Friday, August 21, 2020

NOAH'S FLOOD---- WAS NOT GLOBAL! #2

Noah's Flood - Universal? #4


Still more reasons it was not



                     Written and compiled


                             by 


                         Keith Hunt



THE ARK,

ITS SIZE AND PURPOSE


     Woodrow in his book asks the questions if you can for

certain know how large the ark was, did it take 120 years to

build, and if the flood was REGIONAL were there some people in

other parts of the world who were not effected by that flood?


     Genesis 6:15 gives the dimensions of the ark 300 cubits

long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high. Some say that was

proportionally ideal - being six times as long as wide. 

     The problem arises with knowing how many inches to the cubit

it was back in Noah's day, or Moses day, as it was Moses who is

held by most scholars as writing the first five books of the

Bible.

     If we go with 18 inches to the cubit, then the dimensions

would be as Woodrow states, 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45

feet high.


     Woodrow suggests that the door way would not have been over

13 feet high, because dividing the three levels would give 15

feet to each level. with this calculation Woodrow says there had

to be large supporting beams to hold the weight of each level,

hence the doors ways would be, or could be, about 13 feet in

hight. This would of course mean large Elephants and Giraffes

would not be able to go through the door ways as Woodrow

suggests.

     But the problem with this reasoning is that the top floor

may have been open at first and a ramp may have been built to

allow these huge animals to ascend to the top of the ark and then

a ramp could have been built to have them descend to a floor that

did not have to have a doorway at all. After all the animals were

in that top shaft door closed tight, so no other humans could

have a way into the ark.


     Now if as Woodrow suggests the cubit in past ages differed

and was smaller than 18 inches in length during Noah's time, then

of course a smaller ark would have been built, which if it was

only for a regional flood would have sufficed. Woodrow quotes

from Harper's Bible Dictionary these words: 

  

"Metrology (the science of measurement of mass, length, and time)

presents a confused picture in Palestine ... and the peripheral

countries ... Not even well-grounded Babylonian metrology adhered

to the same standard throughout its history. In the matter of

weights and measures, the Hebrew people were influenced by

Babylonian, Egyptian, Canaanite-Phoenician, and Greco-Roman

systems ... With the coming of each new conqueror, and with every

fresh trend in trade, weights and measures continued to vary."


     Woodrow gives proof from the Bible itself that a cubit may

have varied in length at times and in different ages. Esther

5:14; 7:9 shows the gallows which Haman was to be hanged on was

50 cubits, and so if we go with 18 inches for a cubit the gallows

was 75 feet high. Either it was built with a high foundation as

to make sure everyone from a far distance could see Haman get

hanged, or the cubit was much less than 18 inches during the time

of Esther.


     Woodrow does SPECULATE with things in this section of his

study, but he does admit it is only "speculation." He wonders

that if the ark was 450 long how it could have been built as the

tallest tree in the world is a California Coast Redwood at 366.2

feet.

     Once more I will say that looking at what is TODAY does not

mean it was that way in Noah's time. Maybe there were trees

taller than the tallest trees of today in existence during Noah's

life time, or there were ways of building ships back then that

are lost in building today. Science is still amazed at how the

GREAT PYRAMID of Egypt was ever built.


     As Woodrow himself admits, this is all conjecture and

speculation for we simply cannot be certain as to the length of a

cubit in Noah or Moses' time.

     And with all that said, we come back to the conclusion that

none of what we have talked about concerning the size of the ark

can prove a world-wide flood or a regional flood.

   

LENGTH OF TIME IN BUILDING THE ARK?


     Most people have either been taught or have presumed from a

too casual reading of Genesis 6, that Noah was building the ark

for 120 years. Of course this also makes it easy to believe that

the ark was so large that it took 120 to build it. Genesis 6:3

says, "My spirit shall not always strive with man ... yet his

days shall be a hundred and twenty years."

     This is talking about God allowing mankind to continue

living, doing "their own thing" for another 120 years, and then

JUDGMENT would come upon them, if they did not repent of their

wickedness. The "ark" of Noah is not mentioned here. It is not

till later verses AFTER God once more looked upon mankind and saw

their violence that God turned to Noah (who remained faithful to

the Lord) and told him He would destroy the evil doers, but save

him and his wife and three sons and their wives. Then Noah was

told to build the ark.

     Ralph Woodrow has correctly seen that 120 years before the

flood Noah was 480 years old, for at the time of the flood

Genesis tells us Noah was 600 year old - see chapter 7:11. The

sons of Noah had not yet been born. They were born when Noah was

500 years old (Gen.5:32). It was AFTER his sons were born and

married that Noah was told to build the ark. Look what Genesis

6:14-18 says, "Make you an ark ... I do bring a flood of waters

... and you shall come into the ark, you, and your sons, and your

wife, and your sons' wives with you."

     It should now be clear from putting these verses together

that Noah was NOT working on building the ark for 120 years. We

really have no teaching from the Bible any more than this. We

just do not know have long it took Noah to build the ark.


NO RAIN BEFORE THE FLOOD?


     The Bible passage used which supposedly supports this idea

is Genesis 2:4,5.

     "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth

when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the

earth and the heavens, and every plant of the field before it was

in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the

Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was

not a man to till the ground..."


     I have heard this "no rain before the flood" teaching, MANY

times over the last 40 years. It is so used that it is taught

by many as something the Bible is quite certain and dogmatic

about. Many are certain that no rain fell before Noah's flood,

which they say would have made Noah the greatest laughing joke on

the earth, and especially as he was building this wooden ship for

120 years. The people believing and teaching this "no rain"

before Noah doctrine, say that the earth was covered with a type

of water vapor, I guess something like the heavy humidity that is

in Florida, but even more so, because Florida does get rain.

Maybe they think it was a really wet due every night. But

whatever they think the climate of the earth was like before

Noah's flood, they believe Genesis 2:4,5 is teaching that there

was no rain until it started to rain at Noah's flood time.


     But a careful reading of this verse says no such thing. God

created the plants before they were in the earth, that is, before

they were seeded. They were created full grown and mature. And

they were created full grown because there was TILL THEN no rain

upon the earth. God did not create the seeds first and have them

grow up through the action of rain and sun. He created them full

grown plants before it had rained and before man was created.

This was done on the THIRD day (Gen.1:9-13). Yet on the 6th day

mankind was created. 

     All this passage says is that up to the creating of mature

plants and trees, it had not rained.

     The Bible does not say when it first rained, but to try and

use this passage in Genesis 2 as teaching it did not rain until

the time of Noah's flood, is to me, reading into a few verses

things that are not meant to be read into them.


