Thursday, September 17, 2020

TECNICAL STUDY--- Finish--- JESUS/PAUL PHARISEES? #5

Jesus and Paul - Pharisees? #5


Some say we should follow the Pharisees - my answer


by 

Keith Hunt





William Dankenbring and some others put heavy weight on Jesus'

words in Matthew 23:2,3. They claim that Jesus was telling people

to obey and follow the Scribes and Pharisees in what they taught

and practiced. Of course if this was so then Jesus contradicts

Himself, as He said at another time in His ministry that His

disciples should be aware and careful of the "leaven" of the

Pharisees and Sadducees, and the context of that passage goes on

to tell you that Jesus was meaning the "doctrines" of those two

sects of Judaism (Matt. 16:6-12).

The very context of Matthew 23 should tell us that Jesus could

not have been telling people to just simply follow any dictate of

the Scribes and Pharisees. He could not have been advising people

to have some kind of "blind faith" in those leaders, because they

were "inspired of God" and because they held some kind of

"authority" as sitting in "Moses' seat."


MOSES SEAT?


The best OT definition of Moses seat is probably Deut. 17:8-12.


Please read it carefully. Moses was a "judge" - the first judge

under God in Israel. We can see that in Exodus 18: 13-16. Then

others were picked as judges (see also Numbers 11).


Yes, we see then that Moses' seat of judgement was established.

It was mainly the "hard" things (Deut.17) that they were to

judge. It was not so much the expounding and interpreting of the

"Scriptures" as much as the hard APPLICATION of some of the laws

and commandment and precepts of God. The basic things given to

Moses from the Lord and what he wrote down (what we know today as

the first five books of the Bible) DO NOT COVER every single

situation that may arise as pertaining to any particular laws or

precepts. Hence we have what we can read about in Deuteronomy 17.


Then also there was the "calendar" and "new months" within

Israel.

You can find just about NOTHING on the rules and workings of the

"calendar" in the Bible. The new month days were to be announced,

the calendar was to be formed and executed. Obviously those who

were skilled and who sat in the seat of Moses were to execute the

calendar and also when the new month days would be honored and

announced. There was then a body of people who had certain

authority over certain things within Israel. 


You can read about the calendar and those who sat in charged of

it for Israel, in my studies on the calendar question.


Jesus was not telling people to just look to the Pharisees as

some kind of "inspired" and "beyond error" teachers of God's

word, and so without thinking just follow what they taught and

said. He could not have been teaching that kind of theology

mind-set from reading all that Jesus taught and said throughout

the four Gospels. Even in the OT we have Isaiah 8:20 which

clearly states that it is to the law and the testimony - the WORD

of God - that we are to look, and if ANY PERSON (your neighbor,

your child's school teacher, the bus driver, the postman, THE

RELIGIOUS MINISTER) came along and DID NOT SPEAK 

ACCORDING to the law and the testimony, THERE WAS NO 

LIGHT IN THEM, and you were to pay no attention to them, 

as far as running your life, your mind, and your practices.


So within the CONTEXT of the entire Bible, Jesus was NOT here

teaching to just follow casually all that came out of the mouth

of the Pharisee sect. I have also shown you that the Pharisees

had at LEAST TWO THEOLOGY SCHOOLS, and they DID NOT 

agree on all aspects of the understanding and interpretation of the

Scriptures.


What Jesus was then saying was that WHERE the Pharisees were

CORRECT (like they taught and believed there was to be a

resurrection), then yes, obey them, for where right and

correctness is, then it makes no difference who is teaching it.

And He was also admitting that in CERTAIN AREAS of 

ADMINISTRATION (through the Jewish Sanhedrin - you can 

also read about that in my studies on the Calendar) and JUDGMENT 

and things like announcing the new month days, the Pharisee DID 

sit in Moses seat. They did have an authority right to speak on certain 

things that they were ALLOWED to speak on, as were the judges in

Deut.17.


All of this is FAR from just simply giving your mind over to some

leaders of some "religious sect" that Jesus elsewhere, as in this

very chapter we are studying, condemned with no punches pulled,

and even said they had doctrines that were "leaven" or sin (see 1

Cor.5 on how "leaven" is sometimes used to denote sin and error

and unrighteousness).


