RUSSIA....UKRAINE.....EZEKIEL 38??
We have the Protestant fundamental prophets teaching with all gusto, that Russia and some Arab nations will, before Jesus returns, in fact very shortly they say, invade the Jews in the Holy Land, but God will destroy them.
Another take on this Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophecy is from the various British Israel groups; they teach Russia and company will try to come against Britain and the USA and the West as we see from the following recent published article - Keith Hunt.
FROM "THY KINGDOM COME" - MAY 2014 - a publication of the Association of the Covenant People, Burnaby, B.C. Canada.
God Is Still In Charge - Ezekiel 38
by Pastor Alan Campbell, Northern Ireland
I was privileged to speak at the 1997 Association Covenant People conference in Vancouver where I spoke on the prophecy of Ezekiel. A month before the conference Britain had turned over Hong Kong to China, thus losing the last major gate of it enemies. Still, at the time, China, a close ally of Russia, was not the economic powerhouse she was to become. Russia was still limping along after losing all her satellite countries and relied greatly on western economic help. Her glory days appeared over after being turned back, as prophesied by Ezekiel 38:4.
(THE PROPHECY OF EZEKIEL 38 HAD AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA LIMPING ALONG AFTER LOOSING HER SATELLITE COUNTRIES - Keith Hunt)
There seemed no longer an appetite for conquest and she appeared content to be just an important member of the world community. Yet, underneath, there must have been a longing for the grand old days when so many nations were in their grip. I suppose that deep in their thoughts, they had a realization that it would take a set of circumstances and a unique leader to bring about a reversal of the decline.
(I DOUBT RUSSIA WAS CONCERNED ABOUT JUST BEING A FEDERATION. SHE WAS STILL AS POWERFUL MILITARILY AS THE USA, AND SHE WAS TOO CONCERNED WITH HER ECONOMY, TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT REGAINING FALLEN-AWAY NATIONS, THAT SEEMED TO BE QUITE HAPPY WITHOUT HER - Keith Hunt)
Probably, a thought along these lines must have gone through the Russian Bear's mind, "there must be a way to bring about the right conditions." Happily for them, the passage of short years since those events of 1988/89 brought fertile conditions. Oil & gas revenues soared and gave Russia the financial muscle to upgrade its military and its nuclear arsenal.
(UPGRADE? DON'T THINK SO, SHE WAS ALREADY QUITE UPGRADED AND HAD A SPACE PROGRAM THAT HAS BEATEN OUT THE USA AS OF TODAY - Keith Hunt)
The results of their build-up were even more advantageous because Russia stayed out of foreign wars, consequently, she didn't expend her arsenal, or encumber the nation with astronomical debt.
(EXACTLY..... SHE COULD SPEND TIME ON HER ECONOMY AND BEING ONE OF THE G8 NATIONS - Keith Hunt)
Not so with her main antagonists to be, America and Britain. Particularly after 911, they went from one hot spot to another, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya being the most prominent. These wars cost tens of thousands of lives and wounded soldiers, not counting the hundreds of thousands of lives of host countries in the war zones. These wars also resulted in national debt that is so severe it can never be repaid, with much of the debt owing to the very countries Ezekiel states we will be facing in battle.
(THE BRITISH ISRAEL GROUPS TEACH THIS EZEKIEL PROPHECY IS GOING TO BE TOWARDS US....THE WEST... THE NATIONS OF ISRAEL. I'LL SAY MORE AT THE END - Keith )
The wars have I most certainly sapped the desire of the American and British people to involve themselves in yet another war. Then too, wars for manufactured reasons, as we have seen, have generated a hate against America and Britain that will most assuredly draw traditional enemies of the west, together with many present and former friendly nations, to a common purpose, allied against us. So, everything is in place for the second part of Ezekiel's prophesy, "And. I will put hooks I into your jaws and I will bring thee forth."
