All About God #2
At least what God tells us about Himself
by Keith Hunt GOD IS OMNI-PRESENT God is NOT a universe nothingness floating around in a no where state of being. He is not a NONE-PERSONAL, intangible - NOTHING. He is NOT some universal mind, that has no body. He is NOT a principle of abstract power that is in every kind of matter. God is a personal BEING with a body, with form and shape, but made of "spirit" which we in the flesh can hardly conceive of, because we cannot see "spirit" unless God decides that we should see it. God is a very real personage, with a very real "spirit" or "spiritual" body (1 Cor. 15....the second Adam - Christ - was made a quickening Spirit. See my study called "Jesus - The Spirit!"). Angels, animals, beings, things, in God's dimensional world are as literal as people and things are in our world. As humans and things in our world take up space and can only be in one place at one time, so it is no different in God's dimensional world of spirit, trying to put it so you can get the idea. People in this material world can only be in one place at one time. It is the same for God, Christ, and all the angels, cherubim, seraphim, horses, chariots and whatever else God has created in and for His world. We have seen that God often flies around the universe on a special created throne, with creatures and other strange (to us they sound strange) things as part of this, shall be say universe space ship or chariot transporter (see again the first chapter of Ezekiel as well as chapter 10 of that book). God could do it, move around the universe as the speed of thought, and sometimes I think He indeed does, but God is like us (for we were made in His image), He likes space machines or space cars shall be call them. It's fun to ride in such contraptions, for us, so why should it not be for God also. God is the maker of variety. One simple reason for variety is so life does not become monotone and doing things like travelling the universe the same old way all the time. All spirit beings, including God, can ONLY be in ONE place at ONE time, as far as they themselves, bodily. They are like us in that regard. God then cannot be omni-present in BODY. His body cannot be everywhere in the universe at the same time. God made angels and other creatures to help run the universe, be in different parts, relate back to Him what was happening here or there. God did not choose to make Himself some kind of huge TV screen that would show Him all that was going on anywhere in the universe. Sure He could have done it that way, but He chose NOT to. He decided angels and other creatures would be a part of His world with responsibilities, and some of those responsibilities was to report back to the Eternal God, with things of importance. I cover this in more detail in the study called "God's Omnipresence" in this section of studies on God. God is personally dwelling in a place called heaven. He does not dwell anywhere and everywhere, for He is a very real personal being, just as you are a personally being. Jesus addressed His Father and referred to Him as being in heaven. Eighteen times He said, "Father which is in heaven (Mat.5: 16, 45, 48; etc.). Not one single verse ever refers to God as being bodily everywhere. I will say it again, God is omni-present but NOT omni-body. His presence can be felt by mortal mankind or immortal created beings who many be anywhere in the universe, but His body cannot be seen by them in every place at the same time. God does have a body and goes from place to place just like any other being with a body goes from place to place, one place at one time. PRESENCE can have more than just one meaning. When it comes to using this word with the context of God, the word has THREE meanings. ONE. Presence is governed by RELATIONSHIP, and not bodily presence only. All loved ones know that the presence of those loved can be felt though thousands of miles may separate them. The closer two persons are to each other the closer the presence of each can be felt among them. So it is with God and His children. God is in heaven and those who are His children in spirit and truth, can feel His presence each day of their lives as they live in union with Him. In that sense, with this meaning of the word "presence" we can understand the verse of Scripture that speak of God filling the whole earth and heavens. In Ps. 139: 7 the psalmist said, "...whither shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence?" God said to Jeremiah, "Do not I fill heaven and earth?" (Jer. 23: 3-4). The apostle Paul said, "In Him we live and move, and have our being" (Acts 17: 27-28). Yes the above verses can also apply to the next meaning of presence when we use it with God. But, it is also a fact that presence is governed by relationship, and not just bodily presence or contact. God of course can make His presence felt on a more infinitely larger scale than mankind can. But it is the same basic principle at work for both God and mankind, under this first meaning of the word presence. Those who do not know God, those who ignore Him, deny Him, want to have nothing to do with Him, do not realize or feel His presence. TWO. God can have His presence felt and be in the whole universe through His miracle of the