     And another teaching that has often been a part of all the

story telling of Noah's ark is that Noah preached for 120 years

to others to come on board and save themselves. Noah we are told

in the New Testament was a preacher of righteousness, but there

is not one word in either the Old or New Testament that he

preached to others to save themselves by joining him on the ark.

God told Noah that it was he and his wife and his sons and their

wives that had been shown grace to be saved from death, but God

told Noah that He would destroy all the other wicked people, that

and "end" to them was coming (Gen.6:9-13). We are told that God

saw that all others on the "erets" - earth - land - had corrupted

their ways (verse 12). We are given no suggestion that with

Noah's preaching (by word or life) ANY would REPENT. There is

nothing in the Bible to suggest that Noah tried to persuade

others to come on board the ark and save themselves.

   

WERE ALL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE ON THE PLANET DESTROYED?


     The writers of the Bible sometimes wrote in a way that would

make THEIR hub of the world seem like the WHOLE world. Certainly

we can know from the Bible that God worked with people that were

in a particular AREA of the MAIN HUB of a certain progressive

population of the planet. The part of the planet we know and call

as "The Middle East."

     The Gospel of Luke chapter two, verse one, is a fine

example. What was happening in the Roman Empire in Palestine,

concerning "enrollment" (Margin of the KJV Bible), is written as

if ALL THE WORLD should be enrolled. So when Peter wrote in 

1 Peter 3:20, "few, that is, eight souls were saved" in the

ark," it could be assumed he meant only 8 lives were saved from

off the entire planet, but it may have meant that in the context

of the "erets" or land, that Noah lived in, there were only 8

human lives saved from destruction from the flood of Noah's time.

Peter was possibly NOT trying to teach that Noah's flood

destroyed every single human life from the entire planet earth,

with only 8 person escaping that destruction with their lives.

     If the flood was regional and not world-wide, though it

covered a very vast area, it then would not have killed people

thousands of miles away from the land where Noah lived. 

     The Indians in Canada have a recorded history that goes back

10,000 years. Now either the famous chronology of Usher is

completely way off the mark of true chronology, or Noah's flood

was no where near in the century B.C. where it is usually placed

(according to Usher's chronology, which would still mean Usher

was incorrect). Or, it would mean the Indians of North America

were not in the least effected by Noah's flood. Oh, they may have

"stories" about it in their history, but nearly all people have

stories of super magnitude from other parts of the world, in

their history telling. Huge physical tragedies on the earth do

have a way of getting around and becoming stories related in a

nation’s history files, passed on from generation to generation. 

     The Bible is not a history book on all parts of the planet

earth, and the nations of peoples in various parts of this globe,

but is mainly focussed on the area of the Middle East.


     Yet people have been taught by many well meaning and sincere

Christian writers and leaders that the New Testament and Jesus

Himself, were very dogmatic about "the truth" that ALL persons

except 8, on the entire planet were destroyed. The writers of the

book "The Genesis Flood" present the proof for this teaching in

saying that Jesus taught this was true in the passage found in

Luke 17:26-30.

     But as Woodrow in his book on this subject has correctly

stated,"When we turn to this passage, however, it is far from

conclusive that "all" means all people throughout the

entire world."

     The verse reads: "In the days of Noe...they did eat, they

drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the

day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and

destroyed them ALL. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot;

they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted,

they builded; but the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it

rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them

ALL"(Luke 17:26-30).


     Ah, did you notice it? Did you see that Jesus used the word

"all" in both Noah's flood and in the day that Lot went out from

Sodom. In Lot's situation, the "all" we know did not mean ALL on

the ENTIRE planet, for the fire from the Lord that came only

destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. "The Lord rained upon

Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire ... he overthrew those

cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities"

(Genesis 19:24,25). Obviously this "all" did not include the town

Lot fled to, or the other cities and people in the Middle East,

or in China, or the Indian people in North America.


     This verse and these words by Jesus have a CONTEXT, and the

"all" is used WITHIN a CONTEXT of the thought Jesus was relating

to His listeners.

     A newspaper headline may read: "Flight 103 has Crashed - ALL

are Dead!" The "all" here does not mean all people on the planet,

and we do not take it to so mean. We all know the "all" is used

within a certain CONTEXT.


     We must all (pun on all is intended) be careful how we read

"all" as used in the Bible or other literature. The "all" for

Lot's time had a context of not being all people on the planet,

and Jesus used Noah's "all" in the same breath, without any

qualifying words to clearly tell us that Noah's time meant all

people on the whole planet, while Lot's destruction did not.

          

     All then destroyed by the Noah's flood could very well be

the all on the "erets" - land - area where Noah and the hub of

the world of people God was dealing with, was located, and not

anything to do with the Indians of North America.


     I must agree with Ralph Woodrow's examination of verses that

use "world" in connection with the flood; i.e. Hebrews 11:7 and 2

Peter 2:5. The Greek word is "kosmos" and Woodrow gives the

meaning from Strong's Concordance (#2889); "arrangement, i.e.,

decoration, and by implication the world (in a wide or narrow

sense)." 

     I believe as does Woodrow that in the case of Noah's flood,

it is best to understand this Greek word in a narrow sense - not

the entire world. There is a "figure of speech" often used in the

known as "synecdoche," - a whole is used for a part, and a part

for a whole (Bullinger's book "Figures of Speech in the Bible"

explains it all in detail) and so even words like "all" can be

used in a limited sense. I have already given you "all the world

was taxed" (Luke 2:1). Another would be Acts 2:5, "men out of

every nation under heaven" assembled on the day of the feast of  

Pentecost. This surely did not include the Indians from North

America, or the native people of Japan.


NOAH A MISSIONARY TO AMERICA?


     We learn from 2 Peter 2:5 that Noah was a "preacher of

righteousness" - if that means he was preaching the ways and

judgment of God to come, then did Noah travel to the American

continent to preach the way of the Lord and His destructive

judgment to come, if we suppose the flood was going to be

world-wide? I really do not think many believe Noah travelled

outside his land.

     And we do know, if we stay with Usher's chronology for the

creation of mankind, that people were living in China, India, and

North America before the time of Noah's flood, according to

Usher's chronology. I have already said that the Indians in

Canada have a history that goes back 10,000 years, a history way

before Noah' flood, if you stick with how Usher tried to figure

Bible chronology.

      

     And this is one reason to me, as to why God did it this way.

He could have decided to destroy them a hundred different ways.

Noah was to be a witness to them, a preacher of righteousness and

a witness that destruction was coming to his civilization for its

great sins. This was the hub of the world at Noah's time, and

that hub of people had sinned mightily, but some other tribes in

other parts of the world had probably not degenerated in sins as

Noah's society. There is in Scripture no reference to Noah ever

having travelled to distant lands to preach destruction to them

for their great sins. A regional flood would be best fitted for

this context of Noah preaching of righteousness and sin.