NO ONE IS TO BLINDLY FOLLOW SOMEONE ELSE,

YOU FOLLOW "IN THE LORD"


It does not matter who you are, man, woman, child, teenager,

policeman, school-teacher, doctor, nurse, space-explorer, rocket

scientist, YOU never just turn your mind over to ANYONE, and let

them have full un-conditional control of your mind and life. The

only one you should allow to control you unconditionally is God

and Jesus.

 

Look at the following Scriptures and mark them well.


"Children, obey your parents IN THE LORD; for this is right"

(Eph. 6:1).

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husband, as it is fit IN

THE LORD." (Col.3:18).

"And we beseech you, brethren, to know them who labor among you,

and are over you IN THE LORD, and admonish you" (1 Thes. 5:12).


And I have already given you Isaiah 8: 20. Mark that one well

also.


Matthew 23:2,3 is not some catch all instructions from Jesus to

tell you that the Pharisee sect had NO ERROR in their theology

teachings, for in fact NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM 

THE TRUTH!

And Jesus had already told you that in Matthew 16.


NOW TO ANSWER WILLIAM DANKENBRING


W.DANKENBRING:


The apostle Paul, of course, was a Pharisee. Did the apostle Paul

deliberately "lie," and bear false witness, in the New Testament?

As a strict Pharisee, all his life he observed Pentecost on the

same day as all the Pharisees did -- Sivan 6, counting 50 days

from the clay of the wave sheaf offering, which the Pharisees

offered the day after the first high holy Day of Passover.

Following the Sadducean Pentecost reckoning makes a LIAR out 

of the apostle Paul, who himself was a Pharisee, and who was

brought up and taught at the feet of the leading Pharisee of his

day, Gamaliel. Paul says,"I am verily a man which am a Jew,

born in Tarsus, a city of Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at

the feet of Gamaliel, and TAUGHT according; to the PERFECT 

MANNER OF THE LAW of the fathers" (Acts 22:3). Do we dare 

believe that he, apostle Paul, was a LIAR? If Paul says he was taught 

the Law of God perfectly, as a Pharisee, at the feet of the leading

Pharisee of that day, Gamaliel, then he is saying he was taught

correctly concerning Pentecost calculation and observation! If

the Pharisees were wrong, then this statement of Paul's would be

an out-and-out LIE!


KEITH HUNT:

Notice the words that William D. emphasizes "TAUGHT ..... PERFECT

MANNER OF THE LAW...." Then he tells you that this means "he was

taught the Law of God perfectly,as a Pharisee...." But to do my

own emphasis PAUL DID NOT SAY HE WAS TAUGHT THE LAW 

OF GOD   PERFECTLY as a Pharisee!!     

He said, look at it, see it again friends,".....brought     

up.....at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the

perfect manner of the law OF THE FATHERS." The words "of God" 

are NOT THERE! And that is a BIG difference, for to be taught the

perfect law of the fathers, say your fathers, your religious

teachers, and taught the Law of God perfectly, could be as far

apart as night is from day, as black is from white, as truth is

from error.


We have seen the plain truth from the words of Christ that the

Scribes and Pharisees were so far away from the correct

understanding of the Word of God that they were not only not

going to enter the Kingdom of God themselves, but those they

converted to follow them would not enter either. With all of that

(study again Barclay's comments no Mat.23:3) how is it possible

for Paul to have been taught by the Pharisee Gamaliel, the Law of

God perfectly? He of course COULD NOT HAVE BEEN!!


And Paul himself acknowledged that all the teaching he had BEFORE

Christ came into his life was just DUNG - worthless, see

Philippians 3:7,8.

Paul tells us that the gospel he preached was "not after men" -

he did not receive it from men, nor was he taught it from the

mouth of men, but "by the revelation of Jesus Christ"

(Gal.l:ll,12). 


Now ask yourself this question: if Paul was taught the Law of God

perfectly by the Pharisees, at the feet of the leading Pharisee

of the day, Gamaliel, then what need did Jesus have to teach him?

Paul, according to Dankenbring, already understood the law of God

perfectly so why did Jesus have to take Paul off to Arabia to

teach him? See Gal.1:15-17.


The phrase "perfect manner of the law of the fathers" is

explained to us in other words by Paul in the book of Galatians.