Holy Spirit. Mankind does not have anything to use or compare to what God can use through His Holy Spirit. It is His nature, His power, to do whatever He wills anywhere in the universe all at the same time if He so wishes. The Holy Spirit of God is NOT a "third person" of the Godhead. Please see my study on the Holy Spirit in this section under "All About God." We could ask the question as to whether God's Spirit is moving around on Venus, or Pluto, or at the bottom of the deepest part of our oceans. Of course God can put His Spirit anywhere, but unless He has a reason to do so, there may be many parts of the universe where His Spirit is not specifically there, for the reason He is not wanting it there or doing anything in that location, but letting the normal forces of His creation work their work as He created and set them to work. Then, remember God has angels, maybe millions of them, who are out there in the vast universe maybe, checking on things, working, taking note, and reporting back to the Almighty, things that need to be reported to Him. As we know there are also fallen angels or demons as we now call them, doing mischief where they can, and how they can, we also know (from many passages in the Bible) the universe is a very busy place. We probably would be shocked to see how busy it is if we were allowed to see this mainly unseen world around us. God no doubt sends His Spirit, or jumps in His universe travelling chariot, to do whatever work needs to be done, when it needs either His Spirit or He Himself to personally do that work. There really is no need to think that God's Spirit is ALWAYS EVERYWHERE at the same time in the universe. It sure could be, but God does not need it to be everywhere all at the same time, every second of existence. God through His Spirit, does exist and is present with each individual child of His on this earth, at any time in history, and any where, and at the same time. But His bodily Self is still in heaven (if He is not personally in another part of the universe for some reason). He bodily cannot be everywhere at the same time, that is one of the major reasons He created angels and other beings. When God created the physical material universe, He needed other responsible beings to help Him rule it all, govern it all. Sure He could have created a material universe that "ran itself" - with no help from anyone ever to be needed, except the two members of the Godhead and His Spirit, but then that would have been little fun, and really no challenge....quite boring actually. All of this that I'm saying may take many by surprise and to some it may sound like blaspheme to talk about God in this manner. But the fact is there is so much in the Bible that God wants us to KNOW about Himself, and when we will just let those verses speak for themselves, our picture of the true God and what He is like, and what He has done, and what He is doing, and the WAY He is doing it, will give us a picture that is vastly different than what most have in their mind about God. Most have this image of a nothingness universal power of nothingness, and so have never come to know God in a very personal way, because they will not let Him be a real personal BEING, that has willed Himself not to be a something that cannot be understood, but to be much more like mankind in CERTAIN ways than mankind has ever understood Him to be. And that my friends should make you LOVE Him more and more, and have a much deeper personal relationship with Him, and Jesus who literally sits at His right hand in the heavenly throne room, in a heavenly city called Jerusalem. THIRD. The word presence as used with God, can mean of course, His literal bodily presence, either in His glorified power form (which to look upon His face by humans would instantly kill them), or in His flesh and bone body, if wanting to come and walk and talk and eat a meal with any of His children on earth. Now, with some of the thoughts I've covered above, please be sure to see my study under this section called "The Omni-presence of God." And some of what is covered under omni-presence leads us smoothly into the subject of God being Omniscient - having ALL knowledge. GOD IS OMNISCIENT Once more people jump off in their minds over this matter, do not or are not willing to let God speak to them in His word about how we are to understand this word "omniscient" in the context of God. Those with the view of mind that God is a huge nothingness, have just as much vagueness of mind about God's omniscience as they do about His omni-presence. They more often than not just shrug their shoulders and walk away muttering things like, "You cannot understand God, so why attempt to." The fact is again that God has spoken in His word many times about Himself and this subject of omniscience as He has directed and willed it for Himself. The Bible makes many simple statements that show us God has WILLED Himself to be LIMITED in KNOWLEDGE! That statement of mine will probably shock many. But it is a fact of a number of Bible verses. If we do not take them for what they say, as showing us some truths about God that He Himself wants to TELL us about what He has willed for Himself, then we can do with other verses whatever we will, and make the Bible say anything