I'LL LET YOU READ WHAT I HAVE REPRODUCED FROM THIS CHAPTER FROM "THE HARBINGER" BOOK, BEFORE I COMMENT.
"So what have you found so far?" he asked.
"On the Fifth Harbinger? Not a lot."
"Then let's start with the little... what have you found?"
"After the attack, the nation vows to rebuild, not with clay bricks, as before, but with stone. In the prophecy, the Hebrew word for stone is gazit!'
"Well done, Nouriel. You're going deeper. That's good. What else?"
''Gazit speaks of stone that's been cut out, chiseled, in particular, quarried from mountain rock. Thus the mountain on the seal...a place from which the gazit stone is quarried."
"That's more than a little."
"But it doesn't lead me anywhere."
"It led you here."
"But what does it have to do with America... or with the Tower? It's not as if New York City is about to build skyscrapers out of quarried stones."
"Piece the clues together, Nouriel. Then we can see if there's any connection to America. Where are we in the prophecy?"
"But we will rebuild with hewn stone."
"So they vow to rebuild and to do so stronger than before... to replace the fallen clay bricks with the gazit stone. They quarry their stones, carve them into massive blocks, and bring them back to the ground of destruction, to where the bricks have fallen. The first stone of building is always the most important—the cornerstone. The laying down of the cornerstone begins the construction. It's not just a necessary act, but a symbolic one. And in the case of Israel's rebuilding, the laying down of the first gazit stone would be filled with symbolic meaning, signaling the beginning of the nation's rebuilding and the fulfillment of its vow. May I have the seal?"
So I handed it to him, and he lifted it up as he revealed its meaning. "The Fifth Harbinger: The nation responds to the calamity with defiance in the form of stone. The stone is cut out of their mountains and bedrock. They chisel it into a block. They bring it back to the ground of destruction. The stone becomes a symbol, the embodiment of their vow, their confidence, and their defiance. Upon the stone they rest their plans of rebuilding and their vow of national resurgence. But the Gazit Stone is, in reality, a symbol of a nation's rejection of God's calling. When the sign of the Gazit Stone manifests, it's a Harbinger carrying a warning of future calamity. The Fifth Harbinger: the Gazit Stone."
"And what does it have to do with America?"
"They came here, Nouriel. They came here to find the Gazit Stone."
"Here?" I asked.
"Here... to the mountains. They came here and cut it out of the mountain rock and brought it back."
"Back?"
"Back to where the bricks had fallen."
"To Ground Zero?"
"Yes. For the vow declares, 'The bricks have fallen, but we will rebuild with quarried stone.' So the rebuilding must begin on the same site of the destruction. So the Gazit Stone must be brought to where the bricks had fallen, to the ground of the calamity. Thus, the quarried stone had to be brought back to Ground Zero. And so it was."
"And what happened at Ground Zero once they brought it back?"
"There was a gathering there, a gathering of leaders—the mayor of New York City, the governor of New York State, the governor of New Jersey, various officials involved with the rebuilding, other leaders, and a gathering of guests and spectators. They were all focused on a single object—the Gazit Stone. The Gazit Stone most often took the form of a massive rectangular block of cut rock, so too the stone that was laid on the pavement of Ground Zero."
"A massive rectangular block of quarried stone.. .laid at Ground Zero?"
"A twenty-ton massive rectangular block of quarried stone. The stone was to mark the beginning of the rebuilding."
"But we will rebuild with quarried stone."
"Exactly. The stone of Isaiah's prophecy was another symbol of national defiance. So too they made the Gazit Stone of Ground Zero into a symbol. They even gave it a name. They called it the Freedom Stone. It was created to be the symbolic cornerstone of the rebuilding—not just of Ground Zero, but of New York City and America. Its laying down was to be the first act in that rebuilding and the beginning of the Tower that was to rise up from the site. So, as in the last days of ancient Israel, the Gazit Stone would again become the symbol of a nation's rebuilding and restoration."
"Were there any such proclamations or vows spoken," I asked, "when the Gazit Stone was laid at Ground Zero?"
"Why do you ask that?"
"Because the stone in Isaiah 9:10 was linked to the proclaiming of the vow."