(THIS EZEKIEL PROPHECY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING BEFORE THE RETURN OF CHRIST. IT IS A PROPHECY FOR AFTER CHRIST HAS RETURNED - Keith Hunt)
All that is needed to bring Bible prophecy to fruition is the unique leader Russia has been seeking. And she found that leader in the person of Vladimer Putin, a former premier at a time conditions I were not ripe for what he has in mind. But, they are now ideal; at least Putin thinks they are! In my last article I described him as a bully who has a fierce desire to restore what he considers the I glory years and the annexation of Crimea is simply the first step.
(PUTIN WOULD HAVE DONE NOTHING IF THE RUSSIAN UKRAINE PEOPLE HAD NOT DESIRED TO BE A PART OF RUSSIA. IS RUSSIA GOING TO REFUSE TO LET THEM COME JOIN THEIR FEDERATION? I GUESS NOT. THEIR CULTURE AND LANGUAGE FOR RUSSIAN UKRAINE PEOPLE IS RUSSIAN. THEY SET IN MOTION THE HELP FROM RUSSIA THEY WANTED. IT WAS NOT PUTIN OR RUSSIA THAT STARTED IT ALL. IT WAS THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE WHO SEE THEMSELVES AS RUSSIAN, AND WANT TO BE PART OF RUSSIA - Keith Hunt)
He very likely feels secure because of the fragile American and British economy, their unsustainable debt and the anxiety of their people; coupled with the EU's, particularly Germany's, dependence on Russian oil and gas. It's akin to the Bible verse, "The borrower is servant to the lender." In this case, "the customer is servant to the supplier."
(RUSSIA WAS HELPING AS REQUESTED. AND SURE THEY KNEW THE WEST WOULD NOT START A WAR WITH RUSSIA, THEY NEW SANCTIONS WOULD BE USED, BUT THEY PRETTY WELL KNEW THEY COULD SURVIVE THE SANCTIONS, AND HELP THEIR FELLOW UKRAINE RUSSIANS - Keith Hunt)
Events appear to be moving so quickly that what I could say today may be old news tomorrow. The blunt statement from Russian sources, "We will protect ours" is likely to be repeated many times as an excuse to intervene in nations with large Russian populations. Right now, we all know that some forty thousand Russian soldiers are amassed on the Ukrainian border ready for the order to move into Eastern and Southern Ukraine, an area with a huge percentage of former Russian people. It looks inevitable.
(COULD WELL BE INEVITABLE. BUT AGAIN IT IS RUSSIAN HELPING RUSSIAN...... A FRIEND HELPING A FRIEND. WOULD THE BRITISH NOT HELP A BRITISH FRIEND OF THE COMMONWEALTH? I THINK SO. BLOOD DOES RUN DEEP IN A FAMILY - Keith Hunt)
We hear daily speculation that Russia has aims against the whole of Ukraine but there are also frequent articles about Moldava, particularly that strip of land between Ukraine and Moldava (Transtria), as well as the Balkan countries, Georgia and even Finland and Poland. Remember, one thing learned from experience is that a bully becomes even more emboldened when there is no resistance.
(IT'S NOT BULLYING TO HELP A FRIEND. RUSSIA IS HELPING RUSSIANS, YES TO DETERMINE WHO THEY WANT TO HOOK UP WITH, ALBEIT MEANING UKRAINE DIVIDES INTO TWO - Keith Hunt)
And so, we are beginning to hear the words, "Are we going to stand up to them." It will be a decision of great anguish. Maybe the western nations have to be pushed further. So far we have had the usual diplomatic negotiations and we did hear that phrase "Peace in our times" out of world leaders. It reminds us of 1 Thessalonians 5:3 "For when they shall say, peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them ..." For our older readers, it likely reminds them of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain when he returned to London just before World War II and proclaimed, "Peace in our times".