we want it to say, according to our "interpreting" whatever we want out of any verses in the Bible. If we take these verses I shall give you, as just figurative, then what else is "just" figurative, maybe God Himself is just figurative....and so some agnostics and unbelievers so scoff at the idea of a personal God and an inspired Word of His that Christians call the Bible. Now look at these verses and simply believe them for what they say. Gen. 6: 5, 6. God willed Himself to NOT know how His physical creation of man and woman would end up, and when He then saw how Satan and the human mind could get so low and so evil, He was sorry, GRIEVED at heart (yes God has many emotions that we humans have because God made mankind in His own image after His own likeness), and "it repented" (as the KJV reads) the Lord, that He had made mankind. Ge. 11: 5-8. The Lord CAME DOWN to see, for Himself, what was going on with man and this tower they were building. WHEN He saw it and knew the plans and minds of mankind, as for why they were building it, He THEN took a course of action accordingly. Ge. 18: 21. God had heard, the cry of it had got back to Him (He had created angels to see things, report things to Him), and He said He would GO DOWN and see IF it really was as bad as had been reported to Him. If it WAS, THEN He would know for Himself in a very real personal way, that His angels reported it very well. All of this shows God has WILLED Himself NOT to know everything that goes on in the earth and the universe. It shocks some, they do not want to believe these clear verses and what God is teaching us about Himself. But the verses are there, and they say what they mean and they mean what they say. Stop and think for a moment. How would you like to KNOW EVERYTHING, all at the same time, in all places of the universe, what is happening and what will happen every single day for all eternity. You just know it all way in advance. What kind of a sameness and even yes, I will say it, BORING, kind of a life would that be, and for all eternity. You may not agree, but I think to have it that way, would be a boring kind of life. And here comes all this knowledge just hitting you from all corners of the universe, all at the same time, and even things thousands of years yet to take place, and you are supposed to absorb it and make millions of plans and thought for all this. Just is not very real to me or logical to my mind, and Paul did say we can look at the creation and come to understand God. Mankind was made in the image of God. God has put in us kind of automatically, a LIMITED knowledge, as used on a daily basis. Well, as shocking as it may sound, God also LIMITED Himself. He WILLED Himself if you will, to NOT KNOW EVERYTHING that would take place at any one time on any location on earth. Now, yes God can know some things in ADVANCE, IF He so wills Himself to know. He can plan a specific many thousands of years in advance, and bring it all to pass, just as He willed it. The Bible is full of such things like that. Jesus was to come to the earth to die for the sins of mankind, EVEN BEFORE the world's foundations were built. That is taught in the New Testament. Yes, all of this kind of thing God can do, IF He so wills it. And yet at the same time can not God WILL Himself to NOT know certain things, if He wills it? Why of course He can! If we believe the one, because the Bible tells us it is so, then why cannot we believe the other, for the Bible also tells us it is so. God is ALL KNOWLEDGABLE, in as far as He as WILLED Himself to know, and no further. Look up and read in context these other verses: Gen. 22: 12; 2 Chron. 16: 9; Zech. 4: 10; Job 12: 22; 24: 23; Ps. 7: 9; 44: 21; Ps. 139: 1-6; Prov. 24: 12; Jer. 17: 10; Ezek. 11: 5; Rom. 8: 27; 1 Thes. 2: 4). As you read the Bible from cover to cover, keep in mind what I have said, and you will see that God does teach us that He is all knowing to the point of what He has WILLED Himself to know, at any given time in the history of the earth and the universe. BACK TO THE ANGELS FOR A MOMENT God does not do everything Himself as a person. Angels, and certain ones have different ranks, or responsibilities, to do or look after certain things in the universe. They report to Him on various happening going on here or there, and certainly going on in different places on the earth (see Dan. 10: 13-21; 11: 1; 12: 1; Zech. 1: 7-11; 6: 1-8; Mat. 18: 10-11; Heb. 2: 4). God sends out His messengers throughout the whole of His vast creation to govern, do battle with evil forces of Satan, to take note of happenings, to serve His physical children on earth, to relate messages to them at times, to give them understanding of visions and dreams, to bring them words of prophecies to write down or for them to go out and tell cities or nations what God has to say. God is chairman, president, owner, director, of a un-imaginable (to our human minds), busy and literal, universal company. He has created maybe billions (maybe billions, we don't know how many) of personal employees, to help Him run, and maintain, and guide His holdings, which are everything, even the demonic world belongs to Him, in the sense that He could obliterate them with the word of His mouth, if He so decided to do. This