A FRIEND SENT ME THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS TO GET MY REPLY
"Can demons return to the person whom they left? Yes, but this is mostly a concern for non-believers who have undergone a deliverance, and haven't accepted Jesus yet. Jesus warns the 'wicked generation' (sinners) that the demon can return with 7 even worse demons. If you are a believer though, and your deliverance has been complete (all the demons kicked out and legal rights have been broken), then this isn't a concern to you. However, if you go back and re-open the door(s) that let the demon in, you are re-welcoming him back in. But if we don't go back and re-punch that hole in our hedge again, we don't have have to go around worrying about it returning."
***Would agree here
"Who are we supposed to cast demons out of? Although it is possible and sometimes beneficial to cast demons out of unbelievers, the deliverance ministry is geared towards believers for a number of reasons. For one, it's part of the new covenant, which does not apply to unbelievers. Second, without Christ, you cannot remove the legal grounds the demon has in a person, therefore the problem hasn't been solved, it's only been stirred up. Third, Jesus warned that if you cast demons out of an unbeliever (sinner, wicked generation), it will come back with 7 more even worse demons and the man will be far worse then before (Matthew 12:43-45). I believe there are times when it is helpful to cast demons out of unbelievers, but that's not the focus of this ministry, Jesus said that this is children's bread (Matthew 15:26) and it is geared towards setting the believers free from demonic bondage."
***If something is not put into the void of "now no demons" then yes the demons can return. So it is of little use if a demon/s are cast out and the individual is not brought to see the void must be filled up with the things of God. So yes the main purpose of say having the gift to cast out demons, is to bring the individual to now fill up on things of God. Maybe in the case of little children the one with the gift of casting out the demon/s would also have to power to say, "And do not return." Children can then learn to move towards God's word and way of life.
"How can a demon dwell within a believer who has the Holy Spirit? Many believe that anybody who has the Holy Spirit is immune from demonic bondage. This theology usually stems from a faulty belief that the soul (mind) and the spirit are the same things. The moment we are born again, our spirits are reborn and the Holy Spirit is united with our spirit. The soul (mind) of a man is not instantly reborn as the spirit is, but rather we are told to be transformed by the renewing of our minds, which doesn't happen instantly. Our souls is where the dirt lies, and where the demons dwell, not our spirits. Therefore, there is no reason left to believe that a Christian is immune from demonic bondage, because their souls are usually on the dirty side until they are renewed over time.
***Really bad theology here. The human individual, is made up of the physical body as a whole; the blood that gives [with air and food and drink] life to the physical body; the human brain; and "the spirit in man" which is from God and united with our brain, to give us unique living, different from any animal.
The subject of being "born again" is obviously not understood correctly by the writer. On conversion the Spirit of God unites with "the spirit in man" and the person becomes a child of God, but human nature is not destroyed, the pulls of the flesh can still pull.
If the soul and the spirit were the same things, you would instantly be a perfect person, never to sin again, once you are born again.
***Bad theology. The soul is life in the blood; the "spirit in man" is separate, and works with the brain. You do not become perfect and never able to sin again when converted [author calls it "born again" - a Protestant fundamentalist phrase not understood by them]; on God's Spirit uniting with our "spirit in man" and the brain, we become converted, but can still sin; human nature and Satan/demons do not become extinct, at our conversion, hence we can still sin under temptations.
There would be no 'evil' left in you, no desires to do wrong, and you would hate it bitterly because you would be perfect in your mind/soul and united with God, therefore there would be no room to sin.
***Again, mixing up the wrong ideas on body, soul, spirit. All fully explained in detail on my website under "Death...then What?" and other related studies. You will never be perfect until the resurrection day at Christ's coming. Until then, even with the Spirit of God united with the "spirit in man" you can still sin. See 1 John 1 and into chapter 2.
In John 8:31-34, Jesus tells us that even though they were believers, they were held slaves to sin because they were ignorant of the truth;
***Technically the Jews Jesus was speaking to, just had a form of "belief" in Him, as He spoke a few sentences later, they were still wanting to kill Him. Context reading is so often ignored and so leads to many false ideas.
This proves that Christians can be in bondage to darkness.
***Other Bible NT verses show indeed a Christian can sin [Rom. 7 for starters] - they can come under darkness and sin, back to 1 John 1 and 2. again.
If a demon can affect our minds (souls),
*** The "soul" is not the mind per se..... wrong theology.
They can do an awfully lot of damage. Look at what mental illness can do to people through affecting the mind!
***Mental illness should not be automatically associated with demons. Parts of the brain can often "miss-fire" - not run in a smooth connected manner, and so produce mental sickness.
They can cause the person to have unspeakable desires, thoughts, emotions, and do unthinkable things!"
***The demons are still out there in the Christian world; they do not disappear on conversion. So yes they influence you, try to tempt you like Satan did to Jesus in the 40 days wilderness fasting He did.
And as He said to Peter once, "Get behind me Satan, you speak not the things of God." Full demon possession for a Christian would mean walking away from God, stopping the uniting of God's Spirit with the "spirit in man" - becoming UN-converted.
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ON MY BLOG FOR 2015 UNDER "CHRISTIANS - DEMONS - SIN" YOU WILL FIND A LENGTHY "QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS" SECTION.
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