Saturday, August 5, 2023

THROUGH THE BIBLE—- CHRISTIANS AND WINE #3

 Christians and Wine? #5

What God teaches and allows



THE GREEK WORD "OINOS"


by

Keith Hunt



Despite the fancy foot work used by Mr. Saunders in saying, 

"...the Greek word 'oinos' translated 'wine' was a composite

word, sometimes meaning fermented wine and sometimes

unfermented.." the use of this word in the NT would show that

it clearly means fermented wine and never unfermented grape

juice, at least as used by the writers of the NT. Paul said, "be

not drunk with OINOS" (Eph.5:18). "not given to (or addicted to)

OINOS" (1 Tim.3:3). "not given to much OINOS" (1 Tim.3:8).   

Jesus turned water into OINOS (John 2:1-11), etc.


But Mr. Saunders says NO! And he tries to prove that 'oinos' can

mean unfermented grape juice by referring you to Luke 5:37.He

writes, "This is an example of 'oinos' meaning 'new wine' ... Now

we have already proven 'new wine' to mean fresh juice before

fermentation sets in. Further proof: How would fermented wine

burst the wine skins? Fermentation has already taken place. But

if grape juice were put into 'old wine skins' it would cause

fermentation, thereby bursting the wine skins!" (page 21 "Should

Christians Drink Fermented Wine" ).


FIRST. Does 'new wine' mean fresh juice before fermentation sets

in? Turn to Acts the second chapter - read verses one to thirteen

- especially notice verse 13. It should be obvious, many people

on that day of Pentecost when seeing what was happening to the

disciples and what they were doing, thought the disciples were

DRUNK on 'new wine.' Actually the Greek for 'new wine' in Acts

2:13 is GLEUKOS whereas the Greek for 'new wine' in Luke 5:37 is

'new OINOS.'


SECOND. When we understand the process of how wine was made in

Palestine, we can understand this analogy Jesus was using and

that the oinos being related to was indeed fermented, but still

fermenting. It would seem Mr.Saunders either did not know this

information or was not willing to give it, as it would destroy

his argument. You can find it in past studies on this topic under

"Fermentation." But I will take the space here to quote it again:

"In the climate of Palestine fermentation begins almost

immediately, frequently on the same day for juice pressed out in

the morning, but never later than the next day. At first a slight

foam appears on the surface of the liquid ... The action rapidly

becomes more violent, and while it is in progress the liquid must

be kept in JARS or in a VAT, for it would burst even the newest

and strongest of wine skins (Job 32:19 ). Within about a week

this VIOLENT FERMENTATION subsides, and the wine is TRANSFERRED

to other jars or STRONG WINE - SKINS (Mk 2:22), in which it

undergoes the SECONDARY FERMENTATION..."(emphasis mine).


So do you see how the new OINOS was wine that had gone through

the first violent stage of fermentation and was now being put

into strong new wine skins to undergo the secondary stage of

fermentation.It was at the end of 40 days that it was regarded as

properly "wine" and could be offered as a drink offering. See 

"Fermentation" in past studies.


THE BEST WINE?


In the account of Jesus attending a marriage feast as recorded by

John (ch.2:1-11), we see Him turning water into wine and the

governor of the feast calling this "the good wine" or the "best

wine" (v.10). Mr.Saunders would have us believe that this "best

wine" was unfermented GRAPE juice. He quotes from the ROMAN

writer Pliny as proof that Jesus turned water into grape juice

and not fermented wine. Pliny wrote, "Fresh grape juice, to make

it keep without fermenting, was boiled until it became thick,

like molasses, and in that form was stored away in large jars for

future use, to be eaten spread upon bread, or mixed and stirredup

in water to make a drink. When grape juice was boiled down to

one-third of its bulk to secure the finest flavor, it was called

'SAPA' (the BEST WINE)."


Mr. Saunders says, "This was unfermented wine, the 'best wine'

you could get. That's the kind Jesus made." (Should Christians

Drink Fermented Wine? page 19).