earth and all the happenings from Adam and Eve, to the vast world of the unseen (for the most part) angels and all that is going on between them as evil ones fighting righteous ones (see the book of Daniel for that truth), need many helping hands to keep it all going. Well put it this way, God has WILLED or CHOSEN that it be this way, run with many helping hands. Many Scriptures show all this. Here are some. But you keep all this in mind as you read through the Bible, and you will find more: Ge. 18: 21; 22; Dan.10: 13-21; 11: 1; 12: 1; Zech. 1: 7-11; 6: 1-8; Mat. 18: 10-11; Heb. 1: 14; 2: 2; Rev. 1: 1-7; 7: 1-3; 8: 2-13; 9: 1; 14: 6-20: 15: 1-8; 16: 1-21; 18: 21; 22: 6, 8-9, 16). There is more on this subject of God's omniscience, as we read through the whole Bible. If we will but just read it and let it teach us, correct us, tells us about the reality of God, then we can come to know what God has told us about Himself in His word. There are about 6,500 commands in the Bible regulating man as to his part in the eternal plan of God, and setting forth man's responsibility to God and to fellow mankind. There are about 1,260 promises of curses and blessings, rewards or loss of rewards. There are hundreds of warnings, curses, blessings and dealings of God on the basis of conformity to His will. There are about 1,500 "if's" and hundreds of conditional requirements of God throughout the Bible. Sufficient proof is all this, to show that God DOES NOT CAUSE ALL acts and events by His own decrees - and sufficient proof that He CHANGES His own dealings with men, as they conform or refuse to conform to His will. All this goes to prove and to show to us, that God does NOT KNOW what any one man will do, in his lifetime (God may know some things, may decree some things that a certain man will do at a certain point, if it is to specifically bring to pass a part of God's plan), as a general rule. Then multiply this with all the different kinds of types and dispositions of men and women and all the different situations they may face or find themselves in over a life time, and you can see why God has willed Himself not to know all these things all the time. God has shown to us that in the MAIN, man is a free moral agent (unless God has a specific thing in mind for a specific man at a specific time, even then it is not anything to do with final salvation, but only for that present specific time - Romans 9 is an example of this), who has freedom to decide. And God has in the most part willed Himself not to know in advance what any man may decide under the situation of his life at a given point, to do. It is contrary to the OVERALL of the Bible to think that God knows or even would like to know, ALL acts and all particular events of all vast creations of free moral agents from all eternity past; or that He has fixed and determined decrees choosing and predestinating all thought, acts, and deeds, of free wills of all people, and creations, from eternity past to all eternity future. If you are wondering about the subject of "predestination" then you will find a study on this topic on this Website. Do not misunderstand all that I have said above. God's eternal plan for man from the beginning to the end and what He plans to bring to pass on earth, the plan for mankind, He has the power to so bring to pass and do. But, as concerning the free actions of free moral agents such as mankind, in the main, He does not know from all eternity past what they will do BEFORE they are in existence and are here to have a part in His plan. He does NOT know in advance which ones will be saved and which ones will be lost in the lake of fire. He has a plan for ALL to be given a full and fair chance for salvation and to conform to His will, but He does not know in advance who will accept and conform, who will remain faithful to the end and be saved into the Kingdom, or who will reject His gift of salvation through Christ, or who will fall away somewhere along the straight and narrow pathway that leads to eternal life. It is God's PLAN that He has formulated that was known to Him from the beginning, even before the world was made, not the individual conformity to it by free moral agents. God wills, wishes that all mankind be saved, that none be lost to hell fire, but if man chooses to NOT be saved and conform to God's will, then God can do nothing to prevent what man freely chooses. I have written much on the vital subject of being called and chosen, on salvation, and on a Christian's destiny. All on this Website, as well as the late Dr. Atkinson's studies on death, resurrection, and reward of the wicked. GOD IS OMNIPOTENT - ALL POWERFUL Once more, WITHIN God's realm and His operations, His sphere in which He does not and cannot operate, God is indeed ALL powerful. These words, will I think, become quite clear to us as we proceed. Yes, there are certain THINGS God CANNOT DO! We must be sensible when we consider God and the word we attach to Him as being omnipotent. As we read the Bible we will, or we should put this word "omnipotent" automatically into a context that God can only work within. When it comes to creation, God is all powerful and all authoritative. He brought the universe into being with the command and work of His will, and the