     

     As Woodrow says, some who believe in the local flood, say it

was in one sense universal, in that all mankind did perish,

because all mankind was still in that part of the earth. But

today the facts are in, and unless you are closing your eyes and

refusing to admit the facts that have been clearly found, mankind

had wandered to distant lands, including North America.


     As stated before, the Canadian Indians have a recorded

history that goes back 10,000 years. This was all brought out in

the large series of documentaries called "A People's History" -

about the history of Canada. Painstaking research was done for

MANY YEARS before this series was produced and aired on 

Canadian TV.

     

     Was Noah's flood BEFORE 10,000 B.C.? I doubt there is a

fundamental scholar that would be so daring as to claim it was.

     A local flood would solve all these chronology questions.


     Ralph Woodrow points out some of the passages written by the

Jewish Pharisee historian of the first century - Josephus. They

indicate he did not believe every person on the planet perished

in Noah's flood. It is worth recording those passages here.

Josephus writes concerning the words of Nicolaus of Demascus: 


"There is a great mountain in Armenia ... upon which it is

reported that many who fled at the time of the Deluge were saved;

and that one who was carried in an ark came on shore upon the top

of it; and that the remains of the timber were a great while

preserved. This might be the man about whom Moses the legislator

of the Jews wrote" (Antiquities of the Jews - 1957 edition, 1,

3:6).


Josephus goes on to say:


"Now the sons of Noah were three ... these first of all descended

from the mountains into the plains, and fixed their habitation

there; and persuaded others who were greatly afraid of the lower

grounds on account of the flood, and so were very loth to come

down from the higher places, to venture to follow their examples.

Now the plain in which they first dwelt was called Shinar."

(Ibid., 1, 4:1).


     Who might have been those others who were persuaded to come

down from the high places? 

     Woodrow takes us back to Genesis 4 and 5.


EVIDENCE MOST HAVE NEVER NOTICED!


     In the fourth and fifth chapters of Genesis two family lines

are mentioned descending from Adam, the line of which Noah was

part, the other line being Adam, Enoch, etc. and Lamech and his

three sons - Jabal, Jubal, and Tubal-cain.

     Most universal flood teachers would say all these were

destroyed in the flood, that is both lines, except Noah of course

and his three sons, were killed in the flood. As Woodrow points

out, that gives us a problem, for Moses who wrote Genesis speaks 

of descendants of Jabal, Jubal, and Tubal-cain, as STILL LIVING

when he wrote Genesis. 

     Note it: Genesis 4:20-22.


"Jabal ... was the father of such as DWELL in tents, and of such

as HAVE cattle. And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the

father of all such as HANDLE the harp and organ. And...

Tubal-cain, an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron

(Genesis 4:20-22).


     Did you notice it? The writer says "DWELL" not "dwelled" and

they "HAVE" not "had" cattle. They "HANDLE" the harp not

"handled"

     If they had all been killed in the flood, this tense of the

words used would be incorrect!


      Woodrow then gives two quotes, one form the INTERPRETERS

BIBLE which say they were "nomads, musicians, and metal workers

existing at the time of writing." and HASTING'S ENCYCLOPEDIA OF

RELIGION AND ETHICS, which states, "...this wording implies 'an

unbroken history of civilization' and that the writer of this

section did not, obviously, regard the flood as 'a universal

Deluge.'"


     Were some of these descendants of this line of people, the

Indians of Canada and North America that claim they have been in

North  America for at least 10,000 years? Or people closer to

home as when Moses wrote all this, but knowing that some people

in a different area of the known world at the time, had indeed

not been effected by the flood of Noah's day. From the tense of

the words he used it would indeed imply this was the case.


    Genesis 10 tells us how the descendants of Shem, Ham, and

Japheth divided and migrated. or as the Hebrew word used for

"divided" can mean - "dispersed" (Strong's concordance #6504).

     

     Woodrow's thoughts are that the descendants of the three

sons of Noah were dispersed among other nations that were not

effected by the flood. It certainly is food for thought when we

take everything else we have seen into consideration.

     

     There are those who believe that there are great problems

with trying to claim all peoples of the earth descended from

Noah's three sons. One of those problems Ralph Woodrow brings out

in his study is the huge population of some parts of the earth

and its cities, in a very relatively short span of time after

Noah's flood. 

     

LARGE POPULATIONS?


     According to Genesis 10:8-12 we have only three generations

to a mighty area of the world by Nimrod.

     

     A few generations later we have Abraham travelling among

large populations and well developed nations of people. We can

see from Genesis 15:19-21 that Canaan was populated by many

tribes of people. Woodrow points out that 26 cities in Canaan are

mentioned in Genesis at this time in history. He then talks about

what Genesis 12:15 tells us about Egypt and Genesis 14:1-16 about

certain kinds who had captured Lot.

     

     Woodrow calculated for us the time from Shem becoming a

father in Genesis 11 to the time Terah, the father of Abraham,

and it adds up to 222 years. 

     No one is completely sure how old Terah was when Abraham was

born, but even allowing 75 years or so, say a total of 300 years,

from Noah's flood to the birth of Abraham, that time span can

hardly allow for the great nations and cities that we find in

existence at Abraham's time.


     Let's say Shem, Ham, and Japheth each had 76 children

between them, that gives us 76 people on earth, plus Shem, Ham,

and Japheth and their wives (6 of them) - a total of 82 people on

earth for one generation. But pairs for reproduction would be 38

pairs, rounding it off. Say those 38 pairs all had 30 children

(being very generous here for sure), that gives us 1,140 people

plus the 76, and if Shem, Ham, and Japheth and their wives were

still alive, we can add them in also. But let's just take the

1,140 - that gives is 570 pairs for reproduction. If they all had

30 children we would have 17,100 people plus the 1,140, plus the

76, plus the 6, if still all alive back to just after Noah's

flood.

     We could go on like this for a few more generations until

Abraham was born. 

     Not that many people on earth by the time of Abraham, and I

have been very generous I would say with how many children each

couple had, and I did not include some children dying as

children, or from death in other ways.


     The way Genesis reads at the time of Abraham the population

of even just that part of the world reads like a MUCH LARGER

population than could EVER have come from just 8 people left

alive on Noah's ark.


     But the universal flood advocates are at this point very

willing to agree that the chronology in the Bible and that used

by Usher as about 400 B.C. for the creation of mankind, is

FLAWED, or just is not what we should understand as it seems to

read.


WHEN WAS NOAH'S FLOOD?


     As Woodrow says the writers of "The Genesis Flood" book

suggest there may be "gaps of an undetermined length in the

patriarchal genealogy of Genesis."