Let us look very carefully at this account of Jesus turning water

into wine. I want you to study attentively these comments by ADAM

CLARKE - the emphasis is his:


"...'But did not our Lord by this miracle minister to vice, by

producing an excess of inebriating liquor?' No; for the following

reasons: 1. The company was a select and holy company, where no

excess could be permitted. And, 2. Our Lord does not appear to

have furnished any EXTRA quantity, but only WHAT was necessary. 

But it is intimated in the text that the guests were NEARLY

INTOXICATED before this miraculous addition to their wine took

place; for the evangelist says, 'OTAN METHUSTHOOSI,' WHEN THEY

HAVE BECOME INTOXICATED. I answer: 1. It is not intimated, even

in the most indirect manner, that THESE guests were at all

intoxicated. 2. The words are not spoken of the persons at THAT

wedding at all: the governor of the feast only states that such

was the COMMON CUSTOM at feasts of this nature; without

intimating that any such custom prevailed there. 3. The original

word... signify not only to INEBRIATE, but to TAKE WINE, to DRINK

WINE, to DRINK ENOUGH: and in this sense the verb is evidently

used in the Septuagint, Gen.43:34; Cant.5:1; 1 Macc.16:16; Hag.

1:6; Ecclus.1:16..."(Clarke's Comm. Vol.3, p.527).


The basic word used in John 2:10 for "have well drunk"is METHUOO

it is a verb.

The verb is used of being intoxicated in Mat.24:49; Acts 2:15; 

1 Cor.11:21; 1 Thes.5:7b. (See Vine's Expository Dictionary of NT

Words,pages 331 and 333).


Using THE ANALYTICAL GREEK LEXICON in trasing the Greek word for

"have well drunk" we find that, Methusthoosi is from METHUSKOO

which is a verb meaning to inebriate, make drunk; to be

intoxicated, to drink freely. This word in turn is from METHUOO -

to be intoxicated, strong drink, be drunk. (See the above Lex.

page 261).


Do you see what we have found? I believe the KJV has a good

rendering with "have well drunk" for the word Methusthoosi, but

the very word itself in Greek refers to drinking well of an

intoxicating wine,a wine that will if drinking of it too well -

make you drunk! Now read again the above comment by Adam Clarke.


We will now turn our attention to the phrase "good wine" or 

"best wine ." The marriage feast Jesus was attending was a JEWISH

marriage not a Roman one. What the Roman Pliny had to say about

the phrase "best wine" as used by the Romans, MAY or MAY NOT be

the same as what the JEWS meant by this same phrase. Surely we

would be on safer ground to prove our point by knowing what the

Jews understood this to mean. I submit that "good wine" herein

used is the same as saying "old wine." Compare this section in

John with Luke 5:37-39. Now notice this comment by Adam Clarke on

Lk.5:39.


"...The OLD WINE, among the Rabbis, was THE WINE OF THREE LEAVES;

that is, wine three years old; because, from the time that the

vine had produced that wine, it had put forth its leaves three

times."


The Greek language has shown us that this "good wine" was

fermented - it was "old wine," about three years old, and was 

(as given in John) usually served FIRST at a Jewish marriage

feast. Then when the guests had well drunk of this fermented

OINOS (wine) the poorer, younger wine was served. But, as Adam

Clarke observed, "That which our Lord now made being perfectly

pure, and highly nutritive."


NOT OFFENDING PEOPLE?


To defend the teaching that a Christian should never drink an

alcoholic beverage, this argument is often put forth:

"But you may defend your drinking by saying, 'I have total

control of my drinking, I know when it's enough, and I can stop

at any time.' Well, that may, or may not be so. But, dear

commited Christian, according to Paul's exhortation, that is not

the criterion. Paul says you could cause a 'weak brother' to sin

(See 1 Cor.8:9-13; Rom.14:21) if he should follow your example

and become a drunkard. Here is another passage from Paul, the

apostle: 'All things are lawful for me, but all things are not

expedient, all things are lawful for me, but all things edify

not' (1 Cor.10:23).