NT shows us that He brought it and all of creation into being from nothing. At one time there was no physical matter nor was there any created angelic beings. Then at some point God brought the spirit angelic beings into existence and so also the material universe, all from nothing but His will of wanting it to be. He has total power over all that He has created. If it was His will, to reverse the pattern and have it all back as it was before - nothing, He could just speak and it would be so. God is all powerful when it comes to His overall plan for His creation. There is nothing and there is no one (Satan the Devil included), that can thwart or stop God's will for bringing to pass His plan for mankind and the whole created universe. He only ALLOWS certain things to happen that Satan and the fallen angels do in order to mess up God's overall purposes. He could obliterate them all if He so wished, with the command of His voice. But, God has, because He has willed His plan to be so, limited Himself in His dealing with free moral agents like those of the human race. He must respect their free will, and gives them the right to act of their own free choice to conform to His will and consecrate themselves to His righteousness or to reject His will and reject His righteousness. He has given laws and commandments whereby they should live and conduct their lives, and has given rewards in this life and that which is to come for those who will live and work His will. Also He has given rewards to those you will not serve and obey and conform to His will, as the apostle Paul put it, "the wages of sin is death" (Rom. 6: 23). But He forces no one to come to Him and obey His will. He calls them, and gives to them knowledge of the truths of His life, through the power of the Holy Spirit, but He forces no one to act on that knowledge. He has willed Himself to not have authoritative power to force any of His created free will creations to serve and conform to His righteousness. They must decide and choose His way of life for themselves. God has all power in things He can have all power in and over. But God cannot lie (Heb. 6: 17-19). He cannot deny Himself, or act contrary to His own eternal truths (2 Tim. 2: 13). He cannot have respect of persons (Rom. 2: 11; Col. 3: 25; 2 Peter 1: 17). He cannot save a soul apart from faith and grace in Christ (Rom. 3: 25; John 3: 16; Eph. 2: 8-9; Acts 4: 12). He cannot save rebels who refuse Him and persist in living contrary to His will and meet His terms for salvation (Prov. 1: 22-23; 29: 1). God cannot be tempted with evil or tempt any man with evil (James 1: 13-15). He cannot save anyone who turns back to a life of sin and lives in rebellion to His known commandments (Ezek. 3: 17-21; 18: 4-24; 33: 7-16; Mark 7: 19-21; Rom. 1: 21-23; 6: 16-23; 8: 12-13; Gal. 5: 19-21; 6: 7-8; Col.3: 5-10). Now, do we see how God limits His power to conform to His own predetermined plan for mankind. Yes, God is all powerful, but He must limit His power to stay within His own righteousness and His own will on how He has willed for some things to operate. We often think of God's infinite LOVE, MERCY, LONG-SUFFERING, KINDNESS, FATHERHOOD, GRACE, CARE, BLESSINGS, but all of these and other attributes are limited, because of the framework that He has decreed for their use. He is indeed infinite in say, MERCY and GRACE, or FORGIVENESS, but only to those who conform to the conditions to receive those infinite attributes of Himself and His character. He cannot be infinitely showing mercy and forgiveness to those who wilfully rebel and sin against Him (Heb. 10: 26-31). GOD IS As we read through the whole Bible, as we take note of what God teaches us throughout all His Holy Word, as we believe what we read about what God tells us about Himself, we will come to see and understand Him for what He is, a God that is very PERSONAL, a literal BEING, with a form and shape that is like unto mankind, for mankind was made in His likeness. We shall come to see and understand that He has all the emotions that we humans have, but kept in perfect sinless control, even when He gets angry, or when He must punish or correct. We shall come to see, as we read His word, that His omnipresence, omniscient quality, omnipotent power, is governed by what He has Himself WILLED for Himself, and also in accordance to His set conditions that free willed mankind must conform to. We shall come to see that God governs Himself according to what He pre-determined would be His plan for creating all that He decided to create. What a wonderful God and Father we have. Both He and His Son Jesus Christ, are very personal beings. They want you to have a very real personal experience with THEM. The more you study God's Word, the more you pray and meditate (with occasional fasting), the more you will get to KNOW them. There is a great deal that God reveals to us about Himself in His word. Yes, some things we will look through a glass darkly, as Paul once said, but the day is coming when we shall even KNOW those things as we are known. But there is a lot in the Bible that God wants us to KNOW NOW, so get busy and READ IT! You will be glad you did. ............................... Written 2003 |
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