translation); they were already clean, including the feet.
Why then, did Jesus do this foot washing?
   
   "So after He had washed their feet and had taken His garments
and was set down again, He said unto them, Know you what I have
done unto you? You call me master and Lord: and you say well; for
so I am. If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet;
you ALSO OUGHT TO WASH ONE ANOTHER'S FEET. For I have given you
an EXAMPLE that YOU SHOULD DO AS I HAVE DONE TO YOU" (verses
12-15).

   This ordinance of footwashing is an ordinance of HUMILITY.  It
was the lowest servant of the household who, in Jesus' day, was
given the job of washing the dusty feet of the guests.  Some say
this command of Jesus was only to the disciples of His day, and
not to us today.  But they will admit it was a command to them. 
Turn to Matthew 28:19,20.  "Go you, therefore," Jesus told those
disciples, "and teach all nations, baptizing them......teaching
them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded YOU."

   So they were to teach US to observe all things He commanded
them. Washing each other's feet at the Passover time was one of
those commands, and one of those examples of Jesus we are to
follow. 
   Even with what is taught by such clear verses, some will still
argue up and down that we do not have to wash any feet today. I
answer in detail those arguments in another article devoted to
that specific topic. It can be sent e-mail to those who request
it.

                  DO AS OFTEN AS YOU WISH?

   Paul gives directions regarding the NT Passover service in the
11th chapter of 1 Corinthians. Some have interpreted verse 26
which says, "As often as you eat this bread and drink this cup"
to say - "Take it as often, as many times as you like." But is
that what Paul meant to say?
   Read the CONTEXT. In verse 23, Paul says that what he received
from Christ he delivered to the Corinthians, that "......the Lord
Jesus the same NIGHT in which He was betrayed (14th of Nisan)
took bread."  Jesus, as has been seen, introduced the symbols
of bread and wine. He told His disciples "this do" in remembrance
of Him. In the original Greek there is the definite article "the"
so the phrase could read "this do in THE remembrance of me."
   Now, what was the remembrance or MEMORIAL of Christ's death?
Why the PASSOVER - held on the 14th day of the first month of
Abib or Nisan, the day the Passover lamb was slain.

   Many nations observe a "Remembrance Day" for all who died in
the last two world wars. Many people observe a MEMORIAL of their
wedding or someone's birthday. How often do they observe these
remembrance days? Only ONCE a year!  A wedding, birthday, or
death, is remembered in a special way usually ON THE DAY it
occurred.  We show or remember the Lord's death by partaking of
the bread and wine on the VERY DAY - the very NIGHT that Jesus
did, when He told us "this do."  We remember Christ's death
through this ordinance often called the "communion service" by
some as we follow His example of partaking of it on the NIGHT and
the day of the 14th of Nisan in the Hebrew calendar.

   By following His example and observing this sacred ordinance
at the same time He did, we do continue to REMEMBER His death
annually, on the very anniversary of His crucifixion.  It is the
most solemn but yet joyful occasion of the year, especially when
observed at this correct hour and day.
   
   Paul is telling the people at Corinth that as OFTEN as this
REMEMBRANCE NIGHT is observed - year after year - decade after
decade - down through the centuries and ages - we do show, we
remember by this NT ordinance - the Lord's death till He returns
again (verse 26).

                     TAKING UNWORTHILY?

   Many have worried about Paul's statement in 1 Cor.11:29
concerning eating and drinking UNWORTHILY and so do not partake
of it.  But truly we are ALL unworthy of and by ourselves of
Christ's love for us in taking our sins upon Himself and dying
for us. So is Paul saying here that UNTIL somehow we FEEL we are
worthy, we are not to partake of this ordinance?  NO!  For in
verse 28 Paul has just said we are to examine ourselves,
"AND SO LET HIM EAT......AND DRINK......."  Jesus said, as we
have seen, "this do."  He commanded His followers to partake of
the symbols of His broken body and shed blood.
   This verse is not speaking about a Christian being in some
technical way worthy or unworthy (actually all repentant
Christians are sinless because the blood of Christ has blotted
them out, so they are righteous and worthy), to take this
ordinance.  It IS speaking about EXAMINING oneself - getting in
the right attitude and frame of mind for this special time and
day of the year.
   It is also speaking of the MANNER in which we do it. To take
it unworthily is to take it in a wrong manner. Notice what the
Corinthians had done on this special night - verses 20 to 22.
They had a big "bash" as we would say today. They had much food,
some of them; while others were left out of the party, and had
none or very little. Some got DRUNK on the wine.  Paul is
correcting them for the WRONG MANNER in which they were observing
this sacred ordinance.
   