I suggest this passage 'hits the nail on the head.' You see, we,

as free moral agents in a democratic society, have the privilege

of our own choices and doing as we wish, (except if we break a

law of our society. This would include drinking alcoholic

beverages under certain regulations), but, what Paul is saying is

that we are NOT FREE to do anything we wish. Paul continues,

'Let not one then seek his own good and advantage and profit, but

(rather let him seek the welfare of his neighbour) each one of

the other' (v.24, Amp. Ver.)"


The above was taken from "Should Christians Drink Fermented

Wine?" pages 16, 17.


The scriptures used in this argument are a part of the inspired

word of God. They are true and should be followed within the

scope of how Paul was meaning them. Was Paul meaning that a

Christian should NEVER at any time or place have a fermented

drink because some other Christian whom he did not know, had

never seen, and was not present, might be offended? Was Paul

saying that a Christian should NEVER at any time or place eat

meat, or food offered to an idol, because some other Christian

whom he had never seen, did not know, and was not present, might

be offended?

Let's take the logic of the above argument about not drinking

alcohol and apply it to some other things in life that some

people and some groups take as very important in being a

Christian.


Some large Christian organizations believe that MAKE-UP 

(lipstick, eye coloring etc.) is SIN - that a Christian woman

should not use such evil things. Now should another Christian

woman who is not a part of this belief and sees no evil in

makeup, not use makeup at all - never, because she may pass on

the street a Christian woman whom she knows not, but is from the

group that thinks makeup is evil? Many religious (and otherwise

people) are VEGETARIANS - some feel they have Biblical evidence

to uphold their 'no meat' diet. Now should another Christian who

does not hold such views, never at any time eat meat? Should he

never eat meat at home, at a friend's home, or at the restaurant,

incase another 'no meat' Christian that he does not know, has

never seen before, should come along and seeing him eat meat, be

offended? Some Christian organizations teach it is UN-Christian

to wear GOLD, PEARLS and costly apparel. Should the Christian who

does not hold such convictions, never at any time wear jewelry or

expensive clothes, because they may pass on the street or ride

next to on the bus, a 'no gold no pearls' Christian that they do

not know is a Christian holding such beliefs? There are some who

dress all in BLACK as they practice their Christianity, now am I

to do the same because I may walk by somewhere, one of these

individuals and I do not want to offend him? Can I never at any

time, cut my lawn on Sunday, because my Catholic neighbour who

lives three blocks away and I do not know, may believe I'm

breaking his sabbath day? Examples like this are endless!


Of course Paul is not teaching that we can be ALL THINGS to ALL

PEOPLE at ALL TIMES. If we do not take ourselves out of society,

it would be MENTALLY and PHYSICALLY an impossibility to act,

dress, eat, drink etc. etc. so not to offend ANYONE. Someone

somewhere is sure to not approve of something you are saying or

doing.


Read again these verses in Rom.14:21; 1 Cor.8:9-13; 10:23, but

now read them in CONTEXT within the chapter.

Now do you see? Paul was talking about SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES and

SPECIFIC persons whom you DID KNOW or would come to you and say

they were offended by what you were doing. Many would be "weak in

the faith" (not understanding all that God taught on a specific

subject in His word) or new members in the Church of God, and

may, because of their former upbringing, background or training,

be OFFENDED at what you knew was your liberty in the Lord. Then

under THOSE SITUATIONS Paul says DO NOT USE YOUR LIBERTY - as

long as the situation lasts, as long as you are with, or when you

are with, that person or persons that would be offended at you

eating 'meat,' or 'drinking wine,' or 'eating food offered to

idols' or anything where by their conscience is defiled or made

weak - DO NOT BE SELFISH, do not use your LIBERTY, do not DESTROY

your BROTHER (church brother, physical brother, personal friend)

with that which is your liberty to do and which does not defile

your conscience. Paul is teaching us to be considerate of the

feelings and beliefs of others WHEN WE KNOW THEM and when KEEPING

COMPANY WITH THEM or when THEY TELL US THEY ARE OFFENDED.