     They would claim the flood of Noah's time was many centuries

before what appears in the chronology of Genesis. Some hold to an

Hebrew way of saying things, that saying "son of" or "so in so

begat" could mean generations are missed out and only certain

names are mentioned. A kind of "short hand" for what otherwise

would be more pages of boring names and lists of chronology.

     

     To use such "gap" chronology here and not think of using it

from Abraham to David or David to Christ, is to say the least

inconsistent and the worst, trying to make your "theology ideas"

fit the Bible as you choose and when you choose.


     As Woodrow has said in his book on this subject, "The

regional flood viewpoint, on the other hand, can leave

the years from the flood to Abraham exactly as they are - 

without gaps or guesses - allowing that only part of the world's

population was destroyed. This provides a satisfactory

explanation for the existence of developed civilizations only a

few generations after the flood at the time of Abraham."


     Yet, some Christian scholars, in the last 100 years or more,

with all these difficulties of a universal Noah's flood teaching,

have come to say and write that Noah's flood was REGIONAL 

and not universal or world-wide.


     The land that came to be know as Mesopotamia, mainly now

within the country called Iraq, is the largest lowland of the

Middle East, about 45,000 square miles. Some scientists do admit

that there is evidence there to believe at one time a huge

inundation did take place on those plains of Iraq.


     Woodrow quotes from HARPER'S BIBLE DICTIONARY and 

the old well recognized work of M'CLINTOCK AND STRONG to 

add support that it is correct to understand this part of Iraq was covered 

with water at some time in the past, and probably that time was the event

of Noah's flood.


     There are a number of ways God could have flooded that

Mesopotamia region, as Woodrow points out. With earth upheaval

acting as a dam, or with the command of His voice and will as

water "upright as an heap" (Exodus 15:8).

     As the Scriptures say, nothing is impossible with the Lord.

   

OVERVIEW

                     

     With this chapter and the previous ones, it is to me beyond

reasonable doubt to conclude that there was only ONE VIOLENT

UNIVERSAL flood of the entire earth, and that is the one that WAS

OVER AND DONE WITH AS WE ARE BROUGHT ON THE SCENE 

IN GENESIS 1:2.


     This one universal flood destroyed the age of the world of

the Dinosaurs and the huge vegetation that lived in that age. An

interesting point to note here is that scientists say that some

of the great Dinosaurs had such an appetite that they would have

consumed today's elephant for a mid-morning snack. It was so

violent that even all the sea creatures were destroyed. All upon

the earth at that flood was destroyed, hence God had to create

all that we read about in Genesis chapter one. It was the time

when seams of coal, oil, natural gas, were created by the

violence and pressure. It was the time when diamond seams were

formed. It was the time when through much violence the strata we

often see in rocks, such as evident in the great Canadian

Rockies, was formed. So quick and violent was this flood (that

was upon the earth as Genesis 1:2 tells us) that some mighty

animals of that age have been found preserved in some parts of

the world, still with the grass and vegetation in their mouth,

that they were eating when the violent flood covered them.


     What many have tried to attribute to the flood of Noah's

time, was in actual fact done by the violent flood that came upon

the earth through the battle Satan the Devil and his angels had

with the Eternal God and His righteous angels. The scares of this

battle can still be seen on places like the earth's moon and the

planet Mars.


     I have covered this battle and that ancient age in other

studies on my Website. 


                             ................


TO BE CONTINUED


December 2004



Noah's Flood - Universal? #5

In search of Noah's Ark



                       Written and compiled 

                               by


                           Keith Hunt




THE SEARCH FOR NOAH'S ARK


     In chapter five of Ralph Woodrow's book on this subject, he

tells us about the now and again stories and rumors and articles

that appear to state that Noah's ark has been sighted or seem up

upon a mountain in Ararat, preserved in the snow and ice. For a

time, when such stories or articles appear, there is another

effort from the religious wing of part of Christendom to beat the

drum of proclaiming the teaching of a world-wide flood, as they

will claim it was world-wide otherwise the ark would not be up on

top a mountain that is about 17,000 feet high.


     I well remember as a young child in the 50s one of England's

respected national newspapers came out with photos and the story

of a couple of Russian army planes flying over the mountains of

Ararat, and taking photos of what could have been the wooden ark

partially sticking out of the ice and snow. Wow, it all not only

sounded great but did indeed look like it was so, the photos did

show what could have been the bow or stern of a wooden ship

partially protruding out of the snow and ice near the top of a

mountain in the Ararat chain of mountains.

     This story caused a bit of a storm in the religious and none

religious world for a few months, but then it disappeared, it

seems as quickly as it arrived. To this very day, fifty years

later, I've never heard any more about this sighting or the

photos that went with it.

     It does certainly make one wonder how accurate such stories

and reports are, or if they are not all made up from the

imaginations of the human mind and passed down as if they were

fact.


     Woodrow recalls of his reading a religious tract in 1956, on

the supposed fact of Noah's ark having been seen and found. He

gives the story and I will also reproduce it here also.


     The story goes:

          


It is in the days just before the Russian Revolution that this

story begins. A group of us Russian aviators were stationed at a

lonely temporary air outpost situated about 25 miles northwest of

Mount Ararat. The day was dry and terribly hot, as August days so

often are in this semi-desert land. Even the lizards were

flattened out under the shady side of rocks and twigs. Their

mouths were open and their tongues lashed out as if each panting

breath would be their last. Only occasionally would a tiny wisp

of air rattle the parched vegetation and stir up a chocking

cloudlet of dust. Far up on the side of the mountain we could see

a thunder shower, whilst still farther up we could discern the

white snow-cap of Mount Ararat which has snow all the year round

because of its great height. How we longed for some of that snow!


Then the miracle happened. The captain walked in and announced

that plane number 7 had its new supercharger installed and was

now ready for high altitude tests. He then ordered my buddy and

me to make the test. At last we could make our escape from the

heat, so we lost no time in getting on our parachutes, strapping

on our oxygen cans, and in doing the half-dozen other things

needful before going up. We then climbed into the cockpits, and

with our safety belts fastened, a mechanic gave the prop a flick

and yelled, "Contact." In less time than it takes to tell it, we

were in the air! No need to warm an engine when the sun had

already made it almost red hot.

We circled the field several times until we hit the 14,000 foot

mark and then stopped climbing for a few minutes to get used to

the altitude. I then gazed upon that beautiful snow-capped peak

just a little above us and, for some reason I can't explain,

turned and headed the plane straight towards it. My buddy turned

round and looked at me with question marks in his eyes, but there

was no time to ask questions. After all, 25 miles doesn't mean

much at a hundred miles an hour!