   In connection with the wrong manner, it is worth noting that
had the ancient Israelites in Egypt observed the first Passover
at any other time or day other than when appointed by God they
would have done it unworthily and suffered the plague along with
the Egyptians. This is not to say that people today who do not
know any better or have not had this truth of the word of God
revealed to them, will be smitten down in some way if they do
observe this NT service at some other time than on the night of
the 14th of Nisan. God is very merciful during this age of the
Gospel. But when truth and light is revealed the Eternal expects
that person to walk in it, and to refuse or ignore it could
place that individual on spiritually dangerous ground.

   Once truth has come to us on this matter, it could be unworthy
for us to partake of this ceremony at any other time than set
down by God in His Holy Word, we could be partaking of it in a
wrong manner.  The Greek here is a VERB - an action word - a
doing word.  Certainly the Corinthians were doing things in
actions that were wrong on this remembrance night as they thought
they were remembering the Lord's death. 
   Being in a wrong attitude of mind could also come under an
action of wrong manner, so that is why Jesus inspired Paul to
say, "But let a man(person) EXAMINE himself and SO LET HIM
EAT....."
   I also have an article on examining ourselves before we come
to partake of this service, it also can be e-mailed to anyone
requesting it.

             "BREAK BREAD" - WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

   Some turn to Acts 20:7, "And upon the first day of the week,
when the disciples came together to break bread....." and say
this shows the "communion" - "Lord's Supper" - was observed every
Sunday.  But notice, nothing is said about taking "the cup" or
fruit of the vine. Surely if this was intended to be written to
show that the NT symbols of bread and wine were to be observed
every week, it would be more explicit; especially when one
considers the fact that it would have been a NEW custom for both
the Jewish and Gentile Christians.  If the question of
circumcision gave rise to a conference on the matter at
Jerusalem (Acts 15), the question of WHEN and HOW OFTEN the death
of Jesus should be commemorated and remembered in a specific way
would not have been a less issue. But we find no such issue
arising in the early Church of God.

   Let's examine the context of Acts 20:7. Notice verse 6. This
was just AFTER the Days of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover
would have already taken place. Paul was holding a farewell
meeting at Troad, ready to depart at sunrise the next day. When
was Paul preaching? It was NOT Sunday morning but what we would
call Saturday night.
It was between sunset of the first day of the week and midnight
(verse 7) and many LIGHTS were burning (verse 8). They were all
getting hungry. And after they had "broken bread and EATEN" Paul
went on his journey (verse 11). THIS BREAD BREAKING WAS EATING A
COMMON MEAL.

   The words "break bread" are used in many places to refer to a
plain meal. Notice Acts 27:34,35, "Wherefore I pray you to take
some meat(food). He took bread......and when he had BROKEN IT he
began to EAT......"  notice also Acts 2:46, ".....And breaking
bread from house to house, did eat their meat(food) with
gladness."  Here they were breaking bread DAILY, eating food or
meals; and Paul says we are not to eat the Lord's Supper to
satisfy hunger (1 Cor.11:34).  Then notice Matthew 26:29. Jesus
said He would not again take the NT Passover until after His
coming in His Kingdom. Yet later, as He sat "at meat," eating a
meal, He BROKE bread and blessed it (Luke 24:30).
   They did not have sliced packaged bread in the first century
A.D. The bread was often BROKEN apart with the hands. "Break
bread" was a term for having a meal.