I have a number of Seventh Day Adventists as friends. I know

their feelings - they do not drink any alcohol ever. When they

visit with me I never serve any type of wine or alcoholic

beverage as I know this would offend them. Some do not eat meat

at any time or on any occasion. When they come over for a meal

with I never serve meat - I will make some very delicious

vegetarian dishes so they are not offended. If I had a neighbour

who would be offended at my cutting the lawn on Sunday, I would

cut it on some other day. 


I think you should now get the picture.


DRINKING AND DRIVING?


The high speed automobile was not around in Abraham's, Moses', or

Jesus' day.

In those days they did not have to think about whether 'drinking

and driving' mixed, but we today DO!! The Lord says "come let us

reason together" - the Spirit of the Lord is a Spirit of "a sound

mind." God's word is not a text book on science, surgery,

automobile repairs or hundreds of other technical arts. God's

word is a text book of the basic laws of life that will produce

health and happiness in our physical life and is an instruction

book of how to obtain everlasting life. Some of these laws are

ETERNAL - never changing under any generation or age. Some of

God's instructions are within what you would call "the liberty of

the Lord" - the Lord allows us to DO or NOT DO certain things and

still be within His law and grace, such as eating meat or not

eating eat. Some of these allowences and principles must also be

used with LOVE and WISDOM within the context of the circumstances

of any particular time, as we have seen in the above section of

not offending people in specific situations.


The drinking and driving circumstance is within the context of a

particular time - the age when the automobile is a reality - when

the human mind that God gave us together with FACTS tell us that

the automobile can be a deadly weapon when driven by someone who

has, in some cases, only had a few drinks of alcohol. Through

much study and research many countries have instituted laws as to

what they consider is the safe amount of alcohol that a person

can have in their blood and still be a SAFE and RESPONSIBLE

DRIVER. This is using the mind and scientific ability that the

Lord endowed us with to a RIGHT and GOOD purpose, applied to a

circumstance that is relatively new to mankind, that of drinking

alcohol and driving an automobile. WE SHOULD HEED THIS KNOWLEDGE

AND THIS LAW OF OUR LAND!! The world cries out "Do not drink and

drive." ANY responsible person, SHOULD TAKE HEED AND OBEY THAT

INSTRUCTION - IT IS WISDOM! It is sound mindedness based on true

research, knowledge and facts.


The Lord gave us wine and strong drink FOR OUR ENJOYMENT, to make

glad our hearts, to make His Festivals times of physical as well

as spiritual delight, to make the marriage feast brim full of

happiness, to lift the mind and heart of the down cast, to use

as a health tonic. Wine and strong drink are for times of

RELAXATION and NOT when you are going to take a DEADLY WEAPON

into your hands. And an automobile IS A DEADLY WEAPON! Thousands

of people are killed every year on our highways by automobiles,

WHEN THEY ARE QUITE SOBER!! IT IS A VERY SERIOUS RESPONSIBILITY

TO DRIVE AN AUTOMOBILE - ANY TIME .


The Lord has allowed us to invent the horseless carriage (even

they could be dangerous). The automobile like the horse drawn

carriage is NOT SIN OF AND BY ITSELF. Likewise, alcohol is not

sin of and by itself (though some will teach it is) as God's word

has shown us, but it must be used CAREFULLY and with

SELF-CONTROL. So it must also be with the automobile, it should

be used with care and with self-control. And as the world has

proven beyond any reasonable doubt - the two do not mix.


DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE!!


ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, AND DRUGS?


Mr.Saunders in his booklet writes, "... Mr. Rowe... though he

acknowledges the evils of drunkeness, he argues that a 'moderate

amount of alcohol won't hurt you, nor is it wrong for Christians

to drink alcoholic beverages moderately.' If this be true, can it

not be argued that using tobacco 'moderately' is not wrong? And

how about a 'moderate dose of drugs? ..." (page 27).


