QUIVER FULL OF CHILDREN TEACHING
There are some groups out there that teach God's command and instructions to married couples is to have LOTS and LOTS of children.
They use as one main Scripture Psalm 127:3-5. Especially verse 5.
THE ERROR
Many people have no idea the Bible uses [dozens upon dozens of times] GENERAL Statements.
I have a full in-depth article study on that subject. You need to make sure you study it and see that truth in the Bible. It's on my website [keithhunt.com]
Verse 3.... children are "the fruit of the womb is his reward." True if your womb and everything else is working normally; but the fact is in real life, in past ages in the Bible, people of God did not always have the fruit of the womb. Things did not work as normal. So this must be a GENERAL statement from God, or He would right what is wrong, so couples [especially Godly couples] could have many many children. Obviously some couples did not have many children, some a few, some had none, as recorded in the Bible. Some God opened the womb and they had one child, as with Hanna having Samuel - it is not recorded she had any more children. So it is not automatic that a couple will have any children, some a quiver full, some one or two, some none.
"As arrows are in hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth."
Another general statement; for the first part is saying a skilled mighty man with arrows is strong in life. But to apply this to having many children to make a couple strong, does not always work in the reality of overall human life. Sometimes children are evil and bring disaster on parents, as with Cain and Abel [Gen. 4], and the two sons of Eli [1 Sam. 2 and 3]. Hence this also has to be a general statement.
"Happy is the man that has his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate."
Another general statement: Many parents with many children have not always been happy; their children, some of them, more of them, can bring disgrace and troubles on parents that bring anguish of heart, and anything but happiness. And enemies are not won in the gates, but can injure and kill their children. Hence a general statement.
This whole section on having many children, is a general statement only. It is or can be the case at times for parents, but no guarantee as many parents have found out through the centuries. It is also to teach us that we must not fear of having many children IF we desire, and IF it happens, for there is a hope that it can be a blessing, can be happy, can be they will not be ashamed.
There are no words here that say: "And God will guarantee having many children will make you strong, happy, and never be ashamed."
People who teach you are to have as many children as possible, and use this verse as a proof text, just do not see the whole Bible, all examples in the Bible, and do NOT understand the dozens and dozens of verses in the Bible that are general statements only.
AND SO MANY FALSE DOCTRINES ARISE BY PEOPLE WHO ARE BLINDED IN NOT UNDERSTANDING THE KEYS TO CORRECT BIBLE READING, PUTTING SCRIPTURE WITH SCRIPTURE, AND ALSO USING COMMON HUMAN LOGIC.
ONE MORE ADDED TRUTH
IT IS CLEAR FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT GOD ALLOWED POLYGAMY [HAVE A FULL STUDY ON IT ON MY WEBSITE] IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. NOW IF GOD DESIRES, DECREES, COMMANDS COUPLES TO HAVE LOTS OF CHILDREN, AND ONE WIFE FOR WHATEVER REASON PRODUCES ONLY ONE OR TWO, THEN WHY DO WE NOT FIND EXAMPLES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT THE MAN GOES LOOKING FOR MORE WIVES, BECAUSE HE SAYS...."GOD HAS TOLD US TO HAVE MANY MANY CHILDREN.....A QUIVER FULL. SO IT SEEMS I CANNOT WITH THIS WIFE, SO I BETTER HAVE MORE WIVES."
SUCH WORDS CANNOT BE FOUND BY ANY OF GOD'S CHILDREN IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, WHEN POLYGAMY WAS ALLOWED. THY HAD MORE WIVES FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING MORE WIVES, AND NOTHING TO DO WITH CHILDREN. JESUS MADE IT PLAIN THAT FOR THE HARDNESS OF THE HEART [FRANKLY MORE SEX WITH MORE WOMEN WHOM YOU WERE PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED TO] POLYGAMY WAS ALLOWED - SEE MAT. 19 PRINCIPLE. AND SEE MY STUDY ON POLYGAMY ON MY WEBSITE.
WHY IS IT WE CANNOT FIND ANY VERSE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, "YOU ARE TO HAVE AS MANY CHILDREN AS POSSIBLE" OR "THE LORD COMMANDS YOU ARE TO HAVE LOTS OF CHILDREN" OR "THE LORD WANTS YOU TO REPRODUCE ALL THROUGH YOUR YEARS OF REPRODUCTION" OR "IF A MAN FINDS HIS WIFE CANNOT REPRODUCE HE SHOULD OBTAIN ANOTHER WIFE WHO CAN BRING FORTH LOTS OF CHILDREN."