"There were. There were such proclamations. And as in the ancient case, their proclamations joined the nation's rebuilding to the quarried stone. Their words were, in effect, a modern paraphrase of the ancient vow. On Ground Zero the American leaders declared that they too would rebuild with quarried stone. The stone, they declared, would be the beginning of the nation's rebuilding. It would:
"...forever remain a symbolic cornerstone for the rebuilding of New York and the nation.1
"As it was in ancient Israel, the act of rebuilding with quarried stone was intended to send a message. So the governor of New York would proclaim:
"By laying this magnificent cornerstone of hope, we are sending a message to the people around the world."2
"A message of defiance."
"Yes, a message of defiance. On one hand, a defiance of the calamity; but on the other, beneath the surface, something much deeper...a much deeper defiance...just as it was with ancient Israel. One commentary explains it this way:
"Far from being humbled and becoming repentant as a result of the chastening judgments of the Lord, they are resolutely determined to withstand God and rebuild on an even grander scale: 'The bricks have crumbled, but we will rebuild with stone cut out of the quarry..."'3
"Stone cut out of the quarry—just as the rebuilding of Ground Zero and of America involved the stone cut of the quarry.. .here."
"Yes. And even the New York governor would allude to the stone cut out of the quarry as he spoke his proclamation over the stone:
"Today we take twenty tons of Adirondack granite, the bedrock of our state, and place it as the foundation, the bedrock of a new symbol of American strength and confidence."4
"As it was with ancient Israel, the quarried stone would become the embodiment of a nation's misplaced confidence in its own power to emerge stronger than before. And the act of laying down the quarried stone would be a manifestation of what the commentaries call the spirit of defiance:
"The bricks may have fallen down; it was of no consequence—
they would build with hewn stone Thus they breathed the
very spirit of defiance."5
"The nation... determines to act in a spirit of defiance... it will turn its fallen bricks into massive stones."6
"The spirit of defiance... Why is that significant?" "On the day that America officially began its rebuilding by replacing the fallen bricks of 9/11 with the Gazit Stone, the governor of New York would make a proclamation from the floor of Ground Zero. Listen to the words:
"Today, we, the heirs of that revolutionary spirit of defiance, lay this cornerstone..."7
"He used those exact words?"
"Those exact words."
"The same words...and the same act—the quarried stone and the spirit of defiance."
"Joined together."
"Unbelievable... the whole thing is so..."
"It is....but it happened. The ancient drama reenacted on Ground Zero."
"And what happened after," I asked, "after the stone was laid?"
"What happened after was especially striking. The rebuilding of Ground Zero had already become tangled in a continual stream
of controversy, confusion, obstacles, dissension, and conflict. Even after the stone was set in place, the tower's construction would be challenged, halted, redrawn, renamed, and reversed. The plans to rebuild Ground Zero would be frustrated for years. Eventually they would remove the stone from Ground Zero altogether."
"Strange," I said. "They removed the cornerstone, and after all those words."
"Strange and not so strange. The plans of ancient Israel to defiantly rebuild itself would likewise be frustrated. It would ultimately lead the nation to the point of destruction. The laying down of the Gazit Stone was one more link in a chain of judgment. The commentary goes on to reveal what it all leads to:
"It will turn its fallen bricks into massive stones that will not fail...it was to be followed with fearful penalty...to be pressed on every hand by its enemies... to be prepared for still impending miseries.8
"The defiance of God shuts out immeasurable good."9
"It's a replaying...it's all replaying itself, the whole thing. It's so.. uncanny. And they had no idea what they were doing."
"That they were reenacting the ancient prophecy? No. And yet they each ended up stepping into the ancient footsteps. It was a prophetic act, taking place according to the mystery."
"So what does it all portend for America's future?"
"If those who came to Ground Zero that day to issue their proclamations had realized what it all portended... they would have stayed home.".......
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AH! WOW! NOW THAT REALLY DOES SOUND LIKE THE PROPHECY OF ISAIAH 9 WAS COMING TO PASS AGAIN IN 2001 AND AFTER 9/11. ON THE SURFACE IT SOUNDS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE! MOST WOULD BE FOOLED BY WHAT YOU HAVE JUST READ. FALSE PROPHETS HAVE A WAY OF SOUNDING THINGS THAT APPEAR TO BE TRUTH, THAT IS WHY FALSE PROPHETS CAN DECEIVE THOUSANDS IF NOT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. THE FALSE PROPHET OF THE BOOK OF REVELATION WILL NOT ONLY SOUND AS IF HE IS FROM GOD, HE WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO DO MIRACLES.....ALL THAT WILL REALLY DECEIVE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
OKAY, TIME TO SMASH THE STONE.