Notice it. "...for you have heard of my conversation in time

past, in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted

the church of God, and wasted it. And profited in the Jews'

religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more

exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers" (Gal.

l:13-14).


Read these verses in a modern translation. Many give "Jews

religion" as "Judaism" - what Paul profited in. What he was

exceedingly zealous in, what he was taught according to the

perfect manner of the law by Gamaliel, was "the TRADITIONS 

OF MY FATHERS." In Acts he said "of the fathers" in Galatians 

he put it "of my fathers" but both times Paul was saying the same 

thing, he was taught by the sect of the Pharisees the perfect traditions

and manner of the teachers and ancestors of Judaism. He was

zealous in following the Pharisees way of teaching the law

according to their ancestral fathers. And as we have see, many of

the teachings and practices of that sect was "way off beam" -

just like their modern follower Dankenbring and their children

the Orthodox Messianic Jews.

We must not read the Bible with blinkers on. we must we willing

to read the WHOLE bible and the WHOLE writings of Paul. If you 

do not read ALL of Paul, I guarantee you can make Paul say just

about anything, even of course to WILDLY contradicting HIMSELF!


DANKENBRING CONTINUES:


Was Paul a LIAR? On another occasion, Paul said to the Sanhedrin

or Council, "Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a

Pharisee" (Acts 23:6). Paul obviously was not embarrassed to have

been a Pharisee -- for like the other Pharisees, he believed in

the hope of the resurrection, which the apostate Sadducees denied

(verses 7-9).


KEITH HUNT:

I have in this edition given you a very full explanation in

regards to Paul's words "I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee,"

but will add yet more to what others have written. 


Turn to the book of Acts - read verse 7 of chapter six. The

Temple still stood in Jerusalem, the whole temple rites continued

as before, nothing had come to an end, the priesthood was still

functioning in their duties. Nothing is said in this verse to

indicate that the priests who were obedient to the faith gave up

the priesthood and its functions. As many commentators have

said., the early Church of the apostles would have been looked

upon as just another Jewish sect of the day. The Christian church

did not set itself against all that Judaism stood for, taught or

practiced and this is clearly proved by Acts 6:7.

A great company of the priests became believers in Jesus. Now if

any of these priest found themselves in the "hot seat" that Paul

found himself in Acts 23:6, would it have been proper for them to

have used their position as a priest to get out of their tight

spot? Would it have been a lie for them to have said, "Men and

brethren, I am a Priest, the son of a Priest, of the hope and

resurrection of the dead I am called in question."? Why of coarse

it would have been legitimate for them so to have said they were

Christians but they were still priests. Their upbringing was in

the priesthood, their fathers were priests, their education was

temple service, even if they had retired from active duty they

were still within their rights to have said "I am a priest, the

son of a priest." Saying this does not imply they agreed with the

other priests in ALL theological beliefs. Nor does it imply they

would have been following all the practices of the other priests

that did not believe in Christ and His resurrection. It would

have been a statement that they were of the ancestry of the

priesthood and so were a priest. Nothing of a lie or nothing

deceitful at all, if they had said those kinds of things in the

same predicament as Paul found himself in.


So it was with Paul, he was of the ancestry of the Pharisee sect

and so a Pharisee. Paul was in his legal right within the Jewish

society to still say he was a Pharisee even when he followed and

was a part of the new sect of the disciples of Christ.

Again we need to remember the status of the Christian community

within Judaism at this point in history. It would have been

regarded by all - Jews, Gentiles and the Romans - as a part of

Judaism with a few different ideas such as Jesus as the Messiah

and His resurrection from death to eternal immortality. This

truth is verified by the fact that MANY of the sect of the

Pharisees also BELIEVED and were a part of the New Testament

Church, SEE IT, MARK IT FRIENDS.... Acts 15:5. 

The Church was growing, not only in numbers but in understanding

of truth, and there were differences of opinions on certain

matters and God was leading with His Spirit to the correct

answers. But notice, Luke(the writer of Acts) did not think it

strange or a "no,no" to still classify and call some of the

believers "Pharisees" or "of the sect of sect of the Pharisees."

Would they have called themselves Pharisees if under the specific

circumstance that Paul found himself under? Of course they could

have, just as Paul at one time did. They would have not been

telling a lie. Luke did not tell a lie when he called SOME in the

Church by the name of "thee sect of the Pharisees."