(THE SITUATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 1 THES. 5:3 AND NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN HISTORY. RUSSIA IS NOT TRYING TO CONQUER EUROPE. SHE IS HELPING RUSSIAN BLOOD RELATIVES OF THE SAME FAMILY, TO DETERMINE WHO WHAT FAMILY THEY DESIRE TO BE PART OF....JUST THAT SIMPLE. NO DARK PLAN HERE OF RUSSIA BEING ANOTHER HITLER AND HIS CLONES, DESIRING TO CONQUER EUROPE; SUCH WOULD BE TOTAL FOLLY ON THE PART OF RUSSIA, AND PUTIN IS NOT STUPID - Keith Hunt)
Here's an interesting thought, perhaps a sequence of events repeated. Hitler's first move was to annex Austria, Putin annexed Crimea. Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia and annexed the northern part, Sudetenland. If the script is to be followed, then Putin will move into Eastern Ukraine. Hitler (then invaded the balance of Czechoslovakia so perhaps the sequence of events will have Russia taking over the balance of the Ukraine. We just have to stay tuned.
(NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH BEING ANOTHER HITLER. EASTERN UKRAINE MAY VERY WELL SPLIT AND JOIN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION. BUT PUTIN AND RUSSIA ARE NOT AFTER CONQUERING EUROPE. BIBLE PROPHECY SAYS NO SUCH THING WILL HAPPEN PER SE BEFORE THE LAST 3 AND 1/2 YEARS OF THIS AGE. THEN RUSSIA AND THE EAST WILL STRIKE THE BABYLON BEAST, HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE OF EUROPE [REV. 9] BUT NOT BEFORE - Keith Hunt)
But, wait a minute, Mr. Putin! Do you really think you are in charge of events? Or is God using you, as He used the Pharaoh of Egypt or King Nebuchadnezzar? Read Ezekiel 38:4 again! It clearly says, "And I will put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth ..."
You have no choice, you will do as God directs, perhaps not this month or next but it is He who is in charge. It's in the Book. ■
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OH INDEED GOD WILL DO AS GOD DIRECTS. AND YES WE WILL READ EZEKIEL 38 AND 39 AGAIN.
IF THIS IS A PROPHECY OF RUSSIA AND COMPANY COMING AGAINST BRITAIN, THE USA, AND THE WEST. NOTE WHAT IT THEN SAYS ABOUT THE WEST [GOING ALONG WITH BRITISH ISRAEL THINKING] ...... in verses 8-11.... the people of Israel are dwelling safely, they have unwalled towns and villages, they are at rest, they have no walls, nor bars nor gates....the enemy shall not know it [v.14]. Russia can know everything today via satellite and spying networks. Do you think Britain, the USA, and Europe, will ever think they are safe; take down their defenses, have no walls of defense, have no bars or gates, of protection, before the end of this age comes. Can you ever imagine the West ever doing such a thing before Christ returns, and Russia and company will never know anything about such a move. NEVER, NEVER, it just will NOT HAPPEN before Jesus returns. To think it will would have to be the wildest and craziest nightmare a person could have.
For those Protestant prophets who say this is a prophecy in the near future of Russia and company coming to invade the Jews in the Holy Land; again will the Jews ever take away their walls, bars, gates, of defense? Will the Palestinians before Christ returns decide to have 100 percent peace with the Jews, so all the Jewish walls they have literally built around their nation will come down? The idea of that is so illogical, it hardly bears contemplating; it is a nutty teaching and thought.
In chapter 39 the people of Israel will burn the left over enemy weapons for SEVEN YEARS! [verse 9]. You can only burn weapons that are burnable, like cave-men style weapons; you do not burn weapons made of steel. And the attacking of Russia and company would be with modern up-to-date weapons of mass destruction, if they were to come in warfare against the West, or the Jews in the Holy Land.
In chapter 39 and verse 12. Israel will be burying the enemy for SEVEN MONTHS! In a modern war [just around the corner as some preach] you would not need tens of thousands of troops; you would use modern planes with bombs to do your work of destruction and conquest.
THE WHOLE IDEAS OF EITHER RUSSIA AND COMPANY COMING AGAINST THE WEST, OR INVADING THE LAND OF THE JEWS [BRITISH ISRAEL OR PROTESTANT PROPHETS TEACHING] IS TOTALLY ILLOGICAL AND FRANKLY STUPID REASONING, WITH WHAT IS WRITTEN IN EZEKIEL 38 AND 39.
WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THOSE TWO CHAPTERS CAN MAKE FULL SENSE AND LOGIC, WHEN VIEWED AFTER ALL THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION HAS COME TO PASS, AND AFTER JESUS HAS RETURNED TO JERUSALEM, AND AGAIN RESTORING THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH BACK IN A 100 PERCENT SAFE HOLY LAND. WHERE JESUS AND THE GLORIFIED SAINTS ARE THE PROTECTING WALLS FOR THE PHYSICAL PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.
Keith Hunt
From "Thy Kingdom Come" - June 2014 - a publication of the Association of the Covenant People, Burnaby, B.C. Canada.
A Christian Israelite View
A RELUCTANT ACCOMPLICE
by Bob Vermaat
"And I will turn thee back, and put hooks in thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth" (Eze.38:4)
(I've told you how the British Israel groups teach that Russia and company will attack and destroy the nations of the West, that are predominantly Israelite nations. Mr. Vermaat continues with this teaching, but he does bring out a few points concerning the recent Ukraine and Russia situation - Keith Hunt)
In the last couple of months a great deal of attention has been paid to the turmoil in the Ukraine and the possible repercussions that might come forth out of all this unrest. A good number of Bible students are pointing at the Gog and Magog prophecy of Ezekiel 38, and most of them are pointing the finger at the terrible Russian Bear as being the proverbial boogie man causing all the unrest. But, let's look at this situation a little closer to see if this analysis is correct. First, we have to understand that since the breakup of the Soviet Union, Ukraine has been a buffer zone between the West and Russia. A few years ago, a number of Ukraine's government officials were ousted and imprisoned on corruption charges, and a new government leader was elected by a democratic process. Now, during the last several months new unrest has erupted and a tug of war seems to be taking place. Some of its citizens have been persuaded through outside pressure to join the Western block, principally NATO, whereas others have sought closer ties to Russia, these others mostly being ethnic Russians. So, when the people of the Crimean Peninsula voted overwhelmingly to be annexed with Russia, and Russia sent in some military personnel for protection, the indignant Western World called it an act of military aggression and interference. Whether it was or not, what happened to that point happened and we could only hope that further hostilities would be avoided.
As an aside, there is a touch of irony to Russia gobbling up Crimea, as she did. The irony being that we western nations have done exactly the same, as in the past we have intervened in other sovereign nations in the name of freedom and democracy. Think of the war against Serbia to help the people of Kosovo gain their independence. We thought we had to intervene, and probably we did, because the Kosovo people felt threatened and were seeking a new direction. Still, but by the same token, was there any difference in the Crimea people seeking a new direction through their overwhelming vote to join Russia?
The danger shaping up are the escalating events in Eastern Ukraine and if the West and Russia cannot find a solution to the continuing turmoil.....
Now I agree with Pastor Alan Campbell's description of Vladimer Putin as a bully. Perhaps I would go a step further and call him a risk-taking bully. Still, in the same way as we look upon the good and bad traits of our western leaders, we must admit that Mr. Putin has many fine attributes, as well as flaws. You know, in his tenure as the Russian Premier he has led Russia back to its Orthodox roots, something that was basically destroyed by the Bolsheviks. And interestingly, under his leadership some twenty-three hundred Russian Orthodox churches have been restored to religious service, with the emphasis on Christian worship and the unity of the family. He hosted a magnificent Winter Olympics, although he had to withstand the fierce attack from mostly western nations on his gay rights legislation. We Christians have to be encouraged that our fellow Christians in Russia are once again free to worship Almighty God. Sadly, it is such an obvious change from the pressure our faith is under here in the once Christian west.
At this point let's look again at the prophecy of Ezekiel 38. "Son of man, set thy face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, And say, thus saith the Lord God: behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army," (Ezekiel 38:2-4). We see here in verse four that Gog [Russia] is not perpetrating the act of aggression of his own volition, but that the Lord Himself will bring him forth, in other words Gog will have to be coerced into action. She will have to be provoked in order to come forth with all her military might. And if we consider the NATO allies' military along Russia's western borders, we can easily see that these actions could provoke the Russian Bear.....
