Saturday, September 13, 2014


Thanks Keith have had a look [New Testament Bible Story]
Hope you don't mind me asking you questions and picking your brains.

Q.You state that it was a Wednesday crucifixion. But you don't mention which was the actual day when Jesus road into Jerusalem.

Answer***The context of John 12 is the answer.... well only  to  a  point, as  you'll  see.

Q.It is my understanding that he rode in on the 10th of Nisan to coincide with the choosing and bringing in of the Passover lamb into the temple. 

***You need to forget about any teaching that Jesus rode in on the 10th to coincide with the Passover lambs into the Temple. That is all wrong teaching, as nothing in the Bible
teaches such a teaching. The true Passover observing did not have lambs brought into the Temple. The true Passover was a "domestic household Passover" - nothing to do with the Temple. All explained in-depth on my many Passover studies, which will take a long time to read and absorb.  

Q.However if this is the case, it would mean that he rode on a sabbath and the people cut down palm branches.
Which would go against Deut 5:12-14. And Exodus 16:29 where you or your donkey aren't to work.
Could you shed any light on this for me?

***Jesus would not have rode the donkey on the Sabbath as you bring out.

Q. Also in john 12 it says that 6 days before Passover Jesus came to Bethany. Do you know if the Passover John is referring to is the 14th or 15th as some people when speaking of unleavened bread refer to it as Passover.

***John is referring to the true Passover that Jesus and his disciples and true people of God would observe. That year of 30 A.D. Tuesday evening.

Q. The reason I ask is because some people say 6 days before is the 8th others the 9th. John 12:12 tells us that the next day was the triumphal entry. Which I have always thought as the 10th.
But the way I count 6 from Passover would put it on the 8th which would mean Jesus rode on the 9th which doesn't seem to fit the rest if the timeline.

***6 days before the Passover and supper being given, would be the evening of the Wednesday as we would think.  Wednesday to Thursday evening is one day, Friday evening  2 days, Sat evening is 3 days, Sun evening is 4 days,  Mon evening is 5 days, Tues evening would be the start of 6 days. It says the next day Jesus rode into Jerusalem.  He was in Bethany 6 days before Passover - true Passover of the beginning of the 14th.   6 days later is Tuesday evening. John 12 "the next day" - this was after supper the evening before. "Next day" could refer to the daylight part that followed the night, hence could still be Wednesday; but "next day" could refer to Thursday, if think of after the supper day of 24 hours.

Q. When counting 6 days are you supposed to include the Passover day as 1 bringing you to the 9th or was John referring to Passover as the whole feast so actually counting from the first of unleavened.

***No John is meaning to the real beginning of the 14 Passover - Tuesday evening. Wednesday evening for supper in Bethany to Tuesday Passover evening is 6 days, well the beginning of the 6th day, so often we speak in such general language.  The phrase "next day" is either Wednesday daylight part or Thursday daylight part.  Why did not the Gospel writer give day dates, like "on the 8th of the month" or  on the 9th of the month" - they could have easily done so. Answer - God is not concerned about "dates" for the supper in Bethany or when Jesus rode the ass into Jerusalem.  The exact day and time riding into Jerusalem is not important to God, what took place is the important point. So do not get bogged down with exact chronology of "dates" on a calendar to the lead up of the Passover Jesus observed with his disciples. Many I know like to print out charts..... it is foolish to try and do so per se. We are given events that is the main thing.  We  certainly know Jesus would not use the donkey to ride into Jerusalem on a Sabbath as you pointed out.

Q. One last set of questions, the women. They buy spices on the 16th, why did they not go to the tomb that day?

***They bought spices AFTER the UB Sabbath, which was a Thursday, they bought them on Friday. I guess the time to buy and prepare took them to the beginning of the weekly Sabbath, a rest day. It is stated they rest the Sabbath according to the commandment - 4th commandment, weekly Sabbath. They were up and on their way while dark, very anxious to get to the tomb, as John brings out 20:1.

Q.In the story of Lazarus 3 days dead is very smelly, so why not go early,
Do spices take a long time to prepare?

