Saturday, January 16, 2021

CHRISTIAN JEWISH PROPHECY - DEBUNKED #2

 BABYLON  TO  RISE  AGAIN


From  the  "Jewish Voice Today" magazine - Jan/Feb. 2013


MY  ANSWERS - Keith Hunt



Prophecies found in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and Revelation indicate that Babylon the country and Babylon the city will, in fact, be resurrected and rebuilt in the last days, much as Israel and Jerusalem have been resurrected and rebuilt in recent decades. Indeed, the Bible indicates that the city of Babylon will not only be fully rebuilt but will actually become the wealthiest and most powerful—and eventually the most corrupt and wicked— city on the face of the planet. That maybe difficult for many to picture or accept, but it was also difficult for many to picture the "dry bones" of Israel being rebuilt until it happened in the twentieth century.


ANSWER:  WELL FIRST THE DRY BONES [EZEK.37] IS FOR THE END TIME BY THE CONTEXT, NOT SOMETHING ALREADY TAKEN PLACE LIKE MANY CHRISTIANS AND CHRISTIAN-JEWS TEACH. THE CONTEXT IS THE KEY AND THEY MISS THE CONTEXT. THE BABYLON OF REVELATION IS NOT THE OLD ANCIENT BABYLON. IT IS THE HEIGHT OF SILLINESS TO THINK OLD BABYLON CAN BECOME LIKE LONDON, OR NEW YORK, OR BERLIN, OR PARIS, WASHING D.C. THOSE CITIES TOOK HUNDREDS OF YEARS TO BECOME LARGE AND FAMOUS AND INFLUENTIAL WORLD CITIES. THE WRITER DOES NOT TELL YOU ABOUT THE SECULARISM AND HATE BETWEEN PARTIES IN WHAT IS LEFT OF IRAQ. IT WILL BE MANY YEARS BEFORE ANY STABILITY WILL EMERGE IN IRAQ; THEY NOR THE USA WILL HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND ON TRYING TO BUILD THE OLD ANCIENT BABYLON BACK TO COME CLOSE TO MATCHING THE HUGE CITIES OF THE WORLD, IN BUILDINGS, INDUSTRY, MODERN SPACE AGE MATERIALISM, AND ALSO MATCH THE CORRUPTIONS AND EVIL OF THE LARGE CITIES OF THE PRESENT WORLD. IT IS A PIPE DREAM TO SAY ANCIENT BABYLON WILL BECOME "THE WEALTHIEST, AND MOST POWERFUL, AND EVENTUALLY THE MOST CORRUPT AND WICKED CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH." THE WRITER IS HAVING WILD FANCIFUL DREAMS THAT PROVE HIS ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND END TIME BIBLE PROPHECY IS FIRST-GRADE MENTALITY. HE SHOULD BE IN SOME OTHER BUSINESS THAN TRYING TO TEACH BIBLE PROPHECY. MAYBE HE SHOULD BE A FARMER. I'M BEING VERY BLUNT, BUT MARK MY WORDS WELL.....WHAT  HE  IS  TEACHING  IS  UTTER  GARBAGE  AND  LAUGHABLE, IF IT WAS NOT SO SERIOUS A MATTER.


[What's fascinating to me is that such prophecies are already beginning to come to pass in our lifetime]


ANSWER:  THEY  ARE?  I  THINK  NOT.  WHAT  IS  COMING  TO  PASS  IS  THE  FORMING  OF  THE  LAST  HOLY  ROMAN  EMPIRE  IN  EUROPE,  AND  THE  FREEDOM  OF  SOME  ARAB  NATIONS  TO  EVENTUALLY  FOR  THE  "KING  OF  THE  SOUTH"  LED  BY  EGYPT.


In my 2006 book, Epicenter; I wrote an entire chapter on Saddam Hussein's efforts in the 1980s to begin rebuilding the ancient city of Babylon and on the new Iraqi government's plans to continue and dramatically expand the work that Saddam set into motion. I quoted a story that appeared on the front page of the New York Times on April 18, 2006, saying that "Babylon, the mud-brick city with the million-dollar name, has paid the price of war. It has been ransacked, looted, torn up, paved over, neglected, and roughly occupied, But Iraqi leaders and United Nations officials are not giving up on it. They are working assiduously to restore Babylon, home to one of the Seven Wonders of the World, and turn it into a cultural center and possibly even an Iraqi theme park."1 I also cited my interview with then-Iraqi finance minister Ali Ab dul Ameer Allawi, who told me, "Cultural, religious, archaeological, and biblical tourism is a big opportunity for Iraq. I think rebuilding Babylon is a wonderful idea., as long as it is not done at the expense of the antiquities themselves."2