We transversed a couple of miles around the snow-capped dome and

then took a long swift glide down the south side and suddenly

came upon a perfect gem of a lake, blue as a sapphire, but frozen

over on the shady side. Whilst we were circling around, suddenly

my companion yelled and excitedly pointed to the overflow end of

the lake. I looked and nearly fainted. A submarine? No it wasn't,

for it had stubby masts and the top was rounded over with only a

flat catwalk five feet across down the length of it...


We flew as close as safety permitted, and took several circles

around it. We were surprised at the immense size of the thing,

for it was as long as a city block and compared very favorably to

the liners of today. It was grounded on the shore of the lake,

with one-fourth of the rear end under water. It was partly dis-

mantled on one side near the front and on the other side was a

great doorway nearly twenty feet square, with the door gone. This

seemed quite out of proportion to modern ships which seldom have

doors even half that size.


After seeing all we could from the air, we broke all speed

records back to the airport. When we related our find, the

laughter was loud and long. Some accused us of getting drunk on

too much oxygen. The captain, however, was serious. He asked

several questions and said: "Take me up there, I want to look at

it!" We made the trip without incident and returned to the

airport. "What do you make of it?" I asked as we climbed out of

the plane. "Astounding!" he replied. "Do you know what that ship

is?" "No!" I returned. "Ever hear of Noah's ark?" "Yes sir; but I

don't understand what that has to do with that strange thing

14,000 feet up on a mountain top." "That strange craft,"

explained the captain, "is Noah's ark. It has been sitting there

for nearly 5,000 years. Being frozen up for nine or ten months of

the year, it couldn't rot, and has been in cold storage all this

time. You have made the most amazing discovery of the age!"


When the captain sent a report to the Russian government, it

caused considerable interest and the Czar sent out two companies

of special soldiers to climb the mountain. One group of fifty men

attacked one side, whilst a hundred men attacked the other. Two

weeks of hard work were required to chop out a trail along the

cliffs of the lower part of the mountain, and it was nearly a

month before the ark was reached. Complete measurements were

taken, plans were drawn of it and many photographs obtained,

which were all sent to the Czar. The ark was found to contain

hundreds of small rooms, whilst others were large with high

ceilings. The unusually large rooms had a fence of great timbers

as though designed to hold beasts ten times the size of

elephants. Other rooms were lined with tiers of cages, somewhat

like one sees today at a poultry show: only instead of chicken

wire they had rows of tiny iron bars along the front.

Everything was heavily painted with a wax-like material

resembling shellac, whilst the workmanship showed all the signs

of a high type of civilization. The wood used throughout was

oleander, which belongs to the cypress family and never rots.


This, together with the intense cold, accounted for its perfect

preservation. The expedition also found on a peak of the mountain

above the ark, the burned remains of the wood observed to be

missing from the ark. Evidently those timbers were hauled up and

used to build a shrine, for inside was a rough stone altar, such

as the Hebrews used for sacrifices. That timber had either been

struck by lightning, or it had caught alight through a fire from

the altar. The timbers were considerably charred and the roof

burned entirely away.


A few days after the report had been sent to the Czar, that

government was overthrown by the Bolsheviks. Our records were

probably destroyed by a set of men who sought to discredit

religion and all belief in the Bible. Meanwhile, we white

Russians of the air fleet escaped through Armenia. Four of us

eventually reached America, where we could be free to live

according to the good Old Book, which we had seen for ourselves

to be absolutely true, even to so fantastic sounding a thing as a

world flood! - Vladimar Roskovitsky.


End Quote


     Woodrow says it is not possible to accurately find when this

story was first brought to public attention but he states that

according to one source, it was primed as early as 1 April 1933

by the Kolnische Illustrierte Zeitung, announcing the discovery

of Noah's ark - as an April Fool's Day joke! 


     Woodrow quotes from sources that state the story was

elaberated upon from an older story, made more interesting and

readable, and ended up as 95 percent fiction, with a public

apology given on October 17, 1945.


     As Woodrow points out there are a number of very

questionable points in this story, but the one concerning the ark

being constructed from OLEANDER is perhaps the most laughable

one. Oleanders grow between 6 and 25 feet high. Such could hardly

provide "timber" for the ark!

     

     Then as Woodrow correctly points out, if this was a real

true story then you could bet your bottom dollar that the

"religious" world, especially from the west, would have arranged

tours and sent "experts" to get up that mountain and ascertain

firsthand the truth of the matter. You need also remember that

though the people of Turkey are mainly Muslim, their Koran book

also mentions Naoh and his ark. It would be just a viable for

them to also prove their Scriptures were correct, as for

Christians to do likewise with their Scriptures.

     

     Another very good point Woodrow brings out is that if the

soldiers were able to climb up the mountain and find the ark with

no apparent trouble (but only the trouble of taking a while to do

it), then surely in our modern world of space technology,

sounding instruments, etc. it would be a relatively easy job to

locate the ark of Noah today, if it is indeed up in the snow and

ice of one of those mountains of Ararat, in Turkey.

          

     This has got to be a serious problem for those who still

claim the ark is there to be seen or found. For in this modern

"space age" with all our sophisticated machines and "James Bond"

type instruments, if the access to Noah's Ark was so simple to

locate, you can bet some "religious zealot" groups would be there

digging it out. But 80 and more years have gone by since this

"fiction story" was proclaimed or put into the context of the

Russia Revolution, and NO proof of having found Noah's Ark on the

mountains of Ararat has been demonstrated or produced for world-

wide TV news channels. And as mentioned, if it really was so, the

tourist industry would be over-run by "Christians" wanting to go

and view it - think of the billions of dollars such a tourist

trip would bring for the country and local people. Some of the

"Christian" TV groups have MILLIONS if not BILLIONS of dollars to

work with. There would be at least one Christian person on this

planet who had millions upon millions of dollars, that would be

more than happy to fund, with space-age equipment, a Christian or

Muslim group who would "go and find" Noah's ark on the mountains

of Ararat, if indeed there had been ANY truth to past stories of

people having seen such a ship frozen up there in the snow and

ice.  


     Woodrow gives the names of people who have climbed Mount

Ararat from the time of J.Parrot in 1829, who it is thought was

the first man to do so. None of them found any concrete evidence

of a mighty ship frozen up there in the snow and ice.


     Not to be surprised, many still today climb Ararat, the

local hotel near the town of Dogubayazit has a busy and lucrative

buisness from would be climbers and searchers for Noah's ark. 

     The mountain has been searched by helicopters and planes,

photos taken, even from orbiting satellites.

     

     Woodrow tells of R. Bailey ("Where is Noah's Ark?" Abingdom,

1978), giving a detailed account of a fellow called John Libi who

claimed he had a dream that told him of the location of the ark.