***Yes I guess so.

Q. And as you said in you teachings nicodemus and Joseph had used a lot of spices when they wrapped him. Why did the women need to do it again?

***Aloe is a good preserver, but now you have to take into account the emotions of women, different than men, the men had given up, the ladies bless them had not.
Remember also they had no idea if they could roll away the stone or if the guards would roll it away for them. They had FAITH, bless them, the men had given up!
They wanted to go and preserve the body just as long as they could. Yes they figured the aloe etc. would have done okay for 3 days - Lazarus had none of that preserving, just the 
wrappings around him, 3 days yes he would have begun to stink. Jesus also lost most of his blood in dying, hence not as quick decomposing looking on the physical side of it. Flesh with no or very little blood does not decompose as quickly; blood not moving through the body would start to rot quicker, then with all the 100 pounds of aloe, which is a healing ointment would have help preserve also. Then also remember it was foretold Jesus' body would see no corruption [in the Psalms] - miracle working by the Father also :-) But of course the women were not thinking of that, they were going on the physical and emotional love to preserve the body as long as possible, again bless them.

Thank you once again for all your years of searching, so other like myself can get a better understanding of the truth

I look froward to hearing your take on these events.

***Hope this clears it up for you. But make sure that in time you study all of my studies on the Passover. Would like to put this up on my blog if you do not mind for the benefit of others.

Give little time to "chronology" as Paul told Titus., well actually "genealogies" but chronology can also waste a lot of time.  Forget about all those people on Youtube etc. who love to throw up charts on this and that; it makes them look "clever" and "scholastic" while they are mostly out in left field and as I often say, from planet Pluto [for me Pluto is still a planet :-)].  There  is also  inclusive  counting  or  ex-cluisive  counting  when  you  try  to  figure  this  section.  Once  more  that  could  give  a  problem;  so  again  it  bears  saying  God  is  not  trying  to  focus  you  on  any   importance  per  se  to  "dates"  on  a  calendar,  it  was enough  to  just  give  you  the  basic  form  of  the  time  element.  The  more  important  point  of  teaching  is  what  Jesus  said,  He  would  be  three  days  and  three  night  in  the  grave [Mat.12:40]  as  the  only  sign  He  would  give  them  who  asked  for  a  sign.  And  that  sign  does  NOT  fit  with  the  pagan  Easter  observance  introduced  by  the  church  of  Rome  in  the  second  century  A.D.  And  all  that  truth  is  fully  expounded  in  studies  on  my  website.

Q.I have taken into account what you have said, but probably my wrong teaching again, I thought days and dates were important to God. Which is why he told them to keep them at there appointed time. 

Answer***Did not mean to say dates and times are not important to God, they are WHEN he gives them to us, especially in relation to the Sabbath and his festival dates on certain dates of his calendar. But he gives then the exact dates and times for what is really important to him.  So that is the big difference. Sorry to confuse you on that point.
So on date of his festivals they are MIGHTY IMPORTANT, BUT HE MAKES SURE HE GIVES THEM TO US.

Q. If days aren't important does this mean we don't have to keep the sabbath on a Saturday


Q. And are we ok to celebrate Passover at Easter like most Christians, or should we keep it on the same date as Jesus?

***VERY IMPORTANT TO GOD we keep Passover and NOT Easter, on the 14 of the first month in his calendar. The true Christians did so as Church history points out; there was a huge debate with Polycarp a disciple of John  the  apostle, in the second century A.D. who went to Rome to debate the matter with what was eventually  to  be  the  Roman Catholic church, and to say he was taught by John to observe the death of Jesus on the 14 of the Hebrew 1st month.  Later the disciple of Polycarp, Polycrates  did the same thing with the bishop of Rome, but Rome went with Easter. 

Q. I know you have probably got a teaching on this, so just point me to the title and I'll give it a read 

***Yes I have the detailed teaching under "Sabbath and Feast verses Pagan one" scroll down you find it all. "Passover/Easter debate in Britain" And "Quartodecim Controversy"
I believe I have a study  under "History" section  called  "Rome overcame Culdee church"  that  includes  the  Passover easter debate.

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