ANSWER:  WHAT  MAY  SEEM  LIKE  A  GOOD  IDEA,  DOES  NOT  ALWAYS  COME  ABOUT;  IT  WOULD  TAKE  A  STABLE  GOVERNMENT,  WHICH  IS  YEARS  AWAY  FROM  COMING  ABOUT,  IT  EVER.  IT  WOULD  TAKE  HUGE  AMOUNTS  OF  MONEY,  IRAQ  DOES  NOT  HAVE  AND  THE  USA  WILL  NOT  GIVE,  CONSIDERING  THE  MONEY  THEY  NEED  TO  GET  BACK  TO  ECONOMIC  VIBRANT  POWER.  AND  THERE  IS  A  HUGE  DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN  SOME  FANCY  PARK  KIND  OF  CITY,  AND  BECOMING  THE  WEALTHIEST  AND  MOST  EVIL  CITY  IN  THE  WORLD.  AGAIN  YOU  ARE  LOOKING  AT  3  OR  4  GENERATIONS  IF  IT  IS  POSSIBLE  AT  ALL.


Since Epicenter was published, much more has been done to rebuild Iraq arid establish peace and security in the once and future Babylon. I have had the opportunity to travel to and minister in Iraq four times since the fall of Saddam Hussein, and each time the country was safer and more prosperous than the time I went before. Just as remarkable is that more steps have been taken to rebuild the actual city of Babylon as well, even with American assistance.


ANSWER:  I  THINK  HE  HAS  FAILED  TO  NOTICE  THE  RECENT [WELL  HE  WROTE  THIS  EARLY 2013]  VIOLENCE  IN  IRAQ  -  THEY  HAVE  RELIGIOUS  GROUPS  THAT  HATE  EACH  OTHER,  AND  THE  VIOLENCE  IS  HORRIFIC  AT  TIMES.  IT  WOULD  BE  DECADES  BEFORE  ANY  KIND  OF  EVEN  "NICE"  CITY  OF  BABYLON  COULD  COME  INTO  BEING,  AND  THEN  NEVER  AS  A  LEADING  CITY  OF  THE  WORLD  IN  WEALTH  AND  CORRUPTION AS  THE  AUHTOR  WANTS  YOU  TO  BELIEVE.


[THE BIBLE INDICATES THAT THE CITY OF BABYLON WILL NOT ONLY BE FULLY REBUILT BUT WILL ACTUALLY BECOME THE WEALTHIEST AND MOST POWERFUL - AND  EVENTUALLY THE MOST CORRUPT AND WICKED  CITY ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET]


ANSWER:  BUNCH  OF  SILLY  GARBAGE,  BASED  ON  A  HUGE  MASSIVE  MISUNDERSTANDING  OF  END  TIME  BIBLE  PROPHECY;  ONE  OF  THE  BIGGEST  FALSE  DREAMS  OF  A  WAY  OUT  MIND-SET  OF  SOMEONE  WHO  HAS  NO  CLUE  ABOUT  BIBLE  PROPHECY.


On February 14, 2009, I wrote a blog post under the headline "U.S. to Help Rebuild City of Babylon in Iraq."


ANSWER:  YES  THAT  WAS  2009;  A  LOT  HAS  HAPPENED  SINCE  THEN.  THE  USA  DOES  NOT  HAVE  THE  MONEY  NOR  THE  STUPIDNESS  TO  BOTHER  GIVING  PRECIOUS  TAX  PAYERS  MONEY  TO  HELP  REBUILD  SOME  ANCIENT  CITY,  THAT  WOULD  HAVE  LITTLE  OR  NO  RETURN  FOR  THE  USA.  AND  OIL  TO  RUN  AMERICA  IS  LESS  AND  LESS  DEPENDENT  ON  ARAB  NATIONS.


  The government of Iraqis moving forward with plans to protect the archaeological remains of the ancient city of Babylon, in preparation for building a modern city of Babylon. ... The Obama administration is contributing $700,000 toward "The Future of Babylon" project through the State Department's budget. "Officials hope Babylon can be revived and made ready for a rich future of tourism with help from experts at the World Monuments Fund (WMF) and the U.S. embassy reports the Reuters news agency. '"The Future of Babylon project launched last month seeks to map the current conditions of Babylon and develop a master plan for its conservation; study and tourism, the WMF says. 'We don't know how long it will take to reopen to tourists said Mariam Omran Musa, head of a government inspection team based at the site. It depends on funds. I hope that Babylon can be reborn in a better image. 