Libi repeatedly search Mount Ararat, making his seventh and final

climb in 1969 at age 73. But he never found Noah's ark. 

     

    Stories have persisted of someone finding Noah's ark, a

Kurdish farmer in 1948 was one such fellow, but when as Woodrow

explains, A. J. Smith, from a Bible College in North Carolina went

there, he could find no one who knew the story or the man who had

claimed he had seen the ark up on the mountain of Ararat.

    

     Such is the mind-set of "religious zealots" who will do

moves, inside out, upside down, sideways shuffle, back walking,

flip-flops, hand stands, to say Noah's Ark is found on mount

Ararat. To be sure, with our space age technology, you can be

confident that every effort would be made by wealthy Christian

groups to find Noah's ark, on Ararat, if indeed it has been seen

to be there by someone at some times.


ARARAT - DID THE ARK REST THERE?

     

     Again many have mis-read what the bible actually does say.

It says in Genesis 8:4, "And the ark rested...upon the mountains

of Ararat."

     Woodrow correctly points out that Ararat was the name of a

country or region. It was the "kingdom of Ararat" (Jeremiah

51:27). The word "Ararat" and "Armenia" are both from the same

Hebrew word, in Strong's Concordance the number is 780. Ararat

could well then be the older form of the region of Armenia.

     

     The ark upon the waters drifted from Mesopotamia into the

region of Ararat and its mountains. Then notice Genesis 8:4 says

the ark rested on the MOUNTAINS - plural - not upon a mountain

called Ararat, but rested on the mountainS of Ararat. The EXACT

mountain is NOT stated!!

 

     For people to pick a mountain that THEY THINK is called

Ararat in the land called Turkey today, could well be the BIGGEST

mistake of their theological mind-set and beliefs. They could

very well be looking in a totally WRONG region of that area of

the planet earth. With that in view it is then no wonder at all

that for the last 200 years NO ONE has found Noah's ark, not even

with space-age technology. If, and it is only an IF .... IF God

did allow the ark to be preserved where it came to rest, then it

could well be at another location quite different and quite far

away from a mountain in Turkey, that most THINK is mount Ararat.

but remember again the words of Genesis 8:4 - the ark came to

rest on the mountainS of Ararat, the specific mountain is NOT

named. So even if Ararat is that area of Turkey, then NO specific

mountain in the mountains of Ararat is mentioned as the one on

which the ark came to rest.

 

     Woodrow points out that it was WAY BACK in the 3rd century

B.C. that it was a man called Berosus that claimed the ark came

to rest on the southern area of Armenia in the KURDISTAN

mountains. So it has not always been thought or taught or

believed that Ararat meant the region of Turkey.  When we see

that Ararat and Armenia are taken from the same Hebrew word in

the bible, we can see why some like Berosus in the third century

B.C. held to the view that the ark came to rest in Kurdistan

mountains of Armenia.


     The Lamsa version of the Bible, taken from the Syriac

Peshitta (which I have in my personal library) calls the

mountains of Genesis 8:4 "the Kardo mountains."  Lamsa has a

footnote that says "a chain of mountains in northern Iraq."

     The mountain chain is named from the Kurdish people, who

inhabited them at one time, though later they migrated further

north. At first they lived in a region that is now northern Iraq

across some foothills and mountains that bordered the

Mesopotamia plain. 

     So many in the east, including the Christians established

there, have viewed in the past, that it was this northern area of

Iraq, as we know it today, that the ark came to rest.


     Woodrow gives further proof of this understanding as to

where the ark came to rest by quoting from Hippolytus of the 3rd

century A.D. (Refutation of All Heresies, 10:26), "in the

mountains called Ararat, which are situated in the direction of

the country of the Adiabeni." 


     Also quoted by Woodrow is Sextus Julius Africanus, a noted

"church father" who also said that the mountains on which the ark

rest are "in Parthia" - which points to the same general direction 

as northern Iraq.


    The Koran (Hud 11:46) gives the name of the mountain as Judi,

" ... and the ark rested on the mountain Al Judi." A footnote in

some versions, mentions that this mountain is one which divides

Armenia on the south from Mesopotamia. Again the same general

area as where the Kurds once lived.


     As Woodrow admits, all these quotes from varies persons in

different centuries, do not all say exactly the same thing. But

it does point out that it is FAR from the truth that everyone at

all times and in all ages, have taught that the mountain the ark

came to rest upon was a mountain called Ararat in the land of

Turkey. Some held to the belief that the ark came to rest much

further south in the area we today would call northern Iraq, a

region that would have bordered on the great Mesopotamia plain.


     And that is probably exactly why no one has discovered

Noah's Ark in Turkey, if of course God has preserved it in the

first place, which is in itself highly questionable, seeing that

human nature would probably worship the "creatutre" more than

the CREATOR.


     Nevertheless, remember Genesis 8:4 says the ark came to rest

on the mountainS - plural - of Ararat, and no specific mountain

is mentioned.


                              ..............


TO BE CONTINUE


December 2004



Noah's Flood - Universal? #6

In search of Noah's ark continued



                       NOAH'S FOOD


                       A RE-VISITED


                         Part six




                    Written and Compiled        


                             by


                         Keith Hunt

          


     I was at Sabbath services (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) this

December 25th 2004. The invited guest speaker from the USA 

was talking in part about Noah's Ark. His sincerity I do not

question. He gave us a "hand-out" on what was supposed to be

modern "proof positive" of the "discovered" Noah's ark.


     Here below was the hand-out of, please note carefully, a

press-release dated June 11, 2000.


Quote:


PRESS RELEASE


Kherem La Yah Press: Vista, California 92084 USA

For immediate release June 11, 2000


NOAH's ARK and CITY


Two major International expeditions are now forming for

exploration of a recent discovery of Noah's long-lost city of

"Naxuan." Discovered by an independent researcher and author,

David Allen Deal of Vista, California in July of 1997. Deal

utilized a technique called "photogrammetry," studying a Turkish

Air Force aerial mapping photograph taken in 1959 that showed

Noah's Ark remains in a mudflow at the 6,200 foot level. Deal

first discovered the original touchdown point, 2 kilometres

farther up the mudflow from the ark which had, in the distant

past, slid down to a 1,200 foot lower elevation. It was by

enlarging this military, high-resolution photograph 20 times that

the building foundations and graves began to become visible. Deal

immediately notified Professor M. Salih Bayraktutan of Noah's Ark

High Commission in Turkey which set all the recent research into

motion.