Again you need to have no tunnel vision when you read the Bible.

What W.D. is doing here is leading you down the garden path into

the bramble bush by focussing on just a few verses and leading

you to a certain conclusion that he wants you to conclude from

just a few certain verses. What he does not want you to see is

where Luke called certain ones who "believed" and were in the

Church of God ..."the sect of the Pharisees."


Very clever on Dankenbring's part but alas it takes you into the

ditch of false deception and false doctrines. 


DANKENBRING CONTINUES:


Paul wrote to the Philippians about hiss religious training and

upbringing. He declared, "If any other man thinketh that he has

whereof he might trust in the flesh, I wore: Circumcised the

eight day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an

Hebrew of the Hebrews; AS TOUCHING THE LAW, A PHARISEE;

concerning zeal, persecuting the church; TOUCHING THE

RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH IS IN THE LAW, BLAMELESS" 

(Philippians 3:4-6).

But how could this be? If the Pharisees were IN ERROR on

Pentecost and its calculation, then Paul could not have been

"blameless" as concerns the Law of God, the divine instructions

for Pentecost! If the Sadducean reckoning was correct, then the

Pharisees had to be wrong, making Paul himself in error, and

certainly NOT "blameless"! Therefore, did Paul then lie when he

made this clear and obvious declaration?

The Greek word for "blameless" here is "amemptos" and means,

"irreproachable, faultless, unblamable." Thayer's Greek English

Lexicon defines the word, "blameless, deserving no censure; free

from fault or defect." The same word is used in Luke 1:6 of the

parents of John the Baptist:

"And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the

commandments and ordinances of the Lord BLAMELESS."


Obviously, they observed Pentecost on Sivan 6, reckoning it

like the Pharisees did!


KEITH HUNT:

Paul gives us how he was taught as touching the law (William     

D. even emphasizes  it)  - a PHARISEES! His understanding of the 

law was from the point of interpretation as the Pharisees saw it,

and I have shown you that even they did not agree among     

themselves, but had two theological schools that argued     

between themselves as to the meaning of parts of the law. W.D.

does NOT want you to know this, if he himself even know that

Jewish fact of their history. If he does know it, he is going to

keep that truth hidden from you, for then his arguments would

have a gaping hole in them right away. 


So Paul was BLAMELESS as touching the righteousness which is

in the law, but the preceding words of his explains his

"blameless" statement. Does he say he had the perfect

righteousness of God? Does he say he had full and complete and

perfect understanding in the law of the Lord? NO! He says NO SUCH

THING!

Dankenbring and his tunnel vision does not see the next verses,

nor does he give them to you (possibly hoping you will not  

bother to open your Bible and read them these verses in their

context). Read the following verses my friends, verse 7 he says

that what he attained under the teaching of the Pharisees and

other national traits, he counted as LOSS for Christ. For the

KNOWLEDGE of Christ (and His Spirit that leads into all truth)

Paul counted his past attainments as DUNG in verse 8.


Paul wanted to be found in Christ - so that "not having mine OWN

righteousness, which is of the law" - aaahhh! There it is,

whatever righteousness of the law that he was blameless in, it

was his OWN righteousness and not that of God's or Christ's. He

had been taught the Pharisees righteousness of the law, that he

in verse 9 calls "mine own righteousness" and sure, as far as

that went he was blameless. He may have been able to keep that

kind of righteousness perfectly, just like the great Job was

blameless also - both men blameless in their OWN standards of how

THEY understood the righteousness of law. Yes, and even God might

have claimed that in THEIR framework as they saw it, they were

perfect. God said that Job was perfect and upright, one that

feared God and eschewed evil (Job 1). But did that mean Job was

all he needed to be ot all he should have been. Did that mean Job

was fully instructed in GOD AND HIS HOLY WAYS AND LAWS. 