             THE EARLY CHURCH KEPT THE PASSOVER

   Christianity has a Jewish background. Jesus Christ was a Jew,
of the house of Judah (Heb.7:14). Paul, Peter, James, John and
others were all of the house of Judah, though maybe not of the
tribe of Judah. Christianity began with Jewish people. As the
Gentiles entered the Church they became part of spiritual Israel
- spiritual Jews. There is NO DIFFERENCE between Jew and Gentile
- all become ONE in Christ (Rom.2:28-29; Eph.2:12-22). All are to
worship God in the SAME MANNER - in SPIRIT and in TRUTH (John
4:24).
   What about the Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread
festival?  Are Gentiles to observe as some call them, "those
Jewish festivals"?  Did the Jewish Christians continue to keep
them? Did the Gentile converts in the apostolic Church observe
the festivals of Israel, as given by God in Leviticus chapter 23?
   Paul, writing to the predominately Gentile congregation at
Corinth, admonishes them to, "Purge out therefore the old leaven
that you may be a new lump, AS YOU ARE UNLEAVENED. For even
Christ our PASSOVER is sacrificed for us. Therefore let us
KEEP (Greek in the present continuous tense) the FEAST" 
(1 Cor.5:7,8).
   Paul is admonishing the NT Christians to CONTINUE keeping the
Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread - but with the spirit of
true Christianity - in sincerity and truth. He wanted them to
observe the festival not only in a literal way but in the way the
festival portrays SPIRITUALLY, remembering Christ's DEATH for our
sins and PUTTING AWAY sin (leaven is a type of) from our lives
(hence to unleaven us) as we physically unleaven our homes in a
physical type teaching and lesson for our spiritual lives.

   The authors of "The Life and Epistles of St. Paul" - Conybeare
and Howson, have this to say on these verses:

" In spite of the opinion of some, we must adhere to the
interpretation which considers these words as written at the
Paschal season, and suggested by it. The words LEAVEN, LUMP,
PASCHAL LAMB and FEAST all agree most naturally with this
view......It has been object that St. Paul would not address the
Corinthians as engaged in a feast which he, at Ephesus, was
celebrating, because it would be over before his letter could
reach them. Anyone who has ever written a birthday letter to a
friend in India will see the weakness of this objection. If we
take 'as you are unleavened' in a metaphorical sense, it is
scarcely consistent with the previous 'cast out the old leaven';
for the passage would then amount to saying, 'Be you free from
leaven (metaphorically) as you are free from leaven
(metaphorically)'; whereas, on the other hand, St.Paul says,
'Be free from leaven (metaphorically) as you are free from leaven
(literally).'  There seems to be no difficulty in supposing that
the Gentile Christians joined with the Jewish Christians in
celebrating the Paschal feast after the Jewishmanner, at least to
the extent of abstaining from leaven in the love feast. And we
see St. Paul still observing the 'days of unleavened bread' at
this period of his life, from Acts 20:6......" (pages 389, 390,
emphasis mine).

   The Passover and Days of Unleavened Bread were still being
observed by Paul and the Jew-Gentile Christians of the first
century A.D. The Holy Spirit inspired those words in Acts 12:3,
"Then were the days of unleavened bread."  Notice also verse 4. 
The word "Easter" is a mistranslation. The Greek word is "Pascha"
(which means Passover). See any Greek lexicon. 
   Contrary to many views the passage in Col.2:16 is one of the
STRONGEST proofs in the entire NT that Christians of the first
century A.D. continued to observe the annual, monthly, and weekly
festivals as given by the Eternal in the law and books of Moses.
A study of Col.2:16 can be e-mailed to those who request it.

               THE TESTIMONY OF CHURCH HISTORY

   That the early Church continued to remember the DEATH of
Christ on the 14th of Nisan is confirmed by the writers of the
second century. Polycarp (of Asia Minor) - a disciple of John the
apostle, travelled to Rome to try to persuade the bishop of Rome
to observe the 14th of Nisan as opposed to "Easter."  Polycrates
later in the 2nd century also contended with the Roman church in
favor of the 14th of the first month, Jewish calendar.  This 14th
of Nisan/Easter controversy became known in Church History as the
"QUARTODECIMAN controversy." 
   You can read all about it in the Catholic Encyclopedia at your
public library, under the articles, "Quartodeciman" - "Easter" -
"Polycarp" - "Polycrates."
   The TRUTH on this subject as to HOW often to observe the bread
and fruit of the vine symbols of the death of Christ can be found
and understood as this article explains, if you are willing to
search the Scriptures daily, and really do hunger and thirst for
righteousness and have a love of the truth.  

   May the Eternal grant you such an attitude as to want to
understand His will on this matter.
              ................................  


Written first 1980
re-written and revised in March 1998
by

                                                                     Keith Hunt 

 





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