Deal and several others from a newly-formed research project

based at Ataturk University in Erzurum, called SEPDAC (Search for

Early Post-Diluvial Anatolian Cultures) travelled to the site in

1998 and again in 1999 to confirm the discovery. This team

included Dr. Bayraktutan and Professor Robert Michelson of

Georgia Tech. Indeed, ancient cultural remains and house

foundations were identified adjacent to the Iranian border near

Dogubavazit, Turkey, in the mountains that lie just south of Mt.

Ararat at 7,400 feet above sealevel.


Three human ribs were removed from one of millions of graves

there, which are now awaiting radiometric dating to confirm age.

This ancient lost-city had been the first center of civilization

and later became a necropolis for the entire ancient world. The

second city called "Seron" by Armenian historian, Moses of

Chronensis, "the first city of dispersion" was also identified in

1997 by Deal, near the Ark's last resting place. Dr. Ekrem

Akurgal of Izmir, a noted archaeologist of high repute in Turkey,

after being informed via e-mail by Deal last April of his

recently confirmed discovery, became interested in the site and

is presently mounting an international expedition of some 60

archaeologists and amateur-archaeologists from around the world,

including Japan and the United States. This scientific effort is

set for June 23-26 of this year. The expedition is planning

sub-surface studies and possible excavation of the Ark of Noah, a

538-foot-long earthen-mold of the now-long-decayed ship. Work on

Naxuan is also planned to confirm the site.

It has also been announced that Bayraktutan will conduct his own

study this July with a 10-man team of American experts, through a

Press Release (Dogan News Agency, Erzurum). This archaeological

expedition is intended to demonstrate to the world that the

ancient city of Noah, recently discovered by Mr. Deal, actually

exists and has been tentatively confirmed by satellite imagery.

The Ark of Noah impression lies close-at-hand in the Tendruck

mountains of eastern Turkey. This site, Naxuan (meaning Noah's

capitol) is probably one of the singular most important

archaeological discoveries of all time. 

http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/5.htm    11/14/00


End quote


     Now did you notice that certain remains of humans were to be

specially dated with radiometric dating. Now this was way back in

2000 when the press release was sent out. Have you HEARD ANYTHING

in any serious way about the "dates" of these supposed humans,

that obviously the press release is wanting you to believe these

human remains were back in Noah's day, or they would hope were

very close to whatever they believe was the time of Noah and

shortly after.

     I have heard NOTHING in religious circles or world news to

support that this find (if it is true at all, in the first place,

and I will say more of "truth" reporting shortly) as being proved

to be of humans at or close to the time of Noah.

[AS  I  ENTER  THIS  TODAY  2020,  NOTHING  HAS  EVER

BEEN  DISCOVERED  AS  TO  NOAH’S  ARK— THE  CHRISTIAN

WORLD HAS BEEN SILENT ON THIS  SUBJECT. AND SILENT

HERE TELLS YOU A WHOLE LOTM- Keith Hunt]


     Did you notice the claim is that Noah's ark "slid down"

1,200 feet. Where on earth is the proof of that statement, which

they would like you to accept as fact?


     The press release gives some photos that you are to accept

as being the "shape" and "size" of Noah's ark. both ends are

pointed, one more than the other. If I had been given these

photos WITHOUT first being told they were photos of Noah' ark, I

WOULD NEVER HAVE THOUGHT they were land impressions 

of Noah's Ark. We do not even KNOW if Noah's ark was pointed 

at the bow or stern. The Bible gives us NO clue as to the shape of 

the ark at the front or the end of it. It was to FLOAT, and hence not

intended to move from one specific point on earth to another far

distant point, or have to navigate in any particular direction.

So, there was no need for Noah to have to build the ark in any

"pointed" shape, either in the front or the back.

     Again, if the photos were shown to you WITHOUT anyone

telling you they were photos of Noah' Ark, there is nothing in

them to immediately justify you believing this is a land

impression left by the Ark of Noah. But once that notion is in

the mind, it is easy for the mind to go out looking for a shape

in the ground, on the mountains of Ararat, and when anything

close to that "mind's view" (coupled with a certain "theological"

view) is seen, it is not far for the mind to jump to a conclusion

that yes, you have found the shape of Noah's ark in the mud of

some mountain in the Ararat chain of mountains.


     And did you NOTICE, that certain people (with fancy sounding

titles) were to go to this sure Noah's Ark find land impression

spot ...  IN THE YEAR 2000!!  The whole story goes back to 1997,

and even way before, a photo given as taken in 1948 of this

supposed ground shape of Noah's Ark (and they admit it is only

ground shape, for as admitted, the Ark has long since decayed.


     I HAVE HEARD NOTHING from any of these distinguished

scientists, or from any serious religious source, or any

trustworthy world news-casts, or reporters, that what they went

to discover in 2000 did indeed turn out to be Noah's Ark, with

concrete proof backing it all up. AND ALL THIS HAS BEEN FIVE

YEARS AGO, very near!!!

[STILL  TRUE  TODAY  OIN  2020 - Keith Hunt]


     The size of the ark is given as 538 feet long. Now this

length up till recently was a good deal longer than what most

Biblical scholars would give as the cubits given in the book of

Genesis. So what did the presenter of this lecture present? He

said that they went to Egypt, from where Moses was (who wrote the

book of Genesis) and said they found that in some form in Egypt

at Moses time, a cubit could have been 25 inches in length, hence

right on the button for this ground impression in the mud. The

same for the width.


     I have already presented to you that facts really are that

nobody knows the exact length in inches of the cubit in Moses

age, and certainly not Noah's age. 


     Do "religious" people at times make up stories, and report

them, publish them, as IF IT IS REALLY SOLID FACT, the REAL 

TRUTH OF THE MATTER?

     Sorry to say to you that INDEED THEY DO, at times, in SOME

circles of the Bible believing world. 

     About 20 years ago, in the 80s, it was reported by some AS

FACT, that the stones to build the end-time temple in Jerusalem,

were cut and standing in a USA shipping dock, ready to be shipped

over to Israel, so the Jerusalem Temple could be built. The WHOLE

THING WAS A PACK OF LIES!! There NEVER HAD BEEN any 

stones cut or moved to a dock on the USA to be shipped over to the 

land of Israel, to build ANYTHING, let alone a Temple in Jerusalem.

     We are now just ready to turn the corner into 2005, and

nearly FIVE years has gone by since this press-release. It is sad

to say that I must take all this as either another failed attempt

to find Noah's ark, or worst still, as a complete fabrication and

outright deception and plain lies.


     If anyone out there can present to me the concrete factual

proof that this last effort from 1997 to the present HAS INDEED

come home with historical and physical facts that this shape in

the mud and rocks is indeed the impression left by the resting

Ark of Noah on a mountain in Ararat, Turkey, then I'm willing to

listen. But you better have mighty strong proof, to show me that

Noah's Ark was pointed at both ends, and was indeed 538 feet in

length. As well as answer the other arguments present here in

favor of a REGIONAL flood and NOT a world-wide flood.