Did it mean Job REALLY KNEW God? Or was it that he knew God 

in a "human teaching form" only, and was yes, perfect and upright in 

that human way? The LATTER is the real answer as Job himself tells us

in his own words in chapter 42. "I have HEARD OF YOU BY THE

HEARING OF THE EAR (what man teaches about you and your holy

ways) BUT ***NOW*** MINE EYE SEES YOU, *** WHEREFORE 

I ABHOR MYSELF AND REPENT IN DUST AND ASHES***


Paul was in many ways a NT era JOB! He was perfect in the laws of

"the fathers" BUT what was the ways of "the fathers" as a

Pharisee people, all those ways, when he REALLY CAME TO SEE 

GOD AND CHRIST, he counted as DUNG, in order to WIN CHRIST, 

to REALLY be a Christian and to REALLY KNOW GOD!!


Jesus told His disciples that if the righteousness they had DID

NOT exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, THEY

should in no case enter into the Kingdom of God" (Mat. 5:20).    


If the Pharisees had the correct righteousness which was in the

law, if they were blameless in their understanding, teaching, and

practices of the LAW OF GOD (not "the fathers"), WHY did Jesus

tell His disciples they had to do better than the Scribes and

Pharisees if they wanted to enter the Kingdom?


Obviously from the context of Philippians 3 and the rest of the

NT, Paul was only blameless in following the teachings and

practices of the human righteousness that the Pharisees     

established in THEIR interpretation of the law.


Notice how clever Dankenbring is:  "If the Pharisees were in

error on Pentecost and its calculation, then Paul could not have

been 'blameless' as concerns THE LAW OF GOD...." He has 

CHANGED what Paul actually said to what he wants YOU to 

believe Paul= said. Paul never used the words "law of God" in 

this section of Philippians. It is just not there! Of course not, 

because Paul never ever taught anywhere that the Pharisees and 

Gamaliel his teacher had the PERFECT UNDERSTANDING 

AND  INTERPRETATION of the LAW OF GOD!!


To the CONTRARY, he showed that when the full knowledge and

understanding of the law came to him he found he was under the

penalty of death. Under what he knew of the law as taught by the

Pharisees, he thought he was okay - alive - in right standing 

with God, but when Christ revealed to him the real meaning and

intent of the commandments "sin revived,and I died"(Romans

7:7-9). Read that friends, MARK IT, what could be plainer here in

what Paul is teaching about himself as a Pharisee and then as

when he REALLY CAME TO KNOW GOD AND CHRIST.


Clearly Paul was not blameless when it came to the Law of God.


When he only knew life as a Pharisee he thought he was ALIVE, 

he thought he was blameless before God, but he was, as the saying

does "as guilty as sin." He was a DEAD mam - heading for death,

until Christ came into his life and the true righteousness of God

and the commandment which were ordained to life. He had been

under the righteousness of the Pharisees, DECEIVED, blinded - sin

had taken the opportunity by the instrument of the commandments,

to SLAY him (Romans 7:9-11).


Paul was indeed blameless, irreproachable, faultless, where it

came to judging him by the standards and precepts and

righteousness that the Pharisees "set for themselves" based on

how they interpreted the law, but he was a DEAD man - a walking

dead man, and very much to BLAME when it came to the Law of God.


It makes no difference that this same Greek word for "blameless"

is used in Luke 1:6 in reference to the parents of John the

Baptist. That Greek word of itself is NOT THE KEY! It is the

CONTEXT and other words used along with it that MAKE the

DIFFERENCE and hold the TRUTH.

John the Baptist's parents were righteous and walked in all the

commandments and ordinances BLAMELESS, because they did it 

BEFORE GOD! They walked, notice it, "in all the commandments 

and ordinances of THE LORD..." The words "God" and "the Lord" 

are USED HERE!! Paul never used such words in connection with 

his walking in the law as a deceived Pharisee who did not know the

Son of God.

Because the parents of the Baptist did walk blamelessly in the

law of the Lord, they would NOT have observed Pentecost on Sivan

6, nor the Passover on Abib 15, as William D. does!!


I'll tell you boldly and categorically Dankenbring is VERY WRONG

ON THOSE TWO DOCTRINES OF GOD!!


DANKENBRING CONTINUES:


Was Paul a "Liar"? We have a conundrum here -- a paradox. If the

Worldwide Church of God is correct in observing Pentecost

following the Sadducean method of counting, and therefore

observing a different day, then they are calling the apostle

Paul a LIAR! likewise, the Church of God International, under

Garner Armstrong and Ronald Dart (remember this was written

before the WCG disintegrated and went Protestant in theology and

before the CGI broke up) by following the Sadducces, are also

calling Paul a despicable LIAR. Furthermore, Gerald Flurry, and

the so-called "Philadelphia Church of God," by also following the

reckoning of the Sadducees and observing their "Pentecost," is

also branding the apostle as a LIAR and false witness!