FIRST, I'VE JUST SPENT TIME GOING THROUGH 1 AND 2 KINGS; 1 AND 2 CHRONICLES. THERE IS NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THE ASSYRIANS COMING AGAINST PART OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL IN 732 B.C. THE KJV BIBLE I HAVE GIVES THE DATE FOR EACH CHAPTER IN KINGS AND CHRONICLES. THERE IS NO DATE FOR 732 B.C. NOR ANY MENTION OF THE ASSYRIANS COMING AND TAKING CAPTIVE ANY PART OF ISRAEL IN AND AROUND 732 B.C. IT IS JUST NOT RECORDED IN THE BIBLE PERIOD!!
WHAT IS RECORDED IS THE FINAL DESTRUCTION AND DEPORTATION OF ISRAEL BY THE ASSYRIANS BACK TO THE HOMELAND OF THE ASSYRIAN EMPIRE IN 721 TO 718 B.C.
THE BIBLE DOES NOT RECORD ANY BRICKS OR BUILDINGS COMING DOWN, WHEN THE ASSYRIANS INVADED PART OF ISRAEL IN 732 B.C. AND TOOK SOME ISRAELITES BACK TO THE LAND OF ASSYRIA.
WE HAVE SEEN FROM BARNES' BIBLE COMMENTARY THAT THE PHRASE "THE BRICKS ARE FALLEN DOWN; WE SHALL REBUILD" COULD BE AS BARNES SAYS, "THE LANGUAGE OF THIS VERSE IS FIGURATIVE; BUT THE SENTIMENT IS PLAIN...." THERE IS NO RECORD IN THE BIBLE THAT ANY BRICKS IN REALITY EVER CAME DOWN IN ANY LITERL WAY, WHEN THE ASSYRIANS INVADED ISRAEL THE FIRST TIME, AND BARNES GIVES THE DATE AS 738 B.C NOT 732 B.C. BUT THAT EXACT DATE DOES NOT MATTER ANYWAY, FOR THE POINT WE ARE MAKING.
SO THE FIRST MISTAKE THE AUTHOR MAKES ON THIS SECTION HE IS EXPOUNDING, IS THAT THERE IS NO PROOF FROM THE BIBLE THAT ANY BRICKS IN REALITY EVER CAME DOWN IN ISRAEL AT THIS INVASION BY HER ENEMIES.
THE NEXT MISTAKE THE AUTHOR MAKES IS THAT IN THE HEBREW THE WORD FOR "BRICKS" IS PLURAL!! SO JAY P. GREEN RENDERS IT IN HIS HEBREW/ENGLISH RENDITION OF ISAIAH 9:10. AND ALSO THE WORD FOR "STONES" IN THE HEBREW IS IN THE PLURAL!!
WE ARE NOT TALKING HERE IN ISAIAH ABOUT ONE STONE BUT MANY STONES.
THEN DID YOU NOTICE IT? I PUT IT IN LARGE LETTERS FOR YOU TO NOTICE. THE AUTHOR SAID THE MASSIVE STONE AT GROUND ZERO IN NEW YORK WAS REMOVED!!!
HENCE IT DID IN NO WAY FULFILL THE PROPHECY OF ISAIAH 9:10. THERE IS NO REMOVING OF ANY STONES IN ISAIAH 9:10; IF ISAIAH 9:10 WAS EVER FULFILLED IN ANY LITERAL WAY.
ONCE MORE ANOTHER MISTAKE WAS EVEN IF ANY LEADER OF AMERICA USED IN ANY SPEECH ABOUT THAT MASSIVE STONE BEING PUT DOWN, ANYTHING THAT COULD BE CONNECTED WITH THE WORD "DEFIANCE" DOES NOT OF ITSELF PROVE THEY WERE BEING DEFIANT AGAINST GOD. I SUBMIT THE DEFIANCE IN ANY SPEECH REGARDING RE-BUILDING ANYTHING AT GROUND ZERO IN NEW YORK, WOULD BE A DEFIANT ATTITUDE AGAINST TERRORISTS. I HAVE DETECTED NO DEFIANT ATTITUDE AGAINST GOD IN ANY SPEECH BY ANY AMERICAN LEADER AFTER 9/11. FOR THE AUTHOR TO STATE SO IS SIMPLY PUTTING THOUGHTS INTO YOUR MIND, TO MAKE OUT ISAIAH 9:10 WAS A PROPHECY FORETOLD CENTURIES AGO ABOUT THE YEAR 2001 AND 9/11, WHEN IN FACT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.