(NOT SO AS THIS PROPHECY OF EZEKIEL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS AGE BEFORE JESUS RETURNS; IT HAS AS I'VE SHOWN, EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE FIRST YEARS AFTER CHRIST HAS RETURNED TO JERUSALEM, AND ALL THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL ARE AT PEACE AND SAFETY, WITH NO WALLS, BARS, OR GATES; NO DEFENSE NEEDED AS CHRIST AND THE SAINTS WILL BE THE SURE DEFENSE OF ISRAEL. THE CONTEXT OF EZEKIEL HERE IS FOR AFTER THE RETURN OF CHRIST TO THIS EARTH - Keith Hunt)
Interestingly, the fact that the Lord God Himself will bring Russia forth is to me an indication that just like the Lord brought the Assyrians against the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the Babylonians against the Southern Kingdom of Judah, he will bring Gog, Magog and confederates against True Israel.
(BRITISH ISRAEL TEACHING THAT RUSSIA WILL ATTACK THE WESTERN NATIONS AND DESTROY THEM. NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH - Keith Hunt)
Why! Because of our collective sins and idolatry. In addition to Ezekiel, the prophet Joel records God's warning that the day of the Lord is close at hand and he describes the invasion thusly, "a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like ..."
(THE DAY OF THE LORD IS LATER IN THE LAST 3 AND 1/2 YEARS OF THE END OF THIS AGE, AND NOT BEFORE. THE AUTHOR DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHEN THE DAY OF THE LORD IS TO COME. ALL EXPLAINED FULLY AND IN DETAIL ON MY WEBSITE UNDER "PROPHECY" - Keith Hunt)
So we can be certain it is the Lord Himself who will bring the adversary upon the Israelite nations, because of their sins and apostasy. They may not want to advance but the "hooks will be in their jaw.".....
(SO HE IS SAYING GOD WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN.....THE ISRAEL NATIONS OF THE WEST WILL BE ATTACKED AND DESTROYED BY RUSSIA AND COMPANY, BECAUSE OF OUR SINS - Keith Hunt)
The Western nations do seem to be stirring the cauldron of discontent and in places where we have no business meddling and for that the Lord will hold us accountable. Unfortunately, our leaders are making decisions that will lead to war. Russia, on the other hand, must act prudently or else their actions will lead to war. So far, they are not. But God is the decision maker and His Plan will not be altered. If He says that he will put hooks in the mouth of Gog and Magog, He will do so. The beginning is clearly outlined in Ezekiel 38:4, the ending in Ezekiel 39:4. The turning point is recorded in Hosea 6:1-2 when Israelites will go to their knees and pray, "Come, and let us return unto the Lord..." ....................
LET IT BE KNOWN, SOUND THE BELL! I STATE AGAIN, THE BRITISH ISRAEL GROUPS DO NOT UNDERSTAND END TIME BIBLE PROPHECY. THEY ARE LIKE THE FUNDAMENTAL PROTESTANT PROPHETS, THEY HAVE IT ALL WRONG. THIS EZEKIEL 38 AND 39 IS FOR AFTER JESUS HAS RETURNED.
NOTICE THE LAST VERSES OF CHAPTER 39—— IT IS THE TIME WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS BEEN POURED OUT ON ALL THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL. A TIME AFTER THE COMING OF CHRIST WHO DELIVERS ALL TRIBES OF ISRAEL FROM THEIR CAPTIVITY, AND RESTORES THEM TO THE PROMISED LAND, AS TAUGHT BY ALL THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS.
THERE WILL BE NO WAR BETWEEN THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH AND THE USA AND SOME NATIONS OF NORTH-WESTERN EUROPE.
THOSE NATIONS WILL BE DESTROYED BY THE RISING BEAST OF EUROPE - THE LAST RESURRECTION OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE - THE BEAST BABYLON MYSTERY RELIGION OF EUROPE, THAT WILL INDEED ONE DAY RULE THE WESTERN WORLD.
ALL PROPHECY IS EXPOUNDED IN DETAIL ON MY WEBSITE.
Keith Hunt
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