Who are the REAL "liars"?


Of course, as an apostle of God and Christ, it would not he

proper for Paul to lie. Jesus said the Scripture cannot be broken

(John 10:35), and said to the Father, "Thy Word is truth" (John

17:17) -- and part of that Word of God is the writings and

epistles of the apostle Paul -- inspired Scripture given by

inspiration of God (2 Tim. 3:16-17). Therefore, Paul could NOT

have "lied"!


KEITH HUNT:

Of course Paul did not lie, but W.D. by clever words and hoping

you will not take the time to look up the passages he quotes and

see them in their context, and hoping you are a person that does

NOT READ the NT and especially ALL the writings of Paul, tries 

to get you to be tunnel visioned on these passages and so fall into

the hole of believing Paul was, as a Christian still a FULL

PRACTICING Pharisee as he was before he became a Christian.


Some of W.D. arguments are so silly and weak if you are a reader

of the WHOLE NT that most would not bother to give their time in

answering him.


W.DANKENBRING:


Peter told us about Paul's writings, "And account that the

longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved

brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath

written unto you; as also in ALL, HIS EPISTLES, speaking in them

of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood,

which they that are unlearned and unstable WREST, AS THEY 

DO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, unto their own destruction" 

(2 Pet.3:15-16).


Surely, then since Paul's writings we here referred to as

"SCRIPTURE," and God CANNOT LIE (Titus 1:2), there is no way 

that Paid could have lied in his epistles! But if this is the case,

their notice the predicament that those who REFUSE to accept the

Pharisee's reckoning of the Day of Pentecost face! Notice. how

their reasoning leads to a DIRECT CONTRADICTION of Scripture --

and makes a LIAR out or the apostle Paul! For by following the

Sadducces, they make the apostle Paul out to be a liar, who

followed the practices of the PHARISEES, and who said he did so

"BLAMELESSLY" -- who said, furthermore, that he was TAUGHT 

by Gamaliel, the leading Pharisee of his day, "according to the

PERFECT MANNER OF THE LAW"!


Who is right? Paul, who wrote Scripture? Or his critics

nay-sayers?


KEITH HUNT:

Paul did write scripture. He was an apostle of God. He was

inspired by the Holy Spirit of the Lord. He said not lie! Paul

never said or wrote that as a Christian he "followed the practice

of the Pharisees." What he did when unconverted as a Pharisee was

blameless "according to the perfect manner of the law OF THE

FATHERS." Notice how William D. above LEAVES OUT THE 

WORDS "of the fathers" to lead you to believe Paul is talking about 

God's law and not the law of the fathers, whom I have shown you by

Paul's own words were Gamaliel and other ancestral teachers of

the Pharisees.

Dankenbring hopes you will not look up the verses in the Bible,

and just kinda say, "Wow....William D. has something here, Paul

was blameless in the law OF GOD as a Pharisee, so it must be

correct, we are to follow the teachings of the Pharisees" (which

today would mean you follow the Messianic Pharisee Jews, just as

some of them tell you that is what you should follow, as we saw

at the very start of this 5 part study).


DANKENBRING CONCLUDES:


Isn't the answer perfectly clear? Jesus Christ Himself stated    

plainly, " The Scribes and Pharisees SIT IN MOSES' SEAT: All

therefore whatsoever THEY [not the Sadducees] bid you observe,   

that observe and DO"(Matthew 23:2,3. The Pharisees were the true

authorities for interpreting the laws of God -- we true

custodians of the "oracles of God" (Romans 3:1-2). Isn't it about

time we give them a little respect for the good that they did,

preserving the Laws of God and the correct date and method of

calculating Pentecost? To observe Pentecost on any other day than

the day Christ Himself approved, is sacrilege -- an abomination

in the sight of God and a plain inexcusable violation of His

commandment!