IT IS QUITE NATURAL FOR LEADERS OF TOWNS OR STATES OR A COUNTRY, AFTER A TERRIBLE DISASTER, FROM SOME CARZY FANATICAL GROUP, TO BE DEFIANT AGAINST THAT GROUP, AND TO TELL THE PEOPLE OF THE NATION (AS IN THIS TWO TOWER DESTRUCTION) THAT THEY WOULD RE-BUILD AND SHOW DEFIANCE AGAINST THE MAD-MEN GROUP THAT BROUGHT ON THE DISASTER AND KILLING. AND TRUE TO THAT ATTITUDE AMERICA DID GO AFTER THE LEADERS OF THE TERRORIST GROUP, FINALLY KILLING BIN LADEN [THE MASTER MIND BEHIND IT ALL] AND OTHERS.
THE AUTHOR IN THIS SECTION OF HIS BOOK MAKES IT ALL SOUND VERY MUCH LIKE THE PROPHECY OF ISAIAH 9:10 WAS A REALITY OF 2001 AND 9/11, UNTIL YOU BREAK IT DOWN AND ANALYZE IT ALL IN FINE DETAIL. THEN YOU CAN SEE THE CLEVER CONFIGURATIONS HE HAD TO PUT IN YOUR MIND TO FOOL YOU IN BELIEVING YOUR READING A PROPHECY RE-ENACTED FROM THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO IN 2001. THE PROPHECY OF ISAIAH 9:10 HAS NOTHING REMOTELY TO DO WITH TWO TOWERS IN NEW YORK CITY CRASHING TO THE GROUND AND SOME HUGE STONE BEING PLANTED THERE (WHICH WAS EVENTUALLY REMOVED ANYWAY).
A VERY CLEVER TRY BY THIS FALSE PROPHET. BUT FALSE PROPHETS INSPIRED BY THE GREAT DECEIVER, ARE CLEVER AND CUNNING. INDEED THEY ARE, BUT NOW YOU KNOW THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER.
Keith Hunt
I think you are missing the larger value of the Harbinger. The point is that like Israel, American demonstrates no "brokenness." And thus, like Israel, American is in grave danger of sharing a fate of being absorbed into (or destroyed by) other nations, including its neighbors. The Harbinger, in this sense, is not even a prophetic work (as the word "prophecy" is commonly understood). It is not predicting anything specifically. It is simply issuing a general warning. And doing so quite effectively, as it pertains to Christian audiences (who bear more accountability in a nation's collapse than non-Christians because Christians are supposed to lead their nation in humility/repentance). The Harbinger uses a Biblical metaphor (and some undeniably interesting "coincidences") to state what secular historians and economists already know: when nations get too full of themselves, they invite (and fuel) their own demise. Pride goes before destruction. You can argue all day long about the semantics. Fine. But be careful lest you miss the forest for the trees!
ReplyDeleteOh . . . and for the record . . . the plan (as far as I understand it) is to return the stone to ground zero after the final plans for the Freedom Tower are completed. So, at the risk of drowning in the atom-by-atom semantics, Cahn's reference still has merit (in this one aspect, at least). I have not explored all of the others.
ReplyDeleteCahn uses the Bible to supposedly back up his ideas. I just prove he is wrong in using the Bible for such announcements. Now any serious Bible reading person can see VERY CLEARLY where America has left off serving God. We used to call ourselves a Christian nation. They still use the Bible at Presidential "official swearing in" times. I think they still use the Bible in Courts to "swear" the truth on. After the President gives a live official speech to Congress and the Nation, he ends with "God bless America." Now as stated any real Bible reading Christian can easily list all kinds of sins our nation practices; hence one day our punishment and fall. Cahn has ignored doing all that because he believes he's found a prophecy about 9/11. I just prove his book is from that stand..... WORTHLESS and FALSE! OH AND SO HIS NEXT BOOK ALSO..... will be worthless and false. You want to really know Bible prophecy..... go to my website [keithhunt.com]
ReplyDeleteI think without considering whether Isa 9 is prophetic to the USA or not it has some values when considered that the New Testament speaks of Jesus as the corner stone. When a building is erected there is usually a "corner stone" in the form of a plaque indicating the name of the person opening or at times the founder of the building. The Biblical New Birth is a type or rebuilding your life based on the right Corner Stone, Jesus our Lord and the Master Builder.
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