ANSWER:  THE  MONEY  WILL  NOT  BE  THERE  FOR  DECADES.  MAYBE  A  VERY  SMALL  TOURIST  TYPE  OF  SHOWING  SOME  ANCIENT  ARTIFACTS  MAY  COME  ABOUT;  FOR  BEING  THE  WEALTHIEST  AND  MOST  CORRUPT  CITY  AND  POWERFUL  CITY  IN  THE  WORLD,  YOU  ARE  LOOKING  AT  LEAST  100  YEARS,  IF  IT  EVER  COMES  EVEN  CLOSE  TO  FULFILLING  THIS  DREAM  OF  THIS  WRITER.


Two years later, in January 2011, I pointed readers of my blog to another New York Times story, headlined "A Triage to Save the Ruins of Babylon." "The Babylon project is Iraq's biggest and most ambitious by far, a reflection of the ancient city's fame and its resonance in Iraq's modern political. and cultural heritage," the article reported, noting that "in November, the State Department announced a new $2 million grant to begin work to preserve the site's most impressive surviving ruins "4


ANSWER:  I  DOUBT  THAT  $2  MILLION  WAS  EVER  GIVEN,  BECAUSE  OF  THE  AMERICAN  NEEDS  FOR  GETTING  ITSELF  BACK  INTO  VIBRANT  JOBS  AND  ECONOMY  ONCE  MORE.  IT  SURE  WAS  NOT  ON  THE  NEWS  IN  2012  OR  2013  SO  FAR.  I  THINK  OBAMA  HAS  MUCH  MORE  PRESSING  THINGS  ON  HIS  MIND  THAN  SOME  OLD  BROKEN  DOWN  ANCIENT  CITY  THAT  IS  JUST  RUINOUS  BRICKS  AND  DECAY.


The article also reported that "the American reconstruction team has refurbished a modern museum on the site, as well as a model of the Ishtar Gate that for decades served as a visitors' entrance. Inside the museum is one of the site's most valuable relics: a glazed brick relief of a lion, one of 120 that once lined the processional way into the city. The museum, with three galleries, is scheduled to open this month, receiving its first visitors since 2003. And with new security installed, talks are underway to return ancient Babylonian artifacts from the National Museum in Baghdad."5


ANSWER:  AND  A  HUGE  AMOUNT  OF  STOLEN  ITEMS  HAVE  DISAPPEARED  OR  BEEN  VANDALIZED.  FROM  WHEN  THIS  AUTHOR  WROTE  THIS  ARTICLE  IN  JAN/FEB 2013  THERE  HAS  BEEN  NO  NEWS  ON  ANY  SIGNIFICANT  REBUILDING  OF  ANY  NEW  MODERN  BABYLON.  IF  WOULD  TAKE  DECADES  AND  BILLIONS  OF  DOLLARS.  BUT  MAYBE  THE  AUTHOR  THINKS  GOOD  OLD  BILL  GATES  WILL  THROW  IN  10  BILLION  DOLLARS  OR  SO.  DO  NOT  HOLD  YOUR  BREATH  FOR  THAT  GIFT.


Clearly, Bible prophecies are coming to pass. Babylon is rising again.


ANSWER:  YES  IT  IS  RISING  -  IN  EUROPE  -  THE  MODERN  LAST  RESURRECTED  HOLY  ROMAN  EMPIRE - GOVERNED  BY  THE  WHORE  CHURCH - THE  MYSTERY  BABYLON  THE  GREAT.  NOW  THAT  IS  INDEED  FORMING  RIGHT  BEFORE  YOUR  EYES  WITH  THE  ASSYRIAN  GERMANS  LEADING  THE  WAY,  AND  SPEARING-HEADING,  WHAT  ONE  DAY  WILL  SHAKE,  RATTLE,  AND  ROLL,  SOME  ARAB  NATIONS,  AND  THE  NATIONS  OF  THE  WEST.  IT'S  THE  END  TIME  BABYLON  WITH  ITS  FALSE  PROPHET  AND  MILITARY  BEAST,  WHO  WILL  USHER  IN  THE  GREATEST  TRIBULATION  PERIOD  OF  HISTORY  THAT  MAN  HAS  EVER  SEEN.


Excerpt taken from Implosion © 2012 by Joel C. Rosenberg. 


Joel C. Rosenberg is a New York Times bestselling author with more than 2.5 million copies in print. An evangelical Christian, he is the cofounder and president of the Joshua Fund, providing humanitarian relief in Israel. 


I.Jeffrey Gettleman, "Babylon Awaits an Iraq Without Fighting" - New York Times, April 18,2006.


2. Ali Abdul Ameer Allawi (Iraqi finance minister), interview with the author, April26,2006.

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