KEITH HUNT:

The answer is perfectly CLEAR when you read the whole New

Testament and take off the blinkers. We have show you what Jesus

was saying when He said, "The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses'

seat." Did the apostles and disciples OBEY, and OBSERVE, and 

DO all that the Pharisees and Scribes bade them to do? The book of

ACTS gives us the truth of the matter.


After the coming of the Holy Spirit the apostles preached

POWERFULLY Jesus and His resurrection, so powerful was their

preaching that it soon stirred up the anger of the priests, ruler

of the temple, Sadducees, rulers, and elders, and scribes(Acts

4:1-7). I will prove to you shortly that among this group was the

Pharisees, who had a great deal of power and authority as William

D. would verify.

The apostles were told to leave the COUNCIL that they had been

brought before, verse 15. This council(containing the Scribes and

Pharisees that sat in Moses' seat) COMMANDED them "not to speak

at all nor teach in the name of Jesus." verse 18. Notice how

Peter and John answered them in verse 19 and 20. Did they say

"Okay, we know that you sit in Moses' seat and we were taught by

our Jesus to observe and do all whatsoever you bid us."? No they

said no such thing - they would continue to speak about the

things they had seen and heard, that is what they told this

Sanhedrin group of men.

They went back to their company and all prayed that God would

give them the BOLDNESS to speak His word. God answered and did

give them even more Spirit to speak His word boldly(verses

23-31). They did NOT obey the dictates of the Scribes and

Pharisees and the others that made up the Jewish council.

Within a short period of time they again were brought before the

COUNCIL who said they had commanded them not to teach in Jesus'

name(Acts 5:27,28). This teaching and decree from the "seat of

Moses" was not the truth of God, it was not the WORD of God, it

was not the CORRECT DOCTRINE of the Lord, and so Peter 

answered and said to them, "We ought to obey God rather than men."


Now notice the proof that this council included the Pharisees.

Mark it, friend, verses 33 and 34. One of the council was Paul's

teacher, the famous Pharisee - Gamaliel. The council took his

advise but still commanded the apostles not to speak in Jesus'

name, which of course the disciples did not obey.


Obviously, even with the great power of the Holy Spirit filling

their minds, bringing to their remembrance all things that Jesus

had taught them, they did not understand Jesus' instruction in

Mat.23:2-3 to mean they should BLINDLY obey all the commands 

and dictates of the Scribes and Pharisees and council that

represented the "seat of Moses."


What Jesus was telling His disciples was to respect those in the

seat of Moses and observe what they said AS LONG AS IT WAS

ACCORDING TO THE WORD AND TRUTH OF GOD. Anything 

less than that they would do as Peter was inspired to tell that council 

"we ought to obey God rather than men."


We also need to realize the fact that the Jewish council -  

those in Moses' seat - were more than just a bunch of religious

teacher. They were the court of their society who could pass

punishment and authorize it to be carried out, they could even

pass the death sentence, but that punishment the Roman Empire

would not allow them to fulfil. Read again Acts 4:13-21 and note

verse 21. The apostles honored this authority even to the point

of submitting to BEATINGS from the council, chapter 5:40.

Yes, get that, they honored this council by willingly having the

sentence of beatings upon them!!


The Jews were custodians of the "oracles of God" but that only

meant the preservers of the WORD OF GOD whether they BELIEVED 

it or not, whether they obeyed it or not, whether they understood it

or not. This was the chief advantage and profit of why God had

preserved the Jews (Rom. 3:l-4).


From all we have seen in what we have published it should be

clear to see that Jesus, Peter, John, Paul, or any other apostle

NEVER TAUGHT that "the Pharisees were the true authorities for

interpreting the laws of God" as the imagination of Dankenbring

would assert.


I see from Matthew 23 very little if any "respect" shown to the

Pharisees from the Messiah. A few were truly converted, as Paul

was, along with some others, to follow Jesus, but the majority

were the children of hell, blind guides, whited sepulchres full

of dead men's bones, serpents, children of them that killed God's

true prophets, and those who shut up the Kingdom of heaven, not

only from themselves, but from those who would enter.


NOW FRIENDS YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD "THE REST OF 

THE STORY" CONCERNING PAUL AND THE PHARISEE SECT.


Someone like William Dankenbring, you need to HOLD WITH KID

GLOVES....maybe you need to think twice about whether to hold

anything from him at all.


                       ..............


Written July 1993 

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