WHY IS THE NEW TESTAMENT COMPLETELY SILENT ON PRODUCING AS MANY CHILDREN AS POSSIBLE; AGAIN NOTHING LIKE THE VERSES I'VE GIVEN ABOVE ARE FOUND IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. SURELY WITH ALL THAT PAUL WROTE ABOUT, HE WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT WE ARE TO CONTINUE [IF IT WAS EVER A LAW OF GOD] HAVING AS MANY CHILDREN AS POSSIBLE. WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS PUT TO PAUL THAT ARE RECORDED FOR US, THERE IS NO QUESTION ASKED OF HIM LIKE, "ARE WE STILL TO HAVE AS MANY CHILDREN AS POSSIBLE UNDER THE NEW COVENANT?" [SUPPOSING WE WERE UNDER THE OLD COVENANT THAT IS].
UNDER "MARRIAGE" THAT PAUL TALKED IN SOME LENGTH ABOUT AT TIMES, WE CAN NOT FIND ANYTHING LIKE, "SEE HOW MANY CHILDREN PETER, JAMES, AND JOHN HAVE; THEY ARE FINE EXAMPLES TO FOLLOW, AS THEY ARE DOING THE LORD'S WILL."
THE NEW TESTAMENT IS COMPLETELY SILENT ON HOW MANY CHILDREN A COUPLE SHOULD HAVE, JUST AS THE OLD TESTAMENT IS ALSO. THERE IS NO LAW IN THE LAWS OF MOSES AS TO TRYING TO OBTAIN LOTS AND LOTS OF CHILDREN, FROM ONE OR MORE WIVES.
ONE MORE ADDED TRUTH
IT IS CLEAR FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT GOD ALLOWED POLYGAMY [HAVE A FULL STUDY ON IT ON MY WEBSITE] IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. NOW IF GOD DESIRES, DECREES, COMMANDS COUPLES TO HAVE LOTS OF CHILDREN, AND ONE WIFE FOR WHATEVER REASON PRODUCES ONLY ONE OR TWO, THEN WHY DO WE NOT FIND EXAMPLES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT THE MAN GOES LOOKING FOR MORE WIVES, BECAUSE HE SAYS...."GOD HAS TOLD US TO HAVE MANY MANY CHILDREN.....A QUIVER FULL. SO IT SEEMS I CANNOT WITH THIS WIFE, SO I BETTER HAVE MORE WIVES."
SUCH WORDS CANNOT BE FOUND BY ANY OF GOD'S CHILDREN IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, WHEN POLYGAMY WAS ALLOWED. THY HAD MORE WIVES FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING MORE WIVES, AND NOTHING TO DO WITH CHILDREN. JESUS MADE IT PLAIN THAT FOR THE HARDNESS OF THE HEART [FRANKLY MORE SEX WITH MORE WOMEN WHOM YOU WERE PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED TO] POLYGAMY WAS ALLOWED - SEE MAT. 19 PRINCIPLE. AND SEE MY STUDY ON POLYGAMY ON MY WEBSITE.
WHY IS IT WE CANNOT FIND ANY VERSE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, "YOU ARE TO HAVE AS MANY CHILDREN AS POSSIBLE" OR "THE LORD COMMANDS YOU ARE TO HAVE LOTS OF CHILDREN" OR "THE LORD WANTS YOU TO REPRODUCE ALL THROUGH YOUR YEARS OF REPRODUCTION" OR "IF A MAN FINDS HIS WIFE CANNOT REPRODUCE HE SHOULD OBTAIN ANOTHER WIFE WHO CAN BRING FORTH LOTS OF CHILDREN."
WHY IS THE NEW TESTAMENT COMPLETELY SILENT ON PRODUCING AS MANY CHILDREN AS POSSIBLE; AGAIN NOTHING LIKE THE VERSES I'VE GIVEN ABOVE ARE FOUND IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. SURELY WITH ALL THAT PAUL WROTE ABOUT, HE WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT WE ARE TO CONTINUE [IF IT WAS EVER A LAW OF GOD] HAVING AS MANY CHILDREN AS POSSIBLE. WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS PUT TO PAUL THAT ARE RECORDED FOR US, THERE IS NO QUESTION ASKED OF HIM LIKE, "ARE WE STILL TO HAVE AS MANY CHILDREN AS POSSIBLE UNDER THE NEW COVENANT?" [SUPPOSING WE WERE UNDER THE OLD COVENANT THAT IS].
UNDER "MARRIAGE" THAT PAUL TALKED IN SOME LENGTH ABOUT AT TIMES, WE CAN NOT FIND ANYTHING LIKE, "SEE HOW MANY CHILDREN PETER, JAMES, AND JOHN HAVE; THEY ARE FINE EXAMPLES TO FOLLOW, AS THEY ARE DOING THE LORD'S WILL."
THE NEW TESTAMENT IS COMPLETELY SILENT ON HOW MANY CHILDREN A COUPLE SHOULD HAVE, JUST AS THE OLD TESTAMENT IS ALSO. THERE IS NO LAW IN THE LAWS OF MOSES AS TO TRYING TO OBTAIN LOTS AND LOTS OF CHILDREN, FROM ONE OR MORE WIVES.
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