Well if we want to speak about "drug" in general, then, I will

point out to you that there are a number of books on the market

written by doctors that admit and state that ALL DRUGS 

(manmade pharmacist chemical drugs) ARE TOXIC, that is POISONOUS

to some extent. Some are more poisonous than others. ALL have

SIDE EFFECTS to one degree or the other. The MEDICINE profession

has come a long long way from its founding father HIPPOCRATES who

said, "Food must be our medicine, and our medicine must be our

food." 


As for TOBACCO, it is not specifically mentioned in the word of

God, but then a lot of other substances that people want to take

into their bodies are not mentioned either, such as TEA or COFFEE

or PEPSI-COLA. We again must use our minds in a logical way

together with what scientific information may come our way, to

determine whether we should deliberately take into our bodies

certain substances. It has never to me seemed very logical to

inhale smoke. This deduction of mine was probably due to my many

camp-fire cookings I experienced as a Boy-Scout when growing up.

Now we have mountains of factual and research data that show

smoking tobacco is very detramental to your health and our bodies

well being.


The word of God plainly says that our bodies are the temple of

the Holy Spirit and if we defile that temple - if we practice a

way of life that leads to destroying our mind or body, God will

destroy us. He does expect us to physically take care of His

temple. A Christian should not take poisons into God's temple. A

Christian should not smoke tobacco even in moderation just as

they should not take strong toxic drugs even in moderation, for

the evidence of the bad effects of these outweigh by far any so

called 'good' that some claim they have on the body, the nerves

or the mind. 


But such is not the case for the moderate use of wine, beer or

the Biblical strong drink. God's word endorses that last sentence

and modern scientific research is ever proving the Eternals word

as accurate.


Wine is now proven to be healthy for you, of course used in

moderation. For it is also proven that many "good things" over-

done, can become harmful to you.


IN CONCLUSION


David Wilkerson (author of the best-seller "The Cross and the

Switchblade") has had intimate contact with countless people,

mostly teen-agers, whose lives have been ruined by drugs and

alcohol. He has written a small book called, "Sipping Saints" in

which he competently exposes the dreadful and tragic results of

alcoholism. While I can also deplore the abuse of alcohol by the

young or the old, and shout just as loud as Mr.Wilkerson against

drunkeness and alcohol addiction, I find that David Wilkerson has

followed the oath that so many others have trod when talking or

writing about this subject. Lots of GLANDULAR EMOTION and very

little scholarly research into ascertaining what the word of God

truly says.


I find Mr.Wilkerson's emotional outbursts against those

Christians who do not hold his "no Christian should drink

alcohol" attitude, very unbecoming to say the least and possibly

very offensive to many self-controlled Christian drinkers. Some

of his statements are:


"Who drinks beverage alcohol. Those whose hearts are in revolt

against emptiness ... Those whose spiritual minds are out of

joint ... Those who have not yet fastened onto a higher love ...

The need for alcohol originates with unfulfilled spiritual  

desires. Artificial stimulation becomes a crutch for weak

Christians who have not learned to tap the inner river of life

that flows from God's Holy Spirit ... Why is drinking an    

irresponsible act for any true Christian? Because the machinery

of a spiritual heart can run on nothing less than holy oil! ...

The only responsible drinking I know is drinking from the

fountain of life in Jesus Christ! ... Only impaired spirits need

stimulants of any kind ... "


As I have always been a methodical thinker, one who has always

tried to "prove all things" by getting as much information and

facts on any doctrine as possible before arriving at a

conclusion, I find the name calling, down grading and disparging

comments of Mr.Wilkinson very distainful. I do not know how he

hopes to win others to his way of thinking with such remarks,

unless they are ones who are just as glandularly emotional as he

is himself with regards to this topic. I ask those who are

hungering for truth and righteousness not to let human feelings

and emotions on this topic of alcohol rule their mind. But to do

as the wise Bareans did when Paul preached to them, "....They

received the word with all readiness of mind, and SEARCHED THE

SCRIPTURES DAILY, whether those things were so. Therefore many of

them BELIEVED..."(Acts 17:11,12).


REMEMBER IT IS NOT MAN'S WORD, BUT GOD'S WORD THAT IS TRUTH 

(John 17:17).


                             .................


Written in 1985


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