     Now I'll get back to more presentations from the last

chapter on Noah's Flood by Ralph Woodrow in his book on the

subject.

      

     He relates how it was not until the fourth century A.D. that

Mount Ararat (called Mount Massis by the Armenians and Agri-Dagi

by the Turks) became deemed as the resting place for Noah's Ark.

And he says that "Christianity Today" once quoted the renowned

archaeologist Dr.William F. Albright as saying that there is NO

Biblical basis for the claim that Mount Ararat is where the Ark

settled.

     Woodrow correctly points out that the word translated

"mountain" in the Bible does not automatically mean a mountain of

great height, for the same Hebrew word is often translated

"hill." It is number 2022 in Strong's Concordance of the Bible.

It simply means an "elevation" with no automatic built in "super

high" anything. 

     

     We are simply not given the height of the mountain on which

the Ark came to rest. It would seem God did not think it

important enough to mention, hence the idea that the flood waters

covered Mount Everest is just not included in the relating of the

events by Moses when he wrote the first five books of the Bible.


     Woodrow points out that Mount Ararat does have some very

unpleasant nature and weather high up towards its top. He asks

the question of how thousands of tiny and large animals (some

just not made for climbing down such a rugged and hostile climate

as found up on Mount Ararat. Of course the common answer from

Christian world-wide flood advocates would be that Ararat was not

rugged or did not have such a harsh climate, when the animals and

creeping things came out from the Ark, or, that God worked a

miracle and suspended the harsh climate and made sure the pair of

spiders etc. managed to make it down and reproduce without dying

in the attempt to repopulated the world with millions of spiders.


     Again the argument would be that the snow and ice from the

14,000 foot level and up on Ararat did not exist at that time of

Noah, and it has all come to be with climate changes since the

time after Noah. Against such an argument there is really no

answer, yet at the same time those who would hold such an

argument cannot prove their argument either. 


     Why did Noah send out a dove to test how the waters were

abating? If he was high up over the top of Ararat, which is about

17,000 feet, surely he had a "bird's eye view" of how the waters

were abating from off the planet.

     Then again the dove bringing back an olive leave .... well

olives trees grow at a much lower level than anywhere near the

height of Ararat. So by the time the dove brought back the olive

leave Noah should have had a great view of the mountains around

him.

     And how did the olive tree manage to grow so quickly after

the earth had been covered with water above Everest for about a

year. Even supposing the argument that such great mountains like

Everest did not exist at Noah's time, it still makes for a

miracle like event for an olive tree to have grown so quickly,

but I guess with God nothing is impossible, if He really did want

vegetation to spring back to life overnight so to speak, He could

command it and it would be done.


     From the Genesis account, if Noah was high above Everest or

Ararat (supposing Ararat was the highest mountain on earth at

that time), then the waters abated down to where olive trees were

growing in SEVEN days. Of course "the miracle" answer answers it

all as some would have it.

     

     As Woodrow has said in his book, there are MANY difficulties

concerning Noah's flood, if we hold that it was a world-wide

flood, but many if not most of these difficulties are cleared up

when we hold to the thought of a "local or regional" flood.

               

     Many of the well-known Bible Commentaries and Bible

Encyclopedias have long ago abandoned the idea and thought of a

world-wide Noah's flood.


     When I take all things into consideration I also must agree

that Noah's flood was probably a REGIONAL flood and not a flood

that covered the whole planet earth.

   

THERE WAS A UNIVERSAL FLOOD!!  


     But it was NOT at Noah's time!


     The Bible teaches that the earth was created beautiful and

not is chaos, the angels sang for joy at the wonderful created

earth. When we are brought on the scene in Genesis 1:1-2 the

earth is covered with water, and there is no life whatsoever,

either in the waters or the land under the waters.


     There was a world of Dinosaurs - they covered the earth.

There were great and mighty flying creatures in that world. There

was great and mighty sea creatures in that world. There were

great and mighty plant, trees, shrubs. That world was wiped out

SUDDENLY and with MIGHTY force!! 


     There was a time in the distant past when there was a WAR in

the heavens and at least in our near solar system. Satan and his

angels fought against God and His angels. The scares of this

battle are clearly seen on the moon and places like Mars. Jesus

tells us in the Gospels that He saw Satan fall from heaven as

like lightening. He and his angels who became demons, were cast

down. They were allowed by God to DESTROY AND BRING HAVOC 

on this earth, so violent and sudden it was that the whole world of the

Dinosaurs was destroyed, some covered so quickly with the chaos

of water and mud, that they were preserved whole and in some

cases with the food they were eating in their mouths and

stomachs.


     It was the time of violence so mighty that whole coal bed

seams were created, as well as oil, natural gas, and other rich

deposits such as diamonds were created.


     The strata we see in the huge Canadian Rockies and other

great mountain ranges of the world were formed, and when God

brought the dry land from the seas, in Genesis one, we see the

strata in many open face mighty rock mountains of today.


     Geology shows there was a violent world-wide earth upheaval.

The Bible shows all was covered with water and from that

life-less planet God created what we read about in Genesis

chapters one and two.


     God allowed this destruction to come upon what was created

beautiful, for from it He would create His master-piece of

creation. He would create a world for the human kind to live, who

He designed in the form of Himself, to became like Himself, to

share in the God life of existence. He now desired to have

children born to Himself. This plan a reproducing Himself and so

the whole plan of salvation for the mortal human kind, is fully

expounded upon on my Website.


     Yes, some huge creatures were created with mankind,

creatures now extinct, which were very similar to some Dinosaurs

of the previous age. The one mentioned in the book of Job can

hardly be thought of as any being that lives in the land and seas

today. Hence some human footprints found with Dinosaur type

footprints in some strata.

 

     We have some creatures preserved from the Dinosaur age that

would have been like those of our humankind age.


     God is able, if He wishes to create the same type of

creature in ANY age, the age before man and the age after man.


PLEASE NOTE


     The belief that Noah's flood was universal or regional is

NOT a test of salvation. Which ever way you want to believe about

the story of Noah as to the size of the flood, is not a salvation

issue. We do know that Noah is said to have been a preacher of

RIGHTEOUSNESS, - he served and obeyed the ways of the true God of

heaven above. He was SAVED by God's GRACE, and will be in that

resurrection of the saints, upon the return of Jesus Christ to

this earth. 


     THAT is the MAIN point of the story of Noah. RIGHTEOUSNESS

will LIVE, sin and unrighteousness will DIE. So is the plan of

God.


Keith Hunt


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Entered on